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    Im trying out a new club. All nights Ive worked were very slow but I still did OK.
    Last weekend I had been dancing with a customer all night long, literally.
    It was dance here, dance here, 1/2 and 1 hr vips. I would get up randomly, after excusing myself to make extra cash ( doing a round ) Anyway, were in the middle of a really deep conversation, we were discussing the possibility of imaginating something without eyesight. This girl literally SITS on his lap ( against club rules ) and tells him all this nasty shit. Like how she wants to get dirty in the VIP and how hell have more fun than with me. I just sat there, smiling patiently hoping and praying she woudnt succeed and the gentleman eventually said," I thought if someone was sitting with me you werent allowed to talk to me. TheWeirdOne and I were having a conversation and Id really like to finish it. You are very beautiful but I think Im going to decline." THANK GOD!!!! I was saved but what if he had gone with her? Should I report it to management and risk being a rat? What do you do? I am not an aggressive hustler, I can bring myself to do it. I never touch my customers or sit on laps or anything. I prefer the talking and engaging in conversation before dropping the wanna dance line. I cant be a bitch to the girls... I think they must know this.

    The following day, a gentleman payed me for a sit down fee. I went to the dressing room to get a mint and the one of the ladies asked me if I had taken all his money yet. I simply replied,"Not yet but he did pay for a sit down fee, I have to go back to him in a bit." There was another girl there and she ran to the customer and sat there, and didnt leave, for almost thirty minutes. WTF!!! Like hello let me go back to him, I can approach him if another girl is there but I was paid for my time. Finally, he signaled me to come over and sit next to him on the opposite side and said,"can you please ask her to leave?" I said I wouldnt do that because I didnt want trouble. So this girl continued to sit there and talk to him for another 20 minutes and wouldnt leave until luckily she got called onstage. I need advice. I dont want to be a bitch but I dont want to be attacked either or treated like an idiot because Im nice.

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    Default Re: stealing customers, how to deal?

    Well the guy sounds like he did exactly what he needed to do. Tell that girl to take a hike. I suggest for future reference to keep your money exchange private. Why some girl needed to ask you if you've taken any money yet is beyond me. Just smile and say nothing. It's no one's business. Guys will have to man up and tell girls to leave if they aren't interested in the nicest way possible. I think you did well to sit and wait until he did just that.

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    Never tell other girls what you got out of someone. It's none of their business. Also, if you have a good paying customer try not to leave unless you have to pee really bad or go on stage. I know he wanted you to stay, but girls sometimes don't take no for an answer or take a hint.

    As for the other girl, just tell management. Who cares if you look like a rat, she is fucking with your money. If management seems weak, tell the girl yourself the problem by the end of the shift.

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    I've even held my pee for a good customer before haha.

    No that's very rude how that first girl acted. You don't have to tell on a cut throat because they usually will make fools of themselves like she did with your customer. Now if she continues to do this to you I would suggest either confronting her off the floor or telling a manager.

    The customer who paid you to sit with him should be the one to tell the other girl to leave, not you. That's too awkward. I would've handled that situation by telling the customer "we can lose her if we go do a dance or vip" or something like that put in a flirtatious way. At least then you would be steering the conversation towards a solution rather than just waiting it out.

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    I can't be sure of this but I think it will get better with time, they're probably trying you out since you're new, once you have established yourself in the club I think you will have less problems. If it continues don't hesitate to speak to management!

    I also have to agree with the other girls about not telling anyone how much you've made and not leaving your paying costumer alone unless necessary...if you HAVE to leave him alone, hurry back!

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    GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL it is a jungle out there. If you had just slaughtered a fat delicious wild boar you wouldn't leave it lying unprotected in the woods to be eaten by all the wild predators while you go EAT A MINT. You would be protecting that mother fucker like your life depended on it.


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    ^^^ You should quote that in you signature HollyV.
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Default Re: stealing customers, how to deal?

    instead of going to manager, i like to mention issues to a good floor guy first. usually he'll be able to call a girl on stage or tell her he's "got a great table for her."

    and like everyone else said, keep your money private









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    What the other dancer did was extremely rude, but I don't really think its possible to 'steal customers'. From my experience, men will simply choose who they prefer, regardless of her sales tactic. It's just the nature of the business, and some people are less respectful than others, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly_V View Post
    GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL it is a jungle out there. If you had just slaughtered a fat delicious wild boar you wouldn't leave it lying unprotected in the woods to be eaten by all the wild predators while you go EAT A MINT. You would be protecting that mother fucker like your life depended on it.
    That is amazing fucking advice. I am now going to be thinking of all my customer's (or at least their wallets) as yummy fat delicious wild boars I have captured.

    But yeah, if a guy spends any money on you or pays attention to you without you initiating--focus on him until he is no longer spending on you and/or out the club door. Don't let the other cavewomen get him.

    A lot of guys are pussies when it comes to telling a girl no--even if she's not that cute or not his type. If it were a reverse universe and a sorta cute guy sat down on my lap making me feel like the hottest girl in the world...welll I'd probably have trouble getting him to leave too.

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    Some girls are blatant and would prob only respond to a very direct "You're interupting us" comment of your choice, others you can stare down or even say, "we haven't finished spending time together but we will let you know if we need another girl".

    Tell the manager, if he does nothing then take matters into your own hands, see if you can subtly drop that you are prepared to deal with the situation yourself if noone else will when you speak to the manager. None of this "i'm going to wreck her face" jazz... more along the lines of "I don't want to have to handle this myself when I know you can prob get her to drop this behaviour quick smart". I butter up my manager in terms of infering they are the authority but I will veil a threat about me 'handling' the situation my own way as well.
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWeirdOne View Post
    Im trying out a new club. All nights Ive worked were very slow but I still did OK.
    Last weekend I had been dancing with a customer all night long, literally.
    It was dance here, dance here, 1/2 and 1 hr vips. I would get up randomly, after excusing myself to make extra cash ( doing a round ) Anyway, were in the middle of a really deep conversation, we were discussing the possibility of imaginating something without eyesight. This girl literally SITS on his lap ( against club rules ) and tells him all this nasty shit. Like how she wants to get dirty in the VIP and how hell have more fun than with me. I just sat there, smiling patiently hoping and praying she woudnt succeed and the gentleman eventually said," I thought if someone was sitting with me you werent allowed to talk to me. TheWeirdOne and I were having a conversation and Id really like to finish it. You are very beautiful but I think Im going to decline." THANK GOD!!!! I was saved but what if he had gone with her? Should I report it to management and risk being a rat? What do you do? I am not an aggressive hustler, I can bring myself to do it. I never touch my customers or sit on laps or anything. I prefer the talking and engaging in conversation before dropping the wanna dance line. I cant be a bitch to the girls... I think they must know this.

    The following day, a gentleman payed me for a sit down fee. I went to the dressing room to get a mint and the one of the ladies asked me if I had taken all his money yet. I simply replied,"Not yet but he did pay for a sit down fee, I have to go back to him in a bit." There was another girl there and she ran to the customer and sat there, and didnt leave, for almost thirty minutes. WTF!!! Like hello let me go back to him, I can approach him if another girl is there but I was paid for my time. Finally, he signaled me to come over and sit next to him on the opposite side and said,"can you please ask her to leave?" I said I wouldnt do that because I didnt want trouble. So this girl continued to sit there and talk to him for another 20 minutes and wouldnt leave until luckily she got called onstage. I need advice. I dont want to be a bitch but I dont want to be attacked either or treated like an idiot because Im nice.
    1. I would not go to management and I would not confront the girl since you are new to the club. If he had decided to dances with her then it's not the end of the world, you had made money off him and if he was ready to spend money elsewhere the best you can do is sit with your hand on customer's knee so at least other girls won't sit on his lap.

    2. If a dude pays you, don't go get a mint.

    3. He didn't have the balls to make the girl leave and asked you to do it? Awkward. It might have been better to take him for a dance and just leave her behind.

    Overall, you don't need to be a bitch just stake your claim and use body language to tell other girls to fuck off.

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    I had smtg a bit like this happen tonite actually, and it is my first nite at a new club as well.

    The guy I was sitting with, the birthday boy of his group, was only paying attention to & tipping me, I'd been sitting with him for a time while one of his buddies went to tip each girl who was on a nearby side stage. Well, he got back from tipping one girl with the message that she wanted my customer to follow her to the nxt side stage, even tho she clearly saw me sitting with him. He took me with him across the room to her, I thought she just wanted to dance for him but instead she was full-out humping and grinding on him from the stage while trying to guess how old he was. She got on my nerves at this point but he took me with him back to his table and we chatted until I went onstage. He followed me to three of the four stages, but when I came back this same girl had planted herself in his lap.

    I sat down nxt to him and chatted with his friend, and when she saw me take my spot nxt to the guy she actually switched sides on his lap so her back was to me. This after she'd actually looked me in the eye when she was on the previous stage, before sending his buddy back to us w/ her message. At one point the guy actually leaned over and said to me, 'I don't know how the hell to make this girl leave!' I told him, 'If a guy wasn't interested in spending on me I'd want to know up front. If you don't like her then send her away.' Pussies indeed.

    I'd have to agree that established girls are going to try you b/c you're new; I think this is what was happening to me tonite but damn did it get under my skin. She didn't make trouble for me the rest of the nite, at least as far as I know, tho I was having a bit of a strike-out nite that I'm trying to chalk up to my newness. If she tries to make a habit of this sort of behaviour I would take Flickdreams' advice, just tread lightly since you are new to this club. I'm hoping that both you and I haven't just had the bad luck to pick cutthroat clubs.

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    I agree with so many comments so far. If I really feel like I need a mint, the customer is coming with me! When he goes to the bathroom is when I go to the bathroom. If I have to go on stage I will ask him to come with. I tell customer to say that they are waiting for me by name to other girls who come by. If someone grabs the custy while i'm away for a sec I blame myself.
    The [email protected]#$h who comes to sit with your custy while you are with him.... now that is another story. One that I have dealt with quite often. I say, "You can come back when we are done." But that line has about a zero percent chance of working for me.

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