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    Thumbs up drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    The title pretty much says it all. Portugal decriminalized possession of ALL drugs 11 years ago, and now the rate of addiction has been halved.

    Oh, also a drop on overdosing rates and STDs related to drug use.

    Shocking, that handling drug use in a more reasonable fashion would actually have positive results.

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...rtugal-addicts
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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    Now, why would that be?

    People trying them legally (not getting in trouble) and finding they don't like them?
    People not having to get up the nerve to do something illegal?
    People getting enough of them finally realizing they are bad news in the long run?
    Hard core drug users initially overdosing and so are now out of the picture (dead)?

    For me, I doubt this applies to hard core drug users or serious 'casual' users. They are in a world of their own, and laws are only an annoyance, not a hindrance.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    I support this 100%. The USA's "war on drugs" is a joke. I like how a lot of countries are working more towards harm reduction rather than total abolition.

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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    The most important thing that should be mentioned is that if you are found with drugs, you get TREATMENT! Here in the states, a month of inpatient can be around 20k a month! It's not a system designed to truly help anyone. Mandatory free treatment, this is how you keep your citizens healthy and fix the drug problem. Would you rather your taxes go to incarcerating millions of pot heads, or giving help and getting real addicts off drugs?


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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    I guess taxes will go up since all these addicts got therapy?
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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    ^^taxes paid for therapy but didnt pay to put them in jail then keep them in jail.

    think about it... therapy might take a yr? vs incarcerating someone for 5+ yrs? And its done on a case by case basis, so those who are not so addicted would not spend much time in therapy.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    Even if the US decriminalizes drugs...what will the results be in places like Mexico that are corrupt with towns run by violent drug lords? Would it make that situation worse or better? People are walking and hitching rides atop of cargo trains for months to enter the US and live here to only make $5 an hour for a reason.

    Shit is fucked up down there and it is due to the US high demand for narcotics.

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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    The War On Drugs has been a complete failure.

    And sadly, one of it's unintended consequences is that it has been devastating and proportionally very unfair to the Black community.

    Anyone who thinks that the US prison-incarceration status is a plus to society, is crazy. And now there is a "Prison Industry" with lobbyists and it will be hard to downsize, let alone completely change.

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    Default Re: drug decriminalization in Portugal decreases number of addicts

    The current system is illogical and stuffs prisons full of the wrong people and doesn't really correct anything .
    The US 'war on drugs' is very misplaced. Casual users (possession) should be excused if they provide info on their dealers. Addicts should be required get into a monitored treatment program and either incarcerated or to give info on their dealers. Dealers should face a mandatory prison time (at least a year), depending on how much they have been selling and if they have been selling to the under-aged (less than 1. Suppliers of dealers should get a mandatory prison sentence of at least 5 years, depending on their other crimes amount of sales, and duration in the business, and maybe less total time if they give info on their suppliers. Producers should get lengthy prison sentences, depending on what drugs they have produced and how long they have been in the business. NO REDUCED BARGAINED SENTENCES other than what I've outlined. And then probation for the same length of sentence if they ever get out. For casual users, probation for at least two years depending on their cooperation.
    Providing this info needs to be protected, especially for users only -- that is all users are given the same info deal and the info is used only after a length of time where no direct connection can be made to them. If all convicted users are given that info deal, their dealers will only see their business as a lot more hazardous than before.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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