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    Do you lie to customers?

    I mean I understand telling them a different area you live in, or giving a fake real name, but blatant flat out lies? Like telling them you will meet them outside the club for sex but you need half the money now. Or saying you have kids and really don't. Or you don't have a b/f or husband and really do.

    I'm completely honest with my customers. If they ask if I have a boyfriend I say yes, if they ask for my number I don't give 'em a fake one, I say no. If they ask to meet for lunch I don't half lure them in with empty promises to score a VIP, ect.

    I'm not a good liar, never was and never will be. To me being honest is they best way of going around things. And customers will remember my honesty and appreciate it. Right? Or is lying a part of hustling?

    Just wanted to hear some different opinion and thoughts on the matter.

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    I have been strictly honest for years. I stopped telling people I had a hubbie and my regulars lasted longer. I will meet long term regs OTC for a paid occasion (no sexy stuff, no nudity, no going to a hotel room) but I will not tell a man I will meet him for sex, no way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun_Lilly View Post
    Like telling them you will meet them outside the club for sex but you need half the money now.
    This is just asking for trouble. Not only is it illegal in certain areas and could result in arrest if said to or overheard by the wrong person, but you could end up with a very angry customer returning to complain, and I doubt most management would stand up for a dancer who did this.

    I'm fairly honest with most of my customer interactions because I can't be bothered to remember an elaborate cover story. I do lie about being in a relationship though, but that's because I don't want to talk about it in the club, not necessarily because I think it'll make me more money. I don't give out fake numbers or make promises for meetings, though I am guilty of using the 'maybe if we got to know each other better' line. I also plan on telling customers I'm still in school even though I'm not anymore. It's just such an easy hustle if they're on the fence about getting a dance.

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    Only if I'm bored and/or only about certain things. I would not try to con someone out of money by promising to meet them for sex later. As was stated above, that's just asking for trouble. I also don't try to promise extras to lure guys into VIP. I know it works, and I honestly applaud anyone who does it. I don't not do it because of morality reasons. I just don't want to deal with it. I lie about still being in school, because customers see you in a better light if you're a student "trying to better yourself" than they do if you tell them you graduated and are "still doing this." I lie about my "real" name if I get pressured. Even when I didn't have a bf, I said I did, because it was easier to turn guys down for OTC without being harsh. And, there are a few times when I've been bored, and made up stories about past life drama or how I have kids (I don't), just because it amuses me. I don't really consider that anything serious. How many customers tell us the absolute 100% truth about themselves? Or their motives, or what they plan to pay you if you do this, that, and the other thing? The things I don't lie about are things it's easier not to lie about it, and the things I lie about are things it's easier to lie about. I can't bring "ethics" into it really, because yeah, strippers lie. But so do most customers. We're all trying to get the most out of each other for as little as possible. (And no, I'm not saying that in a "jaded" way, it's just the way the business works - it's actually how most businesses work).
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    I wouldn't lie about something that could get me hurt or in trouble, like promising something I will not provide. If a guy wants OTC and is still willing to do VIP or dances, I will act coy about it not giving an answer until after I made money. Guys blatantly looking for OTC are obnoxious and should pay for us to hear that tripe, IMO.

    I don't see a point in giving a fake number out. I would rather just say no than waste time and breath. I don't see a problem with lying about anything else. If they are that nosey into my personal life and I think I can eventually do dances for them, I will tell them what they want to hear. I will always be single, be 27 years old, and have a day job or in school. I don't have a child, but if I did they wouldn't know about it. My personal life is none of their business but telling them that will not help me make money.

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    No customer whether a close reg or not deserves to know details about my personal life..I have no obligation imho to tell them about my private life..The job is a fantasy and altho I maintain friendships w regs that entail texting and seeing them at work..I do no extras or sex nor do I make promises that Ill do stuff out of the club..Thats asking for trouble and if u talk to the wrong person they could possibly arrest u...If anyone ever asks me if I do private parties or anything else i instantly say no bc in my mind they could b trying to get me n some type of trouble..U cant trust people in clubs..

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    They wont get reality out of me. If they ask me if I have a BF or husband, I say it's them jokingly. Although I am single, they don't need to know shit.

    They don't need to know what town I live in, my status, etc. It is none of their business. I only give well spending customers my phone number, that's it.

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    I make it a policy not to be dishonest with my business practices, but sales (particularly stripping) is an illusion so you can't have a full disclosure policy! A little bit of smoke and mirrors is necessary to have that competitive edge. With that being said, if someone at work drops a $20 bill, I give it back. If they aren't from the area I remind them to be careful walking to their car. I don't flat out lie about the cost of a dance, but I do tell them tips get them a better dance (although I am clear and say "that does not include any illegal activity").

    HOWEVER, if someone asks me if I am in school, I say no. If someone asks if I have a boyfriend, I say no. If someone asks if I have kids, I say no. If someone asks where I live, I'm vague or I lie. If someone asks how old I am, I lie. I won't lie if someone asks if I'll meet them after work or if they can have my number, I'll just say no flat out. With the kids, school, BF questions it's better to just lie than to be defensive and hostile when they typically aren't trying to be creepy. I think some men just don't know better. I've had a FEW incidences that were way out of line regarding my family (comments), but I squashed them and moved on.

    Bottom line is: other dancers at work, customers, and people IDGAF about do not have any need to know about my personal life. When customers 'push' me and keep asking personal questions I do get aggressive and rude (especially if it's at a bachelor party where I can't just walk to the dressing room) because they need to understand that strippers are not people who care to share their personal life stories with them. Adult business is not for making friends or dating, and if they 'love kids' and want to share stories with someone about family they should try Match.com--it's as simple as that.
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    You're supposed to lie to them. I never told a customer anything true except my age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun_Lilly View Post
    Do you lie to customers?

    I mean I understand telling them a different area you live in, or giving a fake real name, but blatant flat out lies? Like telling them you will meet them outside the club for sex but you need half the money now. Or saying you have kids and really don't. Or you don't have a b/f or husband and really do.

    I'm completely honest with my customers. If they ask if I have a boyfriend I say yes, if they ask for my number I don't give 'em a fake one, I say no. If they ask to meet for lunch I don't half lure them in with empty promises to score a VIP, ect.

    I'm not a good liar, never was and never will be. To me being honest is they best way of going around things. And customers will remember my honesty and appreciate it. Right? Or is lying a part of hustling?

    Just wanted to hear some different opinion and thoughts on the matter.
    Promising sex to score money upfront or time in VIP is something I have never done, not because I think it's wrong but because I'm scared of the possible negative consequences.

    Other than that I will lie all night long. I will give out my google voice number then block them and ignore them. I will lie about my real name, real job, real place where I live. Sometimes I do it to help me make money, customers don't want to hear about my boyfriend. Sometimes I do it for fun, it entertains me to spin yarns about my non existent dog and my years training animals for movies.

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    Lying is part of hustling as well as part of life. Im mostly honest but when it comes to the fantasy I lie. Of course Im single. Im 25 years old. I immigrated to Australia with my family. Im so attracted to you. I think you will find some lies are better for business, but it is important to be consistent so you dont get caught out.

    As for life. Everyone tells white lies and anyone who thinks they dont is probably not paying much attention to when they do.

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    I lie so much sometimes I don't even realize til a few days later and then have a good laugh about it. Depends how I feel, I might be honest about the basics because I get lazy and don't feel like making some back story up, but then other times I don't even know where my lies are coming from lol I agree that customers don't deserve to know the truth about me, why so they can have that little power over me?

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    They don't usually ask me anything personal anyways. They're too busy focused on other things.
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    I definitely don't lie about meeting up, extras in the private room, etc.. but I do amuse myself with making up shit. Here on Guam you get so sick and tired of the same question (and for girls that have been here you know exactly what I'm talking about) "How did you end up on Guam?" "really?" "No I don't believe you" "tell me why you're REALLY here" "No, REALLY?" "Why are you still here?" "Why did you decide to move halfway across the world then, do you have no family?" I got tired of wanting to pull my hair out hearing this from every guy I would go up to all night so yes, I make up what I can to avoid it by saying something like I was married to a navy guy and we got divorced, I decided to stay because I really enjoy the island and our divorce isn't a story I feel comfortable talking about because believe me, they will ask why I got divorced and want to know the whole story, top it off with oh, I have no money and I can't buy a drink/dance for you but I want to know your whole life story before you get up. I also try to make up what I can about how I ended up in Guam when they ask. I found my favorite to be that I was sick of the long flight to Guam and I really REALLY wanted a cigarette so I lit up in the bathroom, got caught and was a terrorist threat so they threw me off the plane with a parachute and I landed on Guam, I also say it was my first skydiving experience, lol.

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    Just so long as the lies are fun and entertaining, it's all good!

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    ^^^ 'white lies' which support your 'stripper persona' are pretty much expected. Of course you're single.

    However, IMHO at least, dancers need to be very careful about utilizing lies in regard to direct or implied promises to customers. Here I'm speaking about allowing a false impression to exist that you are truly personally interested in a customer in order to perpetuate his 'regular' customer spending on you. I'm speaking about allowing a false impression to exist that you're willing to provide OTC physical interaction, physical interaction in the private dance / VIP / champagne room etc. which you have no intention of actually providing etc. Mainstream business ethics calls this 'false advertising'. And while there won't be any official 'enforcement' efforts if you do it, disappointed customers have been known to extract their own 'enforcement' measures ... i.e. possibilities stemmning from ITC 'incidents' to OTC stalking, to extreme cases of assaults, rape etc.

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    I lie about everything about MYSELF and who I really am, but I won't lie about the fact that I will meet them outside or that they have a chance. It's just a pain in the ass (and stressful!) to have them endlessly chasing you thinking they have a chance.

    I think it is ok to lie about yourself to protect yourself, but not ok to lead them on - that can lead to trouble, and an angry customer can turn into a scary stalker.

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    I don't lie about sex, meeting OTC, phone numbers or anything that involves my direct interaction with the customer.

    Aside from that, anything goes.

    Fantasy is fun. He tells me about his 5 sportscars and million dollar watch, and as long as he's paying, I tell him about steamy nights nude modeling in Peru. Or wherever. It's fun.

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    I lie that I am in school, and am vague with the area I live in, what I study, etc. When they try to get personal I gloat about my 3 cats forever or go off about freaky S&M stuff
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    You are a business. Full stop.
    Screw this honesty stuff and hustle the hell out of them.

    At the end of the day, 99% of them just wanna get in your pants. You're a stripper, you're expected to lie and hustle - whether you're sweet about it or a hard bitch that strings them along.

    If they're straight out assholes, I say scam them/makes false promises. They're too dumb. They think can get with YOU. So they deserve all of it!!!!

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    A few weeks ago I had this convo in VIP:

    him: will you come back to my hotel with me?
    me: no sorry babe
    him: WHY CANT YOU JUST LIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE???
    me: OK then, I'll come back with you
    him: really?!!! **BIG BIG SMILE** ok let's have another hour then

    at the end of the night he actually waited for me...COME ON MAN YOU ASKED ME TO LIE...!!

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    Default Re: Lying to Customers?

    Do you lie to customers?
    Yes.

    Like telling them you will meet them outside the club for sex but you need half the money now.
    No.

    All the other things are half truths depending on the customer.

    I have no problem telling someone the area I live in. Sometimes I have a bf and sometimes I don't.

    Customers ask all the time "Let's do a private."

    The answer is always "I don't do privates."

    There is no luring on my part.




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    it depends. sometimes i'm honest and sometimes i make up stories. it's good fun and it keeps me entertained. i don't lie about my age, but i lie about my birthday, relationship status, education, hobbies...the things i am very honest about aren't personal

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    Mmmm... I may lie about things to protect my privacy/ safety... and really depends on the customer but definitely never would lie about meeting a dude outside of the club or promising extras, etc..

    Also I have really found that sincerity works in my favor. I am naturally pretty shy anyhow but I would rather spend time on the guys who may at first seem like a hard sell and try to make them into a loyal regular by being more of the "sweet sincere" girl than put up with a constant stream of assholes who tip little or nothing anyway and rarely pay for a dance to begin with.

    That's just me, though.

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    It depends on the lie. If you're telling customers that you've got breast cancer or a tumor then you're fucked up. If it's the standard "stripper white lies" you're conscience is fine. I'm honest with my customers. They all know I only fuck young metalhead stud puppies with long hair.
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