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    I learned quickly on MFC that lowering countdown prices is no bueno. If my countdown is at 400 tokens and I have no takers- there will still be no takers when I cut it down to 300 tokens. That just means I have crap customers in the room, and that now people will think if they hang around long enough I'll lower my price. Now I know that if MFC is dead, I log the fuck off and come back later. There is nothing "discount" about my body, I'm fucking hot. I'm not running a bargain titty outlet.
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    I had a regular who came to see me for about a year. He wasn't spending a ton of money, but he came in frequently. I raised my price last year and he stopped coming to see me. He told me that he absolutely loved seeing me but couldn't afford me anymore, just wasn't willing to spend what I'm charging.

    Blocked

    Another guy did basically the same thing. Told me I'm charging too much, he's not going to pay it anymore, and I should do gold shows.

    Blocked

    That's how I handle regulars who have made it perfectly clear to me that they will NOT be paying what I'm charging.

    Next
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    ^^^ I have these too, but I would NEVER block them. I just say "awww... I know, babe, yeah.. Totally sucks that we won't be seeing as much of each other. I always had SO much fun with you, etc."

    90% of them do buy shows again, or at least piggyback into premium for a few mins here and there.

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    Unfortunately, these two had made it clear to me they wouldn't be spending and were basically harassing me daily about it. I don't regret my decision.

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    I would go up to $3.99 just to teach this bitch a lesson...

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    I think this thread has helped me sort out my feelings.

    It was rude, trashy, and plain bad ettiquette for him to bring up pricing. He got ONE show for that price and now he things she should get more? If your live porn habit is getting expensive, you get lower quality, or you quit. Or you suck it up and enjoy what you've gotten used to.

    Like when I smoked medical herbs. If I couldn't afford it I got the schwag, quit for a while, or went broke keeping my standards high. I wouldn't DARE ask a caregiver to lower their prices, even if they had a special that **one** time.

    So I've decided that I'm just not even dealing with his last comments. For him to bring up pricing twice in three days makes me think he needs to lower his standards, and I"m not lowering my quality therefore I'm not lowering my pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    Unfortunately, these two had made it clear to me they wouldn't be spending and were basically harassing me daily about it. I don't regret my decision.
    Oh I see. Well, if they were aggravating you about to the point where you weren't able to focus, then sure--- a block could certainly be reasonable.

    (I just did some fun math, and figured out that in alllll the time I have been camming, I've raised the price of my undivided attention by 653%. Wow. That was fun! So errr... Yeah. I've lost many regs over the years because they couldn't afford it anymore. C'est la vie.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtybekie View Post
    however there is one caveat to what i wrote earlier. if you were putting on a show, perhaps harnessing the power of adultwork tv, for a big group of ppl, (JCI supports 500 concurrent users) then in that situation you may want to have a lower price per minute, not becuase you're cheap but because that lower price X 50, 100, 250..... = a LOT of money :-)
    Have you ever tried that on AdultworkTv? I have. Didn't work. Attracted guys who were so broke they could only afford to stay 1 to 2 minutes. Waste of time.

    Works better for me to charge a decent price and take private shows.


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    I schedule shows on AW tv sometimes...I don't know if it's influenced guys to come into paid sessions or not (either group or private since they could just see me there and decide on private) but it's free advertising and that can't be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    I schedule shows on AW tv sometimes...I don't know if it's influenced guys to come into paid sessions or not (either group or private since they could just see me there and decide on private) but it's free advertising and that can't be bad.
    but are you doing what naughtybeckie suggested and lowering your price for it and getting tons of viewers at once?

    "in that situation you may want to have a lower price per minute, not becuase you're cheap but because that lower price X 50, 100, 250..... = a LOT of money :-)" -- naughtybekie

    I mean, it sounds good in theory but I doubt AW has that much traffic to consider lowering my price for a show like that. Didn't work for me at all.


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    Default Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)

    I'm not sure you can have that many in group. When I'm busy in freeview, it stops letting them in when there's 13 (15? can't remember) in the room. I've had guys emailing me saying they couldn't get in as the room was coming up as 'full'. Admittedly, I've never had that many in group, so I can't say for sure, but I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drearea View Post
    I"m not lowering my quality therefore I'm not lowering my pricing.
    there u go, ladies
    this is perfect!

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    AW does NOT have traffic to make 1 credit group shows worth it. Dont cheat yourself, or beat yourself ladies. You and I both know this.

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    never mind
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    Forget it
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    Quote Originally Posted by drearea View Post
    So, I just thought I'd post this because I'm super irked.

    I've been having a rough time on Streamate so I lowered my prices to $1.99 a minute from $2.99 a minute. It was only changed for maybe 3 hours and my income was MUCH LESS than when I had my prices higher.

    I have ONE regular. One. He comes in every day for a ten minute show.

    Today I get a message "Last night was fun, but Saturday's prices were better " from my regular.


    We train our customers. I have now shown my ONLY regular that I may not be worth what he pays, due to paying less at another time. Even though he's done over 50 shows with me at my regular rate, that ONE show at a lower rate has now changed the tone of our relationship.

    Do NOT LOWER YOUR PRICES IN DESPERATION. It will NOT help you and you may actually hinder you greatly.


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    I have experimented with $3.99, $4.49, $4.99 and $5.99.

    What I have found is I am more frustrated at $3.99 for two reasons. The first being I know I am worth more and when I do get shows in this range I feel cheapened and am not as willing to perform as cheerfully as I normally would. The second is I feel I get treated poorly in this price range. Something about the lower prices (for me) attracts a lower quality buyer. He seems more demanding, and more eager to try to completely disregard my limits and even attempts to strong arm me into doing things I am uncomfortable with. I don't believe they even read profiles in this price range. I think they are price comparison shopping with the assumption that none of us have self respect, therefore, he doesn't have respect for any of us. He usually leaves after 2 minutes or if you decline his request to fist your middle toe jam with a lollipop hanging out your ass. Then he leaves the 1 to 3 star rating because he spent his hard earned money on some bitch who took too long or didn't do what he asked or because the Moon was in Venus three weeks ago.

    The $4.49 to $4.99 range seems to be the most competitive range in respect that I believe most of the viewers have coming to expect this as an industry standard. I will always meet my weekly goal in this price range but as with any day, some days will be quieter than others.

    The $5.99 range gets less action but in the end the paychecks are bigger because my regulars will save up for it if they don't already have it. The guys that don't have it will frequently let me know "pay day is Tuesday", I can't wait to spend time with you!", and the guys that do have it usually don't have limits. At this price range I seem to be building a new following of guys that have no limits. This doesn't happen over night and the waiting can be stringent.

    To be honest, the $7.99 to $8.99 range is not an impossibility and I do an equal amount of sales between premium ($5.99) and exclusive ($7.99 to $8.99) but like I said, sometimes the time between shows is much longer but as a following is built the gaps between shows start to fill, especially if you are willing to experiment with gold shows.

    The biggest thing I notice is I usually do about the same number of shows no matter what the price. Some days are flat out dead and then there's days when it seems everybody BUT you is getting a show (which is when I tend to experiment with pricing). Lowering the price doesn't (for me) deliver a bus load of paying perverts, it only adds to my frustrations among all the other frustrations of being a performer in 2012.

    The bottom line really is this though, I make the most money when I am most receptive to making money. When I am tuned in and focused on my goal which is to remain sexy, cool, calm and collected even during the most stressful of times (this is my biggest issue as a performer), the paying members become like the receptive end of the magnet I am attempting to pull them in with. Attitude and aura is everything. I as a performer allow myself to stress myself out and to psych myself out all the time. This is usually around the time when it seems everyone but me is getting shows. It's because I'm self defeating during those moments. It's really more of a psychological game than a game of pricing.

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    Last nite I had another.. " Tell me why I should pick you"? Nothing pisses me off more than that! I tell them.. you shouldn't.. lol...find someone else!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    Last nite I had another.. " Tell me why I should pick you"? Nothing pisses me off more than that! I tell them.. you shouldn't.. lol...find someone else!...
    Sorry to the OP for the hijack but I wanted to respond to this post. "Tell me why I should pick you" strikes you the same way as, "tell me about your show" --- "what do you do in your show" and, "what are you wearing" strikes me. The voice in the back of my head says, "this isn't even Gold Show material I'm working with, he's looking for a tickler". I don't think price is even an issue with this guy, he's just not gonna pay. Which sucks because now that I am preconditioned to respond a certain way in freeloader mode, the guy who is new to the site and is genuinely interested in a show just got slammed by my stank ass attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    Sorry to the OP for the hijack but I wanted to respond to this post. "Tell me why I should pick you" strikes you the same way as, "tell me about your show" --- "what do you do in your show" and, "what are you wearing" strikes me. The voice in the back of my head says, "this isn't even Gold Show material I'm working with, he's looking for a tickler".
    I hate it when they type that, but sometimes its because they are following the instructions in the chat screen.

    "Welcome to my live chat room. Type in the box to ask about my show."

    I sooo want SM to remove that stupid thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I hate it when they type that, but sometimes its because they are following the instructions in the chat screen.

    "Welcome to my live chat room. Type in the box to ask about my show."

    I sooo want SM to remove that stupid thing.
    This is why I rarely speak a word in my chat room, which means all their questions to me go unanswered. I've really come to terms with the fact that men are NOT stupid. They like to pretend that they are so they have an excuse to talk to us by asking questions. If they want to know what my show is like they can scroll down to my profile which is right under the video screen.

    The way I figure it, if they are too stupid to read my profile they are also probably too stupid to know how to budget their money and are probably dead broke anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I hate it when they type that, but sometimes its because they are following the instructions in the chat screen.

    "Welcome to my live chat room. Type in the box to ask about my show."

    I sooo want SM to remove that stupid thing.
    I saw it and I remember cringing when I saw it and dismissed it for that reason. I mean, completely dismissed it as in get it out of sight and out of mind. Thank you for the reminder. I have a tendency to forget the cringe-worthy and try to live this bubble I created called cvargaland. If it doesn't fit my mental capacity no one is invited, including Streamate tag lines lol

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    yup been getting alot of those wankers lately too, i upped my pricing now since i just upgraded my pc. let's see how things go tonight.

    OP - thnx for this thread, what a dick he is! glad ur keeping ur stance on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblegumbitch View Post
    yup been getting alot of those wankers lately too, i upped my pricing now since i just upgraded my pc. let's see how things go tonight.

    OP - thnx for this thread, what a dick he is! glad ur keeping ur stance on him.
    Brutally quiet tonight but stick to your guns. We're worth it

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    I ran into this very same issue...ONE guy who I sort of considered a regular...didn't fully consider him one though since he doesn't buy a show all the time, maybe a few times a week at best...anyway, one day I was so flustered I lowered from 2.99 to 1.99 and BAM he suddenly wanted a cheaper rate and was "joking" about how my rate went back up when I put it back to normal. I really wish I didn't even THINK of lowering it. I actually noticed that when I initially did put it from 1.99 to 2.49 for the first time ever as a cam girl...I seemed to make a little more. Not a big difference but still noticeable!

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