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    I found one last week in my town of Toronto, Canada. The cvlub is called Diamond Cabaret and the private BBW nights are called "Shapely Sinners" on Friday nights

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    There's a lot more room for being "niche" in camming rather than stripping

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotexoticdw View Post
    You know, I often find that a lot of big critical guys are saying the older strippers, the bbws, and other fetish fitting girls are usually what you find in the dumpy bars that nobody would bother going to.

    Having ran a strip club review website at one point I went around to a lot of clubs, including the "trashy" ones where the BBW dancers, the Gilfs, and Milfs were accepted by the management as well as of course the B-Squad. I found that the door entry fee here was about 10-15 dollars higher for a BYOB all nude (which is a law here in Texas where I am from) and there was expensive parking, yet even still the club is always full. Is it me, or is everyone being a little over critical. I saw a thread on the girls only section that asked when it was time to retire, I think you can really press it because believe it or not there is always some guy out there with a granny fetish, or if a girl is big then some guys like big girls.

    Any thoughts? I was just curious how everyone felt about this from both perspectives. My opinion is that variety is the spice of life and too much of the same thing is vanilla so I welcome a little of it all if only for something different.
    To be honest my personal preference is a young girl in her 20's who has a spinner type build. BUT, looks are just skin deep.

    Although that is what I am most attracted to, I often find myself passing over those girls because of other factors: bad personality, too pushy and mean, poor communication skills, don't like way I am being treated, insanely high prices, non negotiable, etc.

    Looks are important, but I will put more weight into other factors that I will use to prejudge in my head how well the club experience will be with that girl. Most guys probably care most about looks, not me. She can be the hottest girl in the club but if she treats me like crap I will pass her up for a less attractive girl who treats me like I am her king and puts me on a pedestal. The way I am treated is by far the biggest factor I use to pick a dancer to spend money on.

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    ^^^^ You should get a mail-order bride from a 3rd world country where the women are "submissive", I feel like that would make you happy.



    The topic of older dancers has been beaten to hell on this forum but I definitely think there is a place for dancers into their 40's (and beyond?) as there is a good customer base for them. BBW is relative. If you are talking about dancers that weigh 200+ lbs I think its more of a gimmick. If you are talking "thick" I think that is the preferred aesthetic these days and rail-thin model type women are only the majority in a few places.
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    BBW is a nice name for overweight or fat. Seeing them in a club will make me seek out other clubs. I don't care if they cam, but if they are in a club, it is impossible to avoid seeing them on stage. A requirement for dancing is being fit and toned. If you aren't, you aren't qualified to dance and shouldn't be in the club. Too many fat dancers in a club will hurt other dancers in the club by driving away customers. If you are overweight and want to dance, lose some damn weight. Sorry, but I can see nude women everywhere. Gorgeous, fit, women. I don't want to waste a club visit watching fat women dancing. That may sound harsh, but frankly, there are some women in the clubs I'd pay NOT to have to see naked.

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    Sorry but I do not understand why you got to body shame anyone. Frankly, you can just pass up the plus size women for the thin ones.I really do not understand why men are so critical when it comes to that. It is enough fit and young strippers for men to choose from. Let guys who enjoy the BBW or whomever type of dancers get their kicks. It is that simple and stop acting like you can see nude girls everywhere. I doubt that you are that hot and that loaded. Real talk


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    BBW is a nice name for overweight or fat. Seeing them in a club will make me seek out other clubs. I don't care if they cam, but if they are in a club, it is impossible to avoid seeing them on stage. A requirement for dancing is being fit and toned. If you aren't, you aren't qualified to dance and shouldn't be in the club. Too many fat dancers in a club will hurt other dancers in the club by driving away customers. If you are overweight and want to dance, lose some damn weight. Sorry, but I can see nude women everywhere. Gorgeous, fit, women. I don't want to waste a club visit watching fat women dancing. That may sound harsh, but frankly, there are some women in the clubs I'd pay NOT to have to see naked.

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    Ummm... you seem like another idiot who does not understand how strip clubs work. You go there, search for the type of girl you enjoy, get a dance from that same girl, treat her with respect, have fun, and leave. Spend money on your favorite I really do not get why you are going to the strip club to be treated like a king. Something is lacking at home if you go to the strip club for that


    Quote Originally Posted by November_Scorpio View Post
    To be honest my personal preference is a young girl in her 20's who has a spinner type build. BUT, looks are just skin deep.

    Although that is what I am most attracted to, I often find myself passing over those girls because of other factors: bad personality, too pushy and mean, poor communication skills, don't like way I am being treated, insanely high prices, non negotiable, etc.

    Looks are important, but I will put more weight into other factors that I will use to prejudge in my head how well the club experience will be with that girl. Most guys probably care most about looks, not me. She can be the hottest girl in the club but if she treats me like crap I will pass her up for a less attractive girl who treats me like I am her king and puts me on a pedestal. The way I am treated is by far the biggest factor I use to pick a dancer to spend money on.

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    My take is you sound waay too picky, as was pointed out, it's a strip club, you're not buying a wife, or is that what you're going for?


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    Maybe my choice of words could be better, things tend to get misinterpeted. When I said "submissive" I meant a girl who lets the man take charge and be in control. In no way do I mean a girl should be treated like a slave? Need a girl from a third world country? A mail order bride lol getting a little too far fetched here ? Cmon why this jumping to false conclusions and attacking? Umm the way I was raised the man takes charge and all males in family took charge of the family, so it feels unnatural to me any other way. Like my girlfriend lets me be in charge and make the decisions like my ex-wife. I guess I should of used a different word then submissive it was really misconstrued to mean some outrageous things lol.

    When I said I like to be treated like a King, I mean spoil me a little. Like umm when I got to club Atlantis the club treats me like a king. They valet park your car, they treat you like royalty is entering the door. They ask where like to sit and find a seat for you. They ask you what waitress you will like and they ask you what is the body type of the kind of dancer you like. They bring the dancer to you and say here you go sir this dancer fits the body type you described. That is what I meant by being treated like a king. They do the exact same thing at Club Allure, Polekatz and many Chicago clubs. It is just like when go to any fancy restaurant. They treat you like a king when you enter. They valet park your car, find a seat for you, ask you if there is anything else they can do for you. Maybe when I said treated like a king should of used a different word, again my language seems to have been misinterpreted to mean what I didn't mean at all.

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    Sorry but I do not understand why you got to body shame anyone. Frankly, you can just pass up the plus size women for the thin ones.I really do not understand why men are so critical when it comes to that. It is enough fit and young strippers for men to choose from. Let guys who enjoy the BBW or whomever type of dancers get their kicks. It is that simple and stop acting like you can see nude girls everywhere. I doubt that you are that hot and that loaded. Real talk
    Men are very visual creatures. Just as we get great pleasure looking at beautiful women, seeing a fat or ugly one, can be very off putting. It really kills the mood. If a club has BBW's, I switch to a different club. Letting those BBW's dance hurts both the club and the other dancers. That is why upscale clubs have a higher bar for hiring.

    With cam shows it is different. I can avoid those rooms with BBW's. In a club, I'm forced to see them on stage rotations. That's the difference.

    Every woman is not qualified to be a dancer just because she has a vagina. They need the looks and personality for the job.

    Just like not every guy can be an NFL player. Only those with the proper qualifications will be hired. And if they did hire someone with no talent, then the whole team would suffer. Who would pay to see games when the team sucked because the team's hiring process was focused on inclusiveness rather than qualifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    My take is you sound waay too picky, as was pointed out, it's a strip club, you're not buying a wife, or is that what you're going for?

    Nope, not that picky, and not looking for a wife. Just not wanting to waste my time/dollars watching out of shape dancers. I'm going for a fantasy.

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    First of all, not every man has the same and you do not speak for everyman. Stop trying to explain to me what men are like. I already know men are visual creatures. Just like you not like a certain type of women does not mean you speak for every man. I was talking about men who did not fall the same body standards that you are talking about. Secondly, strip clubs do not hire a whole bunch of BBW, Milfs, and Glifs. That leaves men with those desires out in the cold because they like those types of women. Men like yourself should stop bitching because you have so many choices in the world to be satisfied with. Also, a thin woman can be ugly as well and a BBW can be very beautiful.
    Third, I am sure that many women will find you very off putting and ugly as well. So, I hope that you have tons of money and looks to make up for your "taste" I hope that you are at least 8 or have thousands of dollars to spend on 9 or 10.Just saying that you need to also know your limitations as a man before talking about someone being fat and ugly. I hope that you have the looks and/or money to backup your taste.


    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Men are very visual creatures. Just as we get great pleasure looking at beautiful women, seeing a fat or ugly one, can be very off putting. It really kills the mood. If a club has BBW's, I switch to a different club. Letting those BBW's dance hurts both the club and the other dancers. That is why upscale clubs have a higher bar for hiring.

    With cam shows it is different. I can avoid those rooms with BBW's. In a club, I'm forced to see them on stage rotations. That's the difference.

    Every woman is not qualified to be a dancer just because she has a vagina. They need the looks and personality for the job.

    Just like not every guy can be an NFL player. Only those with the proper qualifications will be hired. And if they did hire someone with no talent, then the whole team would suffer. Who would pay to see games when the team sucked because the team's hiring process was focused on inclusiveness rather than qualifications.

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    The thing is, I've worked in clubs that had a couple of legitimate BBWs (I'm not talking about strip club's ideas of BBWs which seems to be any woman over 110 pounds lately, I'm talking about actual over 200 pounds BBWs) and yes I have heard guys complain about them, ask why they are working there, but at the same time they all seem to have a loyal following of customers who always spend money on them no matter what. Same with many of the milfs, gilfs, and other girls who don't fit your typical barbie stripper stereotype.

    While these ladies might not attract all the guys who walk into the room and might not qualify for sports illustrated magazine they still make money. From what I've seen niche customers are very loyal customers. That's something to consider as well. You're not the only customer, just because you're not into something doesn't mean nobody else will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    First of all, not every man has the same and you do not speak for everyman. Stop trying to explain to me what men are like. I already know men are visual creatures. Just like you not like a certain type of women does not mean you speak for every man. I was talking about men who did not fall the same body standards that you are talking about. Secondly, strip clubs do not hire a whole bunch of BBW, Milfs, and Glifs. That leaves men with those desires out in the cold because they like those types of women. Men like yourself should stop bitching because you have so many choices in the world to be satisfied with. Also, a thin woman can be ugly as well and a BBW can be very beautiful.
    Third, I am sure that many women will find you very off putting and ugly as well. So, I hope that you have tons of money and looks to make up for your "taste" I hope that you are at least 8 or have thousands of dollars to spend on 9 or 10.Just saying that you need to also know your limitations as a man before talking about someone being fat and ugly. I hope that you have the looks and/or money to backup your taste.
    I love and agree with everything you said here. It was everything I wanted to put into words in my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    BBW is a nice name for overweight or fat. Seeing them in a club will make me seek out other clubs. I don't care if they cam, but if they are in a club, it is impossible to avoid seeing them on stage. A requirement for dancing is being fit and toned. If you aren't, you aren't qualified to dance and shouldn't be in the club. Too many fat dancers in a club will hurt other dancers in the club by driving away customers. If you are overweight and want to dance, lose some damn weight. Sorry, but I can see nude women everywhere. Gorgeous, fit, women. I don't want to waste a club visit watching fat women dancing. That may sound harsh, but frankly, there are some women in the clubs I'd pay NOT to have to see naked.
    I'm inclined to play the devil's advocate here simply because I've gained a bit more weight than I'm comfortable with. It also depends on the type of club that you are going to. You can't go into your neighborhood dive and expect Helen of Troy to walk onstage.
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    I've always thought clubs were more "group think" opinions on what "every man" wants because guys are picking their preferences based on the judgment of men around them while cams is more "fuck, I love that and I'm alone, so I can REALLY enjoy what I like....my two cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaraLynn View Post
    The thing is, I've worked in clubs that had a couple of legitimate BBWs (I'm not talking about strip club's ideas of BBWs which seems to be any woman over 110 pounds lately, I'm talking about actual over 200 pounds BBWs) and yes I have heard guys complain about them, ask why they are working there, but at the same time they all seem to have a loyal following of customers who always spend money on them no matter what. Same with many of the milfs, gilfs, and other girls who don't fit your typical barbie stripper stereotype.

    While these ladies might not attract all the guys who walk into the room and might not qualify for sports illustrated magazine they still make money. From what I've seen niche customers are very loyal customers. That's something to consider as well. You're not the only customer, just because you're not into something doesn't mean nobody else will be.
    Let me give you an analogy. Let's say you started eating a beautiful bowl of sweet, fresh strawberries. After you eat a delightful strawberry, you notice that the one beneath it is moldy and rotten. Your appetite for the strawberries is gone in an instant, and you are unlikely to return to the restaurant when you have a craving for strawberries again.

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    Oh yeah, I see now. Plus size and other types of women not to your desires are like rotten strawberries. Oh honey, I hope that you are hot and rich enough to make that analogy. Because if you are not hot nor rich enough to make that claim....then I would not throw shade. I hope that you are as handsome, rich, and big-dicked to make those analogies. It sounds like you are not but I am hoping. Because you need money to keep the ladies interested. You see, I can understand if you are a 9 with tons of income making that analogy but if you are 3, middle class, and past old age. Then that is like the crypt keeper demanding hot women at his peck and call, right?


    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Let me give you an analogy. Let's say you started eating a beautiful bowl of sweet, fresh strawberries. After you eat a delightful strawberry, you notice that the one beneath it is moldy and rotten. Your appetite for the strawberries is gone in an instant, and you are unlikely to return to the restaurant when you have a craving for strawberries again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Oh yeah, I see now. Plus size and other types of women not to your desires are like rotten strawberries. Oh honey, I hope that you are hot and rich enough to make that analogy. Because if you are not hot nor rich enough to make that claim....then I would not throw shade. I hope that you are as handsome, rich, and big-dicked to make those analogies. It sounds like you are not but I am hoping. Because you need money to keep the ladies interested. You see, I can understand if you are a 9 with tons of income making that analogy but if you are 3, middle class, and past old age. Then that is like the crypt keeper demanding hot women at his peck and call, right?
    LMFAO. Your posts just keep making my entire day. And yeah, Gameover, I understand that certain women aren't your type but I do think comparing them to rotten strawberries is more than a little bit harsh......if this is how you feel then just stick to super upscale clubs that only hire super skinny women. If you walk into a dive or a mid tier club known for having a variety of women you can't get disappointed when you see some that aren't your type and you don't care to fuck (also mentioned above in another post) and a lot of guys have their preference and are perfectly fine with just passing on girls who approach them who they aren't attracted to and grabbing dances with the ones they like. There's no need to let it ruin your entire strip club experience.

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    Oh yeah, I see now. Plus size and other types of women not to your desires are like rotten strawberries. Oh honey, I hope that you are hot and rich enough to make that analogy. Because if you are not hot nor rich enough to make that claim....then I would not throw shade. I hope that you are as handsome, rich, and big-dicked to make those analogies. It sounds like you are not but I am hoping. Because you need money to keep the ladies interested. You see, I can understand if you are a 9 with tons of income making that analogy but if you are 3, middle class, and past old age. Then that is like the crypt keeper demanding hot women at his peck and call, right?
    Hmm, I think the expression you are "pecking" for is "beck and call", not "peck and call". No, I don't date supermodels, but the women I do date are fit, like me. I do enjoy the fantasy of very attractive dancers, that's why I go to a strip club. I think a woman's body can be the most beautiful thing in the world. But an obese woman's body is a huge mood kill. People act like it is not a person's fault if they are overweight. It is. If you eat the number of calories your body needs, you will not gain weight. If you eat more, you will gain weight. If you exercise, you can eat more without gaining weight. Dancers are athletes. You don't see other overweight athletes. An overweight runner would never win a race.

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    Hmm, I think the expression you are "pecking" for is "beck and call", not "peck and call". No, I don't date supermodels, but the women I do date are fit, like me. I do enjoy the fantasy of very attractive dancers, that's why I go to a strip club. I think a woman's body can be the most beautiful thing in the world. But an obese woman's body is a huge mood kill. People act like it is not a person's fault if they are overweight. It is. If you eat the number of calories your body needs, you will not gain weight. If you eat more, you will gain weight. If you exercise, you can eat more without gaining weight. Dancers are athletes. You don't see other overweight athletes. An overweight runner would never win a race.
    Hey if it's any consolation, you motivated me to go harder on my jog this morning. I gained weight over the course of a few months and it's nobody's fault but my own. I did this to myself, now I'm gonna undo it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Hmm, I think the expression you are "pecking" for is "beck and call", not "peck and call". No, I don't date supermodels, but the women I do date are fit, like me. I do enjoy the fantasy of very attractive dancers, that's why I go to a strip club. I think a woman's body can be the most beautiful thing in the world. But an obese woman's body is a huge mood kill. People act like it is not a person's fault if they are overweight. It is. If you eat the number of calories your body needs, you will not gain weight. If you eat more, you will gain weight. If you exercise, you can eat more without gaining weight. Dancers are athletes. You don't see other overweight athletes. An overweight runner would never win a race.
    Well, if you stick to upscale clubs you should be fine. Most upscale strip clubs have very strict weight requirements.

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    Yeah, I mean peck and call. Crypt keeper is a zombie with little teeth left.So he would peck them over. Also, you still did not answer my question about you being handsome, rich, or having a big dick. So, I guess that is answer is no.I am saying that if you are not hot, rich, or have a big dick...then you should not be throwing stones.No one is claiming being fat is healthy here. So stop with your lies! Everyone knows that gaining weight is the person's fault.I was simply addressing your low-class behavior on this subject. You keep body shaming not only plus size women but other types of women as well. You are acting like BBW and other types of strippers hurt you. Then you have the nerve to act like every man desires what you desire. In addition, you want to dictated how clubs choose their dancers. Those non-Barbie type of dancers are not for men with your taste. Geez, no one gives a damn about your strip club fantasies outside of the strip club. No one in this thread asked you about your fantasies. Personally, I could care less about your boring 1980s playboy bunny fantasies. I am not making my money off those fantasies.

    Being fit is not the same as being handsome nor rich,right? Are you rich, handsome, successful, and fit? If you can not say yes to all of those things, then you need to stop nagging about strippers' weight. I know for a fact....that you are not that hot and not that rich. Of course, you never date supermodels because you do not have money nor the looks. I mean you certainly sound too old to be a boy toy for the rich woman. Nor are you rich and powerful enough to get a supermodel nor actress. Let us not kid ourselves here. You complain about strippers because you have nothing else better to do. Thus, a man like yourself bitching and nagging about strippers'looks come as tacky and low-rent. It is not that serious. Just go to a high-end club and get the chicks you like, damn. Stop acting like you are going to see Victoria secret models and ex-playboy bunnies at every club. Also, you should make sure that you paid those hot strippers handsomely because you sound like a nightmare to deal with. That is my two cents on this subject


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    Hmm, I think the expression you are "pecking" for is "beck and call", not "peck and call". No, I don't date supermodels, but the women I do date are fit, like me. I do enjoy the fantasy of very attractive dancers, that's why I go to a strip club. I think a woman's body can be the most beautiful thing in the world. But an obese woman's body is a huge mood kill. People act like it is not a person's fault if they are overweight. It is. If you eat the number of calories your body needs, you will not gain weight. If you eat more, you will gain weight. If you exercise, you can eat more without gaining weight. Dancers are athletes. You don't see other overweight athletes. An overweight runner would never win a race.

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    Default Re: Milfs, Gilfs, and BBW dancers - Isn't there a place for them?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Yeah, I mean peck and call. Crypt keeper is a zombie with little teeth left.So he would peck them over. Also, you still did not answer my question about you being handsome, rich, or having a big dick. So, I guess that is answer is no.I am saying that if you are not hot, rich, or have a big dick...then you should not be throwing stones.No one is claiming being fat is healthy here. So stop with your lies! Everyone knows that gaining weight is the person's fault.I was simply addressing your low-class behavior on this subject. You keep body shaming not only plus size women but other types of women as well. You are acting like BBW and other types of strippers hurt you. Then you have the nerve to act like every man desires what you desire. In addition, you want to dictated how clubs choose their dancers. Those non-Barbie type of dancers are not for men with your taste. Geez, no one gives a damn about your strip club fantasies outside of the strip club. No one in this thread asked you about your fantasies. Personally, I could care less about your boring 1980s playboy bunny fantasies. I am not making my money off those fantasies.

    Being fit is not the same as being handsome nor rich,right? Are you rich, handsome, successful, and fit? If you can not say yes to all of those things, then you need to stop nagging about strippers' weight. I know for a fact....that you are not that hot and not that rich. Of course, you never date supermodels because you do not have money nor the looks. I mean you certainly sound too old to be a boy toy for the rich woman. Nor are you rich and powerful enough to get a supermodel nor actress. Let us not kid ourselves here. You complain about strippers because you have nothing else better to do. Thus, a man like yourself bitching and nagging about strippers'looks come as tacky and low-rent. It is not that serious. Just go to a high-end club and get the chicks you like, damn. Stop acting like you are going to see Victoria secret models and ex-playboy bunnies at every club. Also, you should make sure that you paid those hot strippers handsomely because you sound like a nightmare to deal with. That is my two cents on this subject
    Well, I'm not sure what in my post qualifies as a lie. I do think the term BBW, if anything, is a lie. It's just a politically correct term for fat. Given that strippers earn their money off their looks, I'm not sure why I shouldn't expect them to be at the top of their game. I mean, I'm supposed to spend $40 on a lap dance on someone I don't find sexy? You are right, you don't have to care about my opinions. But the reason the better clubs are strict on hiring because the customers' opinions are important. And to respond to the post topic, "Is there a place for BBW dancers?", in my opinion, there is not.

    I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with my looks. Most strippers only care about the cash we spend. I'm actually reasonably handsome, I'm a software developer and earn quite a good living, though I'm certainly not rich, and my penis size is just a bit above average in size. If you are really that obsessed, I could send you a pic

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