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    How do you differentiate a pimp from an agency?

    How would you spot them in the Backpage ads? Or even, where does the line blur between even working for an agency, versus a pimp?

    A friend who's also in the industry applied for a BP agency ad, which looked quite professional. However, the "hiring" process thereafter was totally unprofessional. She was basically texted by the "agency" owner (practically in ebonics, very unprofessional writing style) and offered to take her to clients right that night. When she asked questions to feel out the situation and requested meeting somewhere in public beforehand to go over things properly, the "agency" owner accused her of being LE and said that "she" only wanted to hire "$$$$ makerz".

    To me, that seems like that was either a LE setup itself, or a pimp.

    When applying to agencies, how can you tell if it's actually a pimp you're talking to, and not a "legit" agency?

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    You can't actually some agencies might protest they don't want to be called pimps and call themselves agents, there is agencies who boost how proffessional they are for thier business but when there is an issue that arises with you and them they want to throw you out the door as fast as you came in.

    There is one outcall agency in my city who has a mission to harrass me even though I haven't been with that agency for over 4 years.
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    You can't actually some agencies might protest they don't want to be called pimps and call themselves agents, there is agencies who boost how proffessional they are for thier business but when there is an issue that arises with you and them they want to throw you out the door as fast as you came in.

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    If I were looking for a position with an agency I'd probably skip BP. A lot of text is stolen from ads in other cities because the poster is too lazy/dumb to write their own. I like the idea of finding potential agencies on Eros Guide or any other legitimate directory. You can see how they advertise their escorts (professional pics, well written bios), plus you'll have access to the agency name and phone number so you can research their reviews prior to applying. Most agencies are always hiring, provided you fit the "look" they desire.

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    Another thing to watch out for on BP - the marketing "agencies" based in other cities that advertise themselves as representing many well established reputable providers. When I was trying to find info on the business and looking for agencies, I came across an agency that had a nice looking professional website that said it provided screening/scheduling/marketing for companions that wish to work as independents, but want someone else to do the administrative work. Because they seemed legit, I sent them my photos and they sent me an info package on how they work and websites of providers they support. They said they do a small website for you, and it's 70/30 split. I looked at the companions that they supposedly worked for, and was impressed - then it occurred to me that I should email some of these ladies to see if their services were worthwhile.

    I'll give you one guess what happened after that - ALL of the providers they listed that I reached out to had either no clue who the hell these people were, or, had only had very brief interaction with them, maybe asking for a quote at some point a few years ago. NOT clients of theirs. The ladies have demanded they remove their sites from there, yet they continue to keep them up.

    Some reputable agencies around my area do advertise on BP occasionally when they need people, but the advice on looking on eros under agencies for your area is much better. There are just too many shady people on BP, waiting to take advantage of newbies and the naive.

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    I applied to 2 " booking agencies" off Backpage.

    The first one was ran by a guy, who sounded "urban". I proceeded to try to tell him my concerns like screening and scheduling and he told me "You need to be quiet, Ma, and let me talk. You aint going to get nowhere if you dont listen to me". I told him "Thank you for revealing yourself to be ghetto trash before I wasted my time. Take care"

    The second one was ran by another "urban" sounding guy told me I had to prove I wasnt LE (AKA "audition). GTFOOH. I told him, I would pay for a background check if he needed to me but I refused to "audition". He said he had to make sure I knew what I was doing because he knows what his clients expect. I told him "You must think I fell off a fuckin turnip truck?! You dont have a website or any way to prove you're a legitimate agency but Im supposed to trust you and fuck you---for free?!"

    Whats up with all these hood guys trying to be pimps?! I guess if basketball and rapping dont get you up out of the hood, selling ass is the next best thing. Ugh!

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    It's amazing the range of dirtbags on BP. You've got everything from the Ice T wannabes, to the "we're professionals" scammers.

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    ^ Actually when I was interesting in clean escorting lol yeah I didn't know what escorts really did. I contacted a guy off of clist when they had an adult section and met with him. He was umm "urban". Was trying to get me over to his "spot". I met him in a parking lot of a well lit convenience store because he just sounded scary. Said I needed a pre-test date. I actually thought that I was going to be required to dress up , know what forks to use and how to hold a conversation. WTF was I thinking?? Totally fucking clueless. So yeah he slipped out and said baby I'm a pimp and when he saw the look on my face he was said " nah I'm just kidding, I'm a manager". Guy was gross looking like he hadn't bathed in a month. I told him thanks for the offer that I would think about it. He said look if you think I'm too ugly to fuck then you will not make it because most of the other guys are uglier than me. So I drove off seriously grossed out.

    Then the guy kept fucking texting me like ooh I need a girl like you, you going to invite your "manager" over to be in your area. I was thinking wtf is this? Even if someone decides to do this job why does he feel the need to be in their personal space. The guy even said that I could hand out business card at events in my area. "I need a girl like you because you where the money at". HAA this guy just had no class was ghetto garbage.

    Then he was dumb enough to send me naked pictures of this 18 year old he pre-tested . I was like wtf?? Why is this dumb fuck sending me naked pictures of some random girl. It's like did he really think I want to see who had to fuck his ugly ass for free? Guy didn't know where to get off. Tried to say I can "loan you money". I was like no thanks , I already knew this was one of those guys that if you got involved with he would try to infiltrate every part of your life. Then he contacts me again telling me that the girl is "catching feelins because I put that good dick on her". So selling me on how great sex would be with him?? Another dumb guy. I was like wow you don't say... hope that all works out.

    Then a few weeks later he contacted me again with " wut cha doin" So I texted him back .. "Who the fuck is this calling my girl!! Motherfucker you fucking my bitch??" That's when it stopped hahaah lol!!! The only way to get rid of a loser is to pretend that you're fucking one

    That guy really scared the shit out of me. I mean to think I was told that I would have to sleep with him or his friends for free and also he seemed to want me to be his gf. His split I think was 60 you 40 him but he wanted a woman that would stay in a hotel all day. Take half hour guys and was bringing up how many soccer moms were escorts where most wouldn't even expect it. Ohh also he wanted to tell me what I should price myself at. Saying $500 an hour would only get me a few clients so he's going to put me at $300. . Also he had some connection with a hotel that was in on his operation.

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    These pimps out here are ridiculous. When I first decided I was going to do FBSM, I didnt know how to get clients and market myself (until I found this site :-)) so I had contacted some parlors and massage agencies.

    Well one night I spoke to this guy and sent him pics. I told him I was NOT going to provide sex with any of the clients and he was like "Oh, you aint gotta do that. If you open doing prostate massages though, you will make more. You just massage, though. I will market you and have a driver for you. You sexy as shit and will make "mad".(this should have been my first clue)." So Im thinking cool. So I told him I wouldnt be able to meet him in the hotel he was interviewing from that day but he could call me when he can reschedule. So the next couple of days I did some research and decided to go out on my own. The dude kept calling me but I didnt pick up. I felt that since he was so successful as he claimed, I wouldnt make any difference. Then I started getting strange calls from numbers I didnt recognize. I definitely dont answer strange numbers. But eventually the calls stopped.

    Then about 2 months later, I get a text from the guy again saying, "You fucking slut bitch, you could have making $1400 a day. Stupid spic ho."...Im thinking "OMG, he sounded so normal over the phone. This MF was trying to pimp me!" A damn massage pimp...wtf?

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    Yeah this one agency STILL has my pictures on their site like I work for them 2 years later and ignore me when I ask to take them down. I *thought* they were upscale but I quit after a week because I had more problems with bs clients in the week I worked for them than the almost 3 years I've been working indy. This one has hiring ads on BP and Eros but I agree your chances of finding a decent agency are better with Eros. I would also check the blacklist sites to see if they're on there...wish I had done that with this one because several girls had already written stuff about them! =/


    Quote Originally Posted by littlemissbliss View Post
    Another thing to watch out for on BP - the marketing "agencies" based in other cities that advertise themselves as representing many well established reputable providers. When I was trying to find info on the business and looking for agencies, I came across an agency that had a nice looking professional website that said it provided screening/scheduling/marketing for companions that wish to work as independents, but want someone else to do the administrative work. Because they seemed legit, I sent them my photos and they sent me an info package on how they work and websites of providers they support. They said they do a small website for you, and it's 70/30 split. I looked at the companions that they supposedly worked for, and was impressed - then it occurred to me that I should email some of these ladies to see if their services were worthwhile.

    I'll give you one guess what happened after that - ALL of the providers they listed that I reached out to had either no clue who the hell these people were, or, had only had very brief interaction with them, maybe asking for a quote at some point a few years ago. NOT clients of theirs. The ladies have demanded they remove their sites from there, yet they continue to keep them up.

    Some reputable agencies around my area do advertise on BP occasionally when they need people, but the advice on looking on eros under agencies for your area is much better. There are just too many shady people on BP, waiting to take advantage of newbies and the naive.
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    The place I work with does not advertise for ladies on BP nor will they contact with any of the ladies who do. They never contact by text and only meet with ladies at their office during daytime or early evening hours, not at hotels or convience stores. You should never be asked to audition. Eros is definately a good place to look and get referrals.

    Sounds like you ladies have had some scary situations.

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    It's really sad that some of you can't tell the difference between an agency and a pimp. If you notice I've tried to stay out of this thread. Threads like this make me smh. Why not do some studying? I have to disagree and agree with Nikki's "don't look for an agency on bp". Legit agencies like aphrodite, lpda and indigirls look for girls there. My recommendation will be sexyjobs.com. Look for agencies there. They are well known and reputable (for the most part). I have known of one or two pimp like organizations advertising on sexy jobs but one of them was recently put in prison for human trafficking. Be careful. Use common sense and you'll find a good agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    It's really sad that some of you can't tell the difference between an agency and a pimp. If you notice I've tried to stay out of this thread. Threads like this make me smh.
    Why is it sad? Finding a legit agency may be common sense for you, but a lot of newbies are still learning the ropes, hence the need for this forum. The only stupid question is the one left unasked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    I have to disagree and agree with Nikki's "don't look for an agency on bp". Legit agencies like aphrodite, lpda and indigirls look for girls there.
    True, but that doesn't apply everywhere. I live in a major city and here BP is full of low budget, fly-by-night agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkidarling View Post
    Why is it sad? Finding a legit agency may be common sense for you, but a lot of newbies are still learning the ropes, hence the need for this forum. The only stupid question is the one left unasked.
    When I started escorting there wasn't a forum to tell me what to do and what not to do. In fact, the information on sw on that time was outdated and the only source for info we had was minnie. No one told me what to look for when I found the agency I worked for. The agency I went with had a professional website, they asked to interview me, they made sure my pictures were real , were registered in the state of NC, asked for my ss number and issued 1099s at the end of the year so I figured they weren't a fly by night. Also they took up the most expensive advertising spaces in the escort directories for my area. I knew I'd make money with them. They catered to clients not hobbyists.. they weren't reviewed on any boards. I was able to find an agency without any good info online telling me what to look for. Today this topic has been discussed over and over again and STIL no one knows the difference between an agency and a pimp so I find it a little sad. Just my opinion. Sorry I don't agree with spoonfeeding. What's next? Post a thread on how to give a good bbbj? Hand holding doesn't help anyone it's not like we're going to be there when they get their first client. Experience is the best teacher.

    I do agree that one should ask questions about specific agencies. They're all different.

    True, but that doesn't apply everywhere. I live in a major city and here BP is full of low budget, fly-by-night agencies.
    I am friends with agency owners that refuse to post their agencies outright on bp due to law enforcement. Don't ask me why - I have no clue how that tactic saves me. These agency owners post on backpage without revealing their agencies to the public. I've been told this is a way to weed out the crazies. While I do think there are a lot of fly by night agencies on bp, I still do believe that it's a great place too look. In fact, I found the "vip" agency I worked for years ago on backpage and it was a joy working for them ....until the disagreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    When I started escorting there wasn't a forum to tell me what to do and what not to do. In fact, the information on sw on that time was outdated and the only source for info we had was minnie. No one told me what to look for when I found the agency I worked for. The agency I went with had a professional website, they asked to interview me, they made sure my pictures were real , were registered in the state of NC, asked for my ss number and issued 1099s at the end of the year so I figured they weren't a fly by night. Also they took up the most expensive advertising spaces in the escort directories for my area. I knew I'd make money with them. They catered to clients not hobbyists.. they weren't reviewed on any boards. I was able to find an agency without any good info online telling me what to look for. Today this topic has been discussed over and over again and STIL no one knows the difference between an agency and a pimp so I find it a little sad. Just my opinion.
    I'm glad you were able to find all this information on your own and come across a legitmate agency right away, but everyone is different. I don't believe ignorance equals laziness. You're being overly harsh. All of us were newbies at some point in time. Let's not pretend Escorting 101 is something learned in grade school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    Sorry I don't agree with spoonfeeding. What's next? Post a thread on how to give a good bbbj? Hand holding doesn't help anyone it's not like we're going to be there when they get their first client. Experience is the best teacher.
    You say experience is the best teacher, but a lack of experience can get an escort arrested, robbed or killed. That's why I don't mind what you call "spoonfeeding." We're always stressing safety in this forum, right? Answering a so-called dumb question can help save another member's life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    I am friends with agency owners that refuse to post their agencies outright on bp due to law enforcement. Don't ask me why - I have no clue how that tactic saves me. These agency owners post on backpage without revealing their agencies to the public. I've been told this is a way to weed out the crazies. While I do think there are a lot of fly by night agencies on bp, I still do believe that it's a great place too look. In fact, I found the "vip" agency I worked for years ago on backpage and it was a joy working for them ....until the disagreement.
    I understand what you're saying here, but place yourself in a newbie's shoes. If you don't know how to tell a good agency from a bad one, then how would you know Aphrodite and the like are legitimate, especially if they don't post their agency names in the ads? In a case like that there's nothing for a newbie to do but answer the ones they think sound legit, which we all know is like playing Russian roulette. That's why threads like this one are so important.

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    I personally wouldn't answer an ad that didn't name the agency hiring, but that's just me. Too many weirdos and pic collectors out there.


    Ads that over promise $$$ and say "Work TONIGHT!" or "Lookin 4 Moneymakerzzz" should be suspect IMO. Its more likely they are inexperienced hustlers than pimps. You never know the deal until they contact you.


    A real agency will interview in an office or a public space, like starbucks. Others may do a phone interview if the owner is out of state. Explain everything you need to know & answer your questions. They may ask for the vitals (measurements etc), have you fill out a form and snap a head shot of you for the booker. If hired, they may book a shoot or ask for pics for their site or portfolio. One female agent asked me to disrobe (checking for tattoos, scars & imperfections) briefly, but didn't touch me or ask me to do anything strange. The process varies, but legit agents wont put you in a compromising position during an interview.


    If you have to "audition" with the driver - SCAM
    If they ask for fully nude photos in the ad - PIC COLLECTOR
    If they want to interview you in a hotel room - SCAM
    If they try to video tape you or take nude photos of you during the interview - SCAM
    If they refuse to answer questions or brag about how they have disciplined another girl - BAD SIGN
    If they refer to clients as "tricks" or refer to themselves as "protection" - PIMP




    I haven't come across too many pimps placing employment ads online. They use other methods of recruitment (at least in my city).
    A pimp setup will usually involve a system where you have to make $ for the pimp before you pocket any money. For example, I knew a pimp who charged customers $100 (which went to him) then it was the girl's job to hustle any additional money from the client. OR the pimp will work a girl in exchange for housing and other necessities; when the girl needs pocket money she must ask the pimp.


    The smartest pimps, however, will trick a shy, naive girl into thinking she is special, dazzle her by flashing money around, pretend he is romantically interested. Then once she is gaga for for him, convince her to surrender her credit cards, ID, passport so he can "manage" her. Then tell her if she wants to stay in the high life she needs to work for it.


    My ex boyfriend had quite a few friends who were pimps. I was appalled by the crap these men would spew.
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