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    After a brief hiatus, my ATF dancer is back dancing at the SC. After our lap dances, she asked when we were planning to go out for dinner (I had asked her out for dinner a couple of months back). I would like to keep it as formal as possible and prefer not to consider it a 'dinner date.' It is simply something on my bucket list of things to do. And to get the ball rolling, I have no issue with paying for her time. I know what she makes in tips and lap dances during a slow, moderately busy, and busy night. The question I have is what is a reasonable rate ( based on what she makes) for spending two or more hours with her for dinner besides me paying for dinner of course. I don't think she has any expectations though, but I prefer to make it transactional at this time.
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    I know what she makes in tips and lap dances during a slow, moderately busy, and busy night.
    I doubt that. You can only assume what she makes... unless you are her accountant.

    That being said, the rate you agree upon is dependent on how comfortable the two of you are... how important this idea is to you... and what amount she'll go for.

    I would advocate offering a very generous number.... A good starting point could be your concept of her best-case-scenario-amazingly-busy-night x2 or x3.

    That seems fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think! View Post
    . The question I have is what is a reasonable rate ( based on what she makes) for spending two or more hours with her for dinner besides me paying for dinner of course. I don't think she has any expectations though, but I prefer to make it transactional at this time.
    Is there really any other way??

    Regarding rate it's probably best to ask her what she would like and go from there.

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    Ask her.....I have had ladies merely want a decent meal before they worked their shift and didn't expect anything (got annoyed when I offered to compensate) and have had others that wanted some compensation for their time. Considering that her best-case -scenario-amazing-busy-night might be $1,000 I really don't think 2-3 times that for dinner would be realistic..... yet I am not the one whose time it is. If you are concerned that she might think you expect more than dinner, then make arrangements for dinner immediately before her shift...then go in and spend. Repeat......ask her.

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    If it was her suggestion, I would not ask or offer. She will bring it up if it is important to her. If she doesn't and you feel compelled to compensate her, I suggest spending more in the club. As suggested above, go to dinner just before her shift, then go in and spend. You may even offend her if you offer.

    I have been having dinner infrequently with a fav for the past 6-8 months. It was her suggestion and she hasn't mentioned money for her time; I am sure not going to offer it if she doesn't ask. We both know that it isn't a "date." What's in it for her? She is cultivating a loyal customer, she gets a free dinner, and - according to her - she enjoys spending time together. My time is valuable too. I am more than willing to splurge for dinner, but that's all. Now, if I were begging her to have dinner with me, my perspective might change.

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    How much do you normally spend when you see her in the club? And how much time are you paying for (I'm assuming you visit VIP)? That might help us give you a better gauge.

    For instance, VIP at a club I know in Miami is 3 times cheaper than one in L.A. and half as cheap as one in Vegas... it's all sorta relative... if she's even expecting payment. And sad to say, if the dinner even happens. Though if you offer to pay, it may make the dinner more likely.

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    There are a lot of ways to go with this. Is she taking a night off from work to join you for dinner or is it a scheduled day off. If you want to keep it as business-like as possible I would think along the lines of what two hours of her time in V.I.P. would be worth. In any event, I think you really need to discuss this with her. Her expectations may be different than yours and there is even an outside chance that you could offend her by offering her money. She may think that you are expecting sex.

    As a rule I don't pay for OTC "face time" though I have paid for OTC sexual encounters. Not the same thing of course as just going out for dinner but, be that as it may, anytime there is going to be money involved it's always best to get the details hammered out before hand so as to avoid confsion, anger or hurt feelings later.
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    Default Re: Dinner with My ATF Dancer

    As for rate, a good suggestion is her club's hourly VIP rate.

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    Default Re: Dinner with My ATF Dancer

    I doubt she would be offended by the offer of compensation for time spent outside of the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocrity View Post
    As for rate, a good suggestion is her club's hourly VIP rate.
    ^ This.

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    My advice is to find out what the nature of this meeting is all going to be all about and make sure you are on the same page. Personally, I would not pay someone for "face time". I noeven patronize the SCs but when I did I would only ask someone to socialize away from the club if i was interested in taking the friendship outside the club and . This happened with several girls after I'd known them for a long time because the dancer-customer thing stopped working for us.

    I was asked to spend some time outside the club by a dancer several years ago. We lived in adjacent neighborhoods 75 miles from the club in which I met her. She was never on any list of favorites I might have compiled but she approached me and I accepted her invite. It never occurred to me she was doing this figuring to get paid. She said she wanted to make the rounds of Providence clubs but had no one with whom to do that. This seemed plausible enough at the time. We met at and I treated her to a nice upscale dinner ($100 tab or so) at the mall, she asked if I wanted to buy her a "little gift" (it was Christmas week). I thought "OK, no big deal". She then made a beeline to Nordstrom's and started looking at $400 purses. I told her I wasn't going to buy her a $400 gift an hour and a half into our first date. At this point, the only thing personal I knew about her was her real first name and the fact she lived a mile or 2 from me. Consequently the date ended very shortly thereafter. We later talked and agreed we weren't on the same page that night. I guess the lesson to be learned is to know exactly what the expectations are beforehand. I treated it like a real date as in one in which my date was not being paid.

    I have also had the opposite side of the coin happen where I went to dinner with dancers who not only weren't looking for compensation, they insisted on paying for themselves, and in a few cases insisted on paying the tab for both of us. So you never know.

    And you might want to consider the possibility that she is just dangling dinner possibilities in front of you just to reel you back in as a regular. That tactic is a fairly common strategy dancers use to keep guys coming to see them and spending money.
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    another double post.
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    I have offerred 3 dancers to share a meal before or after their shift. I let them know that the meal is on me, but I do not pay people to eat with me. None accepted at the time. I never brought it up again. 2 of the 3 suggested dinners at a later times. I enjoyed several meals with each of them. I did not pay them for their time. But i behaved as a friend: no touching, sexual comments, etc. The meals were when they knew what type of customer I was (not a reguler in love).

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