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    I am getting to the point where I just want to buy short dresses and not even take them off at work...I am truthfully tired of all of the cheapness..I see it even w the 'top young girls'...I am so sick of people coming n and looking for virtually free..I feel like coming n once or twice a week to keep regs happy and getting the fuck out ..even w hugee boobs it really isnt mattering a whole lot..Even the top pole girls oftentimes rnt making crap..It has killed everyone's attitude including mine....I know this isnt the first time Ive complained of burn out...Just hate going into work and not enjoying what Im doing bc i dont feel the people n the bar should b overly judgmental and talking shit when they r barely dropping any money..I sure as f dont feel like putting any effort into my dancing whatsoever...There isnt really any answer except to barely work or get nto something new...

    I also feel like I shouldnt be bitching at the same time bc Im lucky to only work 2 hours a night then just go home..Its low hustle around here and sadly means the earnings rnt super high here..I just hate that I put effort nto maintaining but the avg bar customers dont feel the need to tip anymore..Makes me hate this industry.....Makes me feel like no one deserves to see my unclothed body..Gonna keep my short dress on...When I was younger I really didnt care or feel I needed to cover up now I know my worth and to me the shitty money is an insult..

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    Hugs.

    Sometimes I feel like my burnout is totally manageable but sometimes (last night, tonight, OK all summer) not so much. I can definitely relate to a lot of what you and Kisca posted. Maybe I should start a bitch about burnout thread.

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    ^ thank u guys for ur posts..yea the cheapos r all the time..every freakin time I go to work..its sad when once every 4 months i may have one night where people r tipping decently..I know we r supposed to go n with our best attitude but when it doesn't matter if we go nto work cursing the world or happy as hell the job is a complete and utter drag..And that is the norm now..I know that 50 or 100 bucks may be better than no job at all..but I dont even want to be wearing a bikini and shorts for the lack of money i see..id rather wear shorts and a t shirt or a short dress which is what im oftentimes doing..

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    I guess I am the minority w this issue

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    I wrote a longish post. don't know where it went, anyway the crux was i gotr fed up with the cheapo's persisited for a bit over a year in the end I didn't like the job anymore and quit. My problem was the club and change of managment which killed off the dance buying older guys and brought in the drinks buying younger guys. Going to another clubs wasn't an option for me, but maybe it is for you.

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    I wrote a longish post. don't know where it went, anyway the crux was i gotr fed up with the cheapo's persisited for a bit over a year in the end I didn't like the job anymore and quit. My problem was the club and change of managment which killed off the dance buying older guys and brought in the drinks buying younger guys. Going to another clubs wasn't an option for me, but maybe it is for you.
    I work for and am employed by most of the clubs n my area...I dont take bookings w several of them but the money is hard to come by..Even at the top clubs its rare to see a good money night where everyone is banking...So it doesnt matter a whole lot where I go..I plan on switching things up a little for next month where as at my main club Im only taking 1 booking..I used to do 3 a week and now its gone down to 1...Gonna start at one of my old clubs next month and Ill see how that goes..The tipping clientele just isnt there..I am just frustrated bc the bar clientele rarely tip me anymore these days...Its mostly only my regs who keep me going and looking at whats really going on I really dont make alot off the customers n the bar..WHich at times makes me think I have no business being at my two main bars..

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    I definitely feel you on this. Nightly, I see these guys tipping the waitress and bartenders for their drinks but can't drop a dollar on any of the dancers that have been providing them with 'free' eye candy for hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Maddalena View Post
    I definitely feel you on this. Nightly, I see these guys tipping the waitress and bartenders for their drinks but can't drop a dollar on any of the dancers that have been providing them with 'free' eye candy for hours.
    Yea Im sick of dancing for that reason..These assholes can come in buy drinks and sit around and talk shit about me all night..I quit one of my bars last night bc the regs r such complete shit talking pieces of shit..

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    Everyone has their nights, but my club is pretty decent. If you know a group of customers aren't tipping, put on a lazy show, don't get fully need (some clubs it's mandatory though), and don't give them any attention. That's what I do. Usually if a guy doesn't tip he's just a broke ass and rarely a shy guy. These are the guys who think the dancers are stuck up bitches for ignoring them - like who is really gonna waste their time. You have your good and bad nights.

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    ^Whats happening is that almost every night the 'bar customers' are hardly tipping me at all...Its my regs that keep me n this business at all at this point...I havent seen things this bad since right after 9/11..And it isnt just me..A very skinny (opposite of me) Im more curvy w huge boobs lol--friend of mine only made $5 the other night!! It isnt just that Im too old as I feel sometimes..Its that for me personally at some bars the customers like me more than at others..I just did away with a bar where I felt like the customers mostly hated me..Too many bitchy hateful girls there..And wasnt worth my time when at my home bar I at least have earned the respect I more than deserve.

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    You have to work in a place where you are vibing with the guys and they are vibing with you. It's like pulling teeth otherwise. I worked in a club with the same kind of guys I would actually hang out with in real life. So, it was easy to flirt and chill out talking with them. Try some other spots. Think about relocation. Better to bank somewhere new than starve somewhere familiar.
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    You have to work in a place where you are vibing with the guys and they are vibing with you. It's like pulling teeth otherwise. I worked in a club with the same kind of guys I would actually hang out with in real life. So, it was easy to flirt and chill out talking with them. Try some other spots. Think about relocation. Better to bank somewhere new than starve somewhere familiar.
    Thank u for ur post...yea I have thought about traveling a little..In this part of Va there are alot of cheap military guys, rednecks, and ghetto thugs...Not exactly the area that attracts the high rollers..I barely ever see them and even when I do they barely tip the girls anymore..I have been here for well over a decade and this place just depresses me..This is a very conservative area..The only times I really see the clubs packed r late night weekends and even then Ive seen guys be cheapskates..Even n the bigger well known clubs n the area w the hottest girls..A few weekends ago I was hanging out n the one main chain club n this area..At all of the 4-5 clubs customers were hardly tipping..And this was late night on a Sat night! This area has just gone to shit when it comes to Scs imho..Girls have gotten used to less and I still haven't..go figure..Feel like Id be better off waitressing than dancing in the right bar..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift_6x View Post
    Thank u for ur post...yea I have thought about traveling a little..In this part of Va there are alot of cheap military guys, rednecks, and ghetto thugs...Not exactly the area that attracts the high rollers..I barely ever see them and even when I do they barely tip the girls anymore..I have been here for well over a decade and this place just depresses me..This is a very conservative area..The only times I really see the clubs packed r late night weekends and even then Ive seen guys be cheapskates..Even n the bigger well known clubs n the area w the hottest girls..A few weekends ago I was hanging out n the one main chain club n this area..At all of the 4-5 clubs customers were hardly tipping..And this was late night on a Sat night! This area has just gone to shit when it comes to Scs imho..Girls have gotten used to less and I still haven't..go figure..Feel like Id be better off waitressing than dancing in the right bar..
    But you know what "the hottest girls" mean in the Hampton Roads area; 5'3" or below, no ass, and no boobs unless it's Cheetah's where they like all shapes and sizes...literally.





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    But you know what "the hottest girls" mean in the Hampton Roads area; 5'3" or below, no ass, and no boobs unless it's Cheetah's where they like all shapes and sizes...literally.
    I am 5'4" and oftentimes the few taller girls who r skinnier and younger than me r getting tipped...Im more curvy and petite w huge boobs...Ive been to Cheetahs actually like to hang out n there for a drink sometimes...I was just worried that that club wouldnt be safe..Also heard that some bad activities that I cant mention on SW go on there..Just didnt want to be unsafe there....What was ur experience there?

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    I am 5'4" and oftentimes the few taller girls who r skinnier and younger than me r getting tipped...Im more curvy and petite w huge boobs...Ive been to Cheetahs actually like to hang out n there for a drink sometimes...I was just worried that that club wouldnt be safe..Also heard that some bad activities that I cant mention on SW go on there..Just didnt want to be unsafe there....What was ur experience there?
    I thought it was kinda fun, but in terms of earning it could be very hit or miss; I had left the club with less than five bucks, but with more than 300 the next day. They have a jukebox. Many dancers love hip hop. Some girls like to flash their goodies, but at the end of the shift you are ALWAYS escorted to your car and/or cab by one of the dudes who work at the club (one of them, Jersey, is kinda douchebag and he likes to seduce the new dancers, but the owner's son, Tommy, is cool, and JP, an ex navy guy, is cool too). Some girls were great, some others weren't that awesome. Some girls are amazing dancers (either on the floor or pole), others just flash the kitty and that's it. That was the first club I regularly danced at in the Hampton Roads area. They have EVERYTHING, in terms of dancers; chubby girls, scrawny girls, curvy girls, short girls, tall girls, black, mulatto, Asian, blondes...and I loved that. It was one of my favorites in the area; my other favorites were the Headlights in Elizabeth City, and the Junction in NN. In Virginia I preferred the RVA area, though; the commute was like 82 miles, but the money was sooooooo much better.
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    I thought it was kinda fun, but in terms of earning it could be very hit or miss; I had left the club with less than five bucks, but with more than 300 the next day. They have a jukebox. Many dancers love hip hop. Some girls like to flash their goodies, but at the end of the shift you are ALWAYS escorted to your car and/or cab by one of the dudes who work at the club (one of them, Jersey, is kinda douchebag and he likes to seduce the new dancers, but the owner's son, Tommy, is cool, and JP, an ex navy guy, is cool too). Some girls were great, some others weren't that awesome. Some girls are amazing dancers (either on the floor or pole), others just flash the kitty and that's it. That was the first club I regularly danced at in the Hampton Roads area. They have EVERYTHING, in terms of dancers; chubby girls, scrawny girls, curvy girls, short girls, tall girls, black, mulatto, Asian, blondes...and I loved that. It was one of my favorites in the area; my other favorites were the Headlights in Elizabeth City, and the Junction in NN. In Virginia I preferred the RVA area, though; the commute was like 82 miles, but the money was sooooooo much better.
    yea idk about the whole flashing thing at cheetahs.. In Richmond how much were u making per night? And how long ago? I used to work there but the money started sucking a long time ago up there for me and I stopped..I am one of the snobbier dancers so sometimes guys rnt looking to get away w more and dont find that w me

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    yea idk about the whole flashing thing at cheetahs.. In Richmond how much were u making per night? And how long ago? I used to work there but the money started sucking a long time ago up there for me and I stopped..I am one of the snobbier dancers so sometimes guys rnt looking to get away w more and dont find that w me
    In Cheetah's I didn't show anything because I had the mentality of "do I look like the kind of girl that would flash her kitty for ten bucks?", but that was just me; I tried to be more a playful tease than a snob dancer. You can give it a try for a few weeks. If you don't like it, then go to RVA. I danced in Richmond last summer, until September 2011, and on weekdays I'd leave with around 110-245 AFTER paying the fees and the DJ (clubs in RVA are stage/lap dance; you wear thong and flesh color pasties), a slow weekend was like 200, and a good one was 400 or more, so making around 1100 a week was very doable. You can try the two Paper Moon clubs (they are big on blondes/big tits, especially the one in Downtown), Pure Pleasure, or Club Rouge; those are the ones with the most money making potential, at least for your physique. Last summer, Candy Bar also had great money making potential, well, at least it was for me 'cause it was a mixed club, but in September it changed to an Urban format and I stopped making money (I don't do good on that type of club); Daddy's Rabbit and The Endzone down in Hopewell are Urban Clubs, but they are also owned by the dudes who own Candy Bar, Pure Pleasure and Club Rouge. Those two guys also own an afterhours clubs on Broad st., the club is called ODC, where you can make even more money.





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    I think if I had stayed dancing in RVA during fall and winter I would had made soooo much more.





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    ^^An afterhours stripclub n rva?

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    Not really a stripclub, more of a gogo bar; the attire was just a bikini like the ones you'd wear in most HR clubs, no thong/pasties. It has two satellite stages and you can give no contact couch dances.





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    So the club opens at 2/3am and u can dance in a bikini top and shorts and make good money? OdC?

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    So the club opens at 2/3am and u can dance in a bikini top and shorts and make good money? OdC?
    Yes. The money can be good sometimes; sometimes I relied on it as gas money to go back to the HR area, some other times I was enough to pay my car insurance for that month.

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    Yes. The money can be good sometimes; sometimes I relied on it as gas money to go back to the HR area, some other times I was enough to pay my car insurance for that month.

    Sorry for taking too long. I had been a bit away from the internet.
    Maybe I am misreading your post, but gas money and insurance money doesn't sound like much money to me...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift_6x View Post
    Maybe I am misreading your post, but gas money and insurance money doesn't sound like much money to me...???
    It was more than in any HR bikini two hour shift club.





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