Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 43

Thread: New Trends.

  1. #1
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default New Trends.

    I am noticing a couple of new trends and am curious if anyone else has noticed this and what is your general opinion of how it does or doesn't affect the health of camming industry in general?

    Trend #1 For the 2nd consecutive week I'm making more money on indie camming than I am by using the commercial sites (More specific; SM. I'm pretty much making nothing there).
    I realize summer time is usually quiet but I am not used to waiting more than 15 minutes for a show. Lately I can be on an hour or more before I finally get one.

    Trend #2 Just as someone set the precedent of dancing topless and putting on free shows in guest chat I am now seeing a new precedent of 2 gold for 60 minutes being set.

    I realize the lower price shows have been around since more of the girls started having gold shows enabled (and at least they are charging something) but it seems to be more of a regular thing lately.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Joined
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Aboard The Spaceship
    Posts
    4,787
    Thanks
    3,183
    Thanked 10,142 Times in 3,290 Posts
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: New Trends.

    #1: Girls make majority of their money from regulars. So if you never cultivated regulars on SM, you're kinda screwed since the paid traffic drop. The only way to make good money and get good placement is regulars. And the only way to cultivate and keep regulars is by working a lot of hours or at least working regularly, offering something that no one else offers (that could also be applied to looks), being personable and happy (which I don't think can be faked), and keeping those customers interacting with you either by SM inbox, twitter, or some sort of social network. They will naturally KIT if they have you on their favorites list and you're on like everyday, so no social network would be needed in that case.

    #2: Yeah everyone is doing cheap as fuck gold shows AND giving out multiple videos for contributors. Thats just asking to be on tube sites honestly. They may not do them that cheap all the time, but they do them often. $1, $2, $3, $4 being the most common. They don't even set a high goal either, so they are only hurting themselves bc those people will come back demanding more $2 gold shows and going into another girl's room when they can't get them. Then again, I don't really do gold shows because what I offer wouldn't really make sense as a gold show so idk. But yes, girls are both offering more and asking for way less.

    But yes I see both trends on Streamate.

  3. #3
    Banned Fridays's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,440
    Thanks
    5,169
    Thanked 4,889 Times in 1,426 Posts
    My Mood
    Daring

    Default Re: New Trends.

    I do not do indy but.....I do not see these trends on SM..
    Maybe I dont spy alot on other models...so I have no idea what they;re doing....

  4. #4
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    #1: Girls make majority of their money from regulars. So if you never cultivated regulars on SM, you're kinda screwed since the paid traffic drop. The only way to make good money and get good placement is regulars. And the only way to cultivate and keep regulars is by working a lot of hours or at least working regularly, offering something that no one else offers (that could also be applied to looks), being personable and happy (which I don't think can be faked), and keeping those customers interacting with you either by SM inbox, twitter, or some sort of social network. They will naturally KIT if they have you on their favorites list and you're on like everyday, so no social network would be needed in that case.

    #2: Yeah everyone is doing cheap as fuck gold shows AND giving out multiple videos for contributors. Thats just asking to be on tube sites honestly. They may not do them that cheap all the time, but they do them often. $1, $2, $3, $4 being the most common. They don't even set a high goal either, so they are only hurting themselves bc those people will come back demanding more $2 gold shows and going into another girl's room when they can't get them. Then again, I don't really do gold shows because what I offer wouldn't really make sense as a gold show so idk. But yes, girls are both offering more and asking for way less.

    But yes I see both trends on Streamate.
    I don't really dislike a lower goal as much as I dislike the extended length of time. One person does it, the next person see's it and does it and then next girl see's it and does it until it eventually becomes the new "normal". I can see the logic, "I need to make XXX and I'm making XX per hour". It's about meeting the goal TODAY but not taking into consideration the long term IMHO. I'm thinking the girl who started this trend is going to have a very hard time filling her shows once everyone else starts following suit but I could be wrong. I have been wrong in the past and will probably be wrong again as perfect as I am

  5. #5
    Banned Fridays's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,440
    Thanks
    5,169
    Thanked 4,889 Times in 1,426 Posts
    My Mood
    Daring

    Default Re: New Trends.

    I've been yelling here for a while now that everyone should follow the $1 for 1 at least trend
    but no one wants to listennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


  6. #6
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    I've been yelling here for a while now that everyone should follow the $1 for 1 at least trend
    but no one wants to listennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    Do you mean $3/3min $5/5min $10/10 min? Is that what you mean by $1 for 1? I am in full agreement if this is what you are saying. Unfortunately I think this leaves me out in the skinny because I usually do $5/8 or $5/10. Ultimately I too must follow the trends and I don't always make my goals even with that!

  7. #7
    Banned Fridays's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,440
    Thanks
    5,169
    Thanked 4,889 Times in 1,426 Posts
    My Mood
    Daring

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    Do you mean $3/3min $5/5min $10/10 min? Is that what you mean by $1 for 1? I am in full agreement if this is what you are saying. Unfortunately I think this leaves me out in the skinny because I usually do $5/8 or $5/10. Ultimately I too must follow the trends and I don't always make my goals even with that!
    yes thats what Im saying..
    I know its hard sometimes..

  8. #8
    Veteran Member GracieBlue's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    582
    Thanks
    2,389
    Thanked 1,049 Times in 367 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    I've been yelling here for a while now that everyone should follow the $1 for 1 at least trend
    but no one wants to listennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    I'm listening!

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GracieBlue For This Useful Post:


  10. #9
    God/dess Marina Starr's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Don't Bother Me, USA
    Posts
    9,937
    Thanks
    12,135
    Thanked 37,400 Times in 8,666 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    I never follow the trends. I do what works for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



  11. The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Marina Starr For This Useful Post:


  12. #10
    Veteran Member Cam_chick's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    366
    Thanks
    620
    Thanked 899 Times in 234 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Fridays, I wish everyone would do 1/1 gold shows like you do. The goals you are able to reach are fucking amazing.


    "You don't want to work today?? I get paid 9 dollars an hour to move boxes around, so go fuck yourself. No really, go fuck yourself right now"

  13. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Cam_chick For This Useful Post:


  14. #11
    Veteran Member Tbean's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2012
    Posts
    203
    Thanks
    162
    Thanked 248 Times in 94 Posts
    My Mood
    Doh

    Default Re: New Trends.

    I've been meaning to ask about the huge dip in traffic that some are experiencing on the big commercial sites...I had the opposite happen and I'm really not sure why because I'm not doing anything differently at all...when I had signed up for the sites, I'd log in, get some shows here and there but not much at all...and I figured that I had honestly just missed the boat or was missing something somewhere...has anyone recently changed their geographic restrictions? The reason I ask is because I was looking at mine today and I did notice on one site it said that by blocking even one location it will remove you from other types of searches also...so I thought maybe that could be something if anyone has recently made changes like that.
    I'm on Twitter, follow me I'll follow you!




    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyslilHeaven View Post
    If I get upset, I just think about bubbles then go blow some...nothing makes me happier than watching beautiful, innocently fragile spheres float through the air then die. LOL!

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to Tbean For This Useful Post:


  16. #12
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Soooo.... anybody check out the new placements yet? LOL

    Trends mean nothing? Really?

    So again I will point out that I am only live 10 to 15 hours a week. For those of you who know who I am please explain my placement... *grin*

  17. #13
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    Soooo.... anybody check out the new placements yet? LOL

    Trends mean nothing? Really?

    So again I will point out that I am only live 10 to 15 hours a week. For those of you who know who I am please explain my placement... *grin*
    Mind you.. I am a TOTAL BITCH in free chat. I do not smile to freeloaders. I greet no one. I do not tease. I do NOT go topless and I do NOT dance. I make it very clear if that if they have no fat wallet I have nothing but a 6 inch heel to go up their ass as I boot them out of my chat room. I am also known as being completely rude and giving people the FUCK OFF sign (middle finger) in my chat room frequently. I frequently tell freeloaders to go fuck themselves, I call freeloaders out on their "show me bb" way at every chance I get and I am a fucking hateful cunt to anyone who has no money.

    I am not a Dom. (ok maybe a little) but I am a business woman and my paid chat time is 35% and banned list is about 3000.

    To my haters; ga head. knock me down. 80's punk rocker bitch attitude - body for animalistic sex - mind for business.

    FREE CHAT: A place to show you are the girl in the photo and nothing else.

    I do believe I have influence in this business. I do believe if I bark in enough ears eventually it will catch on. I do believe I know enough site owners and old school webmasters to make changes. I want to believe. Before I (re)retire I am going to make these changes. Period.

    I always wondered why I was called back into this business. I do believe there is a reason for everything.
    Last edited by cvarga; 08-02-2012 at 03:04 AM.

  18. #14
    Banned
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    2,551
    Thanks
    6,900
    Thanked 7,271 Times in 1,924 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Why not just be your own person? No model HAS TO DO what other models "suggest" (in a very "Im better bc I do this XYZ" mode) <---- Fuck that. DO YOU! Do what works for you and you only.
    Fuck me ~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Feed me~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Finance me~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Other than that there are "no trends". We are marketed in so many ways that it actually confuses the customers such as "squirtnetwork" (WL) just bc the custi found me through that does not mean I squirt, I kindly explain that to them.
    I assume some ppl do not like trends ...(shhhhh this is a secret....TRENDS mean CHANGES, some people simply do not like changes but do not tell anyone I said that)

    Cvarga I don't think anyone is hating on you unless I skipped a entry. Do you gurl <3

    Its all blood sweat and tears with a big pay off at the end.

    I love what I do, how I do it and the income that needs to go out.

    Basically IMO Do what works for you~ holla!

  19. #15
    Banned
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    2,551
    Thanks
    6,900
    Thanked 7,271 Times in 1,924 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Here is a great commercial for those that need a upper instead of a thread that is about to go south (Do you girls!)

  20. #16
    Veteran Member Glasses's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2011
    Location
    CE
    Posts
    656
    Thanks
    5,435
    Thanked 1,869 Times in 475 Posts
    My Mood
    Daring

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    We are marketed in so many ways that it actually confuses the customers such as "squirtnetwork" (WL) just bc the custi found me through that does not mean I squirt, I kindly explain that to them
    LMAO I remembered THIS:

    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post

    Streamate:

    U AINTGOT A DICK
    IS DIS SHEMALECAMS>COM U GOT DICK
    WHERE YO DICK AT
    IN YO CHEST

  21. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Glasses For This Useful Post:


  22. #17
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    Why not just be your own person? No model HAS TO DO what other models "suggest" (in a very "Im better bc I do this XYZ" mode) <---- Fuck that. DO YOU! Do what works for you and you only.
    Fuck me ~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Feed me~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Finance me~ you may have a .00000000000000000000001% say on what I do
    Other than that there are "no trends". We are marketed in so many ways that it actually confuses the customers such as "squirtnetwork" (WL) just bc the custi found me through that does not mean I squirt, I kindly explain that to them.
    I assume some ppl do not like trends ...(shhhhh this is a secret....TRENDS mean CHANGES, some people simply do not like changes but do not tell anyone I said that)

    Cvarga I don't think anyone is hating on you unless I skipped a entry. Do you gurl <3

    Its all blood sweat and tears with a big pay off at the end.

    I love what I do, how I do it and the income that needs to go out.

    Basically IMO Do what works for you~ holla!
    This is my point exactly. I am so sick to death of everyone saying you have to, must do, should be: when the fact is I am the anti-what everyone says we should be.

    "You must split cam" - NOT
    "You must talk in chat even if no one is there" - NOT
    "You need to dance around and be entertaining" - NOT
    "All the successful girls are doing..." - NOT

    As far as anyone hating on me, who the hell cares if they do. I know I don't.

  23. #18
    God/dess Marina Starr's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Don't Bother Me, USA
    Posts
    9,937
    Thanks
    12,135
    Thanked 37,400 Times in 8,666 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Does it get tired to do all that? I am just trying to understand because there seems to be a lot of anger.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    Mind you.. I am a TOTAL BITCH in free chat. I do not smile to freeloaders. I greet no one. I do not tease. I do NOT go topless and I do NOT dance. I make it very clear if that if they have no fat wallet I have nothing but a 6 inch heel to go up their ass as I boot them out of my chat room. I am also known as being completely rude and giving people the FUCK OFF sign (middle finger) in my chat room frequently. I frequently tell freeloaders to go fuck themselves, I call freeloaders out on their "show me bb" way at every chance I get and I am a fucking hateful cunt to anyone who has no money.

    I am not a Dom. (ok maybe a little) but I am a business woman and my paid chat time is 35% and banned list is about 3000.

    To my haters; ga head. knock me down. 80's punk rocker bitch attitude - body for animalistic sex - mind for business.

    FREE CHAT: A place to show you are the girl in the photo and nothing else.

    I do believe I have influence in this business. I do believe if I bark in enough ears eventually it will catch on. I do believe I know enough site owners and old school webmasters to make changes. I want to believe. Before I (re)retire I am going to make these changes. Period.

    I always wondered why I was called back into this business. I do believe there is a reason for everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



  24. #19
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Double post

  25. #20
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    ew gross, your gif lol


    I am angry. Really angry. I'm pissed off by the direction the cam world is taking but then I also know somewhere out this is a PTA mom who is just seething at the bit waiting to sue some camgirl for providing her teenage son with porn. I'm tired of reading "I was dancing around" and all of the other things that are said which implies we must be actively doing something in our free chats.

    I'm venting

    That's no secret. I vent, and vent a lot around here. Where else can I scream and holler and get red faced and be able to recoup from it? The local mall?

  26. #21
    God/dess SarahTime's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    3,681
    Thanks
    8,041
    Thanked 13,685 Times in 2,854 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    Soooo.... anybody check out the new placements yet? LOL
    What do you mean?
    xoxo ~ Sarah




  27. The Following User Says Thank You to SarahTime For This Useful Post:


  28. #22
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Have you looked yet? a couple of the "front page girls" lost their placement. When I say lost placement I mean they were moved from row 2 or 3 (page 1) to row 2 or 3 (page 2). I was in front of two girls I absolutely adore and have admired ever since I have been on SM. Not just a couple spaces but by a full page.

    Derailing my own thread here; Where DO you go to vent? I personally have no one to discus my camming frustrations with in my personal life. There's only 2 people who know I am camming and when we are together it's the last thing I care to talk about. I mean I do get out in the sun, get my exercise within my limits but as far as just getting it all out of my system there really is no healthy outlet.

    I promise, I am not this angry of a person in my real life. I just don't know where else to throw it out of my system!

  29. #23
    Banned
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    465
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked 591 Times in 214 Posts

    Default Re: New Trends.

    As unhealthy as some of my posts appear to be. I am actually maintaining my sanity by positing such anger.

  30. #24
    God/dess justanothercamgirl's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    5,198
    Thanks
    17,219
    Thanked 19,858 Times in 4,131 Posts
    My Mood
    Lurking

    Default Re: New Trends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    I've been yelling here for a while now that everyone should follow the $1 for 1 at least trend
    but no one wants to listennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    I listen! I do $1 for 1 shows all the time! Hell, it is all I do somedays.

  31. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to justanothercamgirl For This Useful Post:


  32. #25
    Veteran Member Eye's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Podunk MO
    Posts
    314
    Thanks
    78
    Thanked 290 Times in 121 Posts
    My Mood
    Sleepy

    Default Re: New Trends.

    I think it's perfectly ok to vent as much as you need to in a place where you feel safe! AND HEALTHY!

    If you keep it all pent up inside, you may get to the point that you just give up. Trust me, I've been in a few jobs/situations where that has happened. Hugs to you. And how are you feeling now? Not so angry?

  33. The Following User Says Thank You to Eye For This Useful Post:


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Stripperwear: The Trends
    By kikiwiki in forum Body Business
    Replies: 218
    Last Post: 06-23-2022, 03:24 AM
  2. Trends
    By harlequinn in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 06-07-2010, 02:13 PM
  3. Summer Trends
    By golden41 in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 08-16-2008, 08:29 PM
  4. beauty trends
    By Sparxxx in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-29-2008, 12:19 AM
  5. Fashion Trends
    By Purity in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-05-2005, 04:54 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •