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    Default Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    So I just got an email from an indy listing site that made me stop and really think hard about payment processing.

    I currently have two indy payment processors (only one that I actually use, as the other has been having issues; y'all know about it already, so I won't expound on it). I have a CCBill subaccount that is now my primary indy processor.

    The thing that is confusing me is that indy sites that offer a payment processor do not allow for girls to take payments through another site; the email that I got specified that we're only allowed to list personal payment processors, but not payments like big-box token/credit sites, or other indy sites. My issue with this is that I don't want to have to sign up for a processing account on every single indy site that I list on. It creates confusion for my customers (many of whom follow me from Chaturbate), and it prevents me from being able to make enough on any one account to reach payout every period. When someone contacts me from a site other than the one that I have the CCBill subaccount for, I link them to my CCBill subaccount page rather than the indy site itself. I don't know how to get my own personal processor; I only have a tumblr. I can't afford my own domain or professional website; I can't afford the $700 Visa fee on CCBill, and my understanding of Zombaio is that it's pretty difficult to get it integrated into a website. I haven't looked into Payoneer or Paxum, but I'd prefer a processor that allows my customers to pay with a credit card without having an extra account somewhere just to pay me.

    I guess my main question is: do I just not list on sites like VirtualXGirls or CamWealth sites, since I have a CCBill subaccount with another indy site?



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    Default Re: Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    You can list on VirtualXGirls, but they do not allow you to advertise your other payment methods. CamWealth also has the same policy. It seems like CamWealth is more like a studio, but maybe other girls can offer more insight about it. I think VirtualXGirls allows you to keep 85% of your earnings, and CamWealth gives you 65%. Judging by CamWealth's language on their signup page, you are expected to work for them and only for them. If they find out you're using another payment processor they can ban you and delete your account. I just started Domino's Damsels.com, and I'm offering 85% payout for the next two months. After that, it will be 75%. On Domino's Damsels, you're allowed to advertise other payment processors if you want to. Pretty much anything goes. There are a few rules though, mainly because of CCBill's review policy. They don't allow mention of illegal topics, daddy/daughter or other incest, scat/pee, etc.

    Let me know what you find out - I like to sign up for as many advertising sites as possible. I just got on VirtualXGirls, but I think I'll skip CamWealth because they seem pretty strict about their policies.

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    Default Re: Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    Most websites that list indy camgirls, have their own CC processor and DON'T allow you to accept payments outside from their website (whether it is your own processor or other website processor) because they are paying to advertise you, and they are bringing you clients, so it is obvious that they want their cut
    Xvirtualgirls intoduced Zombaio but it is not mandatory, they still allow girls to accept payments on their own website ( provided that it is not Paypal)
    Websites like camwealth don't allow you to advertise other websites, they will ban you and won't pay you if you find out that you are ''stealing'' clients
    Best solution is to get your own website / processor ( a domain + hosting is not that expensive) you can create a website using a WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET editor and pay someone to integrate zombaio( no set up fees and you can accept visa too) for you.
    If you really don't want to do all this just sign up to some reliable indy website that bring you clients but take a % from your earnings

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    Nope just received an email from Virtualxgirls about new up and coming changes. Starting Oct 1 2012 no more billing will be provided:


    Over the last few months I have been experimenting with the directory while implementing new features. I have received alot of positive feedback as well as some negative feedback. Taking all of these things into consideration I have decided to make some changes to the directory. The changes reflect the overall consensus that independent cam models want to be independent. I have no problem with that and I have no interest in micromanaging adults. These changes will become effective as of October 1, 2012. This should allow everyone time to transition into the new changes.

    1. VirtualXGirls will no longer be a free listing directory. All Standard profiles will be $5/month (with a link back placed on your website or blog).

    2. Featured profiles will be open to All verified models paying a fee of $20/month.

    3. Models without their own website (or no link back) will be allowed to be listed for a fee of $10/month.

    4. Payment processing will no longer be offered through VirtualXGirls. (If you currently have a subaccount, please contact me for information regarding this)

    5. Payment options section will be removed. It is your responsibility to advise customers of your payment options upon contact, or display it on your own website.


    Other Changes

    6. Categories/tags will be added so that visitors can sort/browse through listings faster and find what they want.

    7. Model status/headline on each profile. This means you can update your current status.

    8. Skype Status icon - I am working on a solution to show Skype online/offline status on profiles.

    9. Link your wishlist(s)

    Things which will not be affected at this time

    10. Review System

    11. Specials posting

    12. Page ranking of profiles

    13. Verification

    Unfortunately no directory or website is perfect, nor will it appeal to the masses. I feel that these changes are fair and reasonable for independent performers looking to expand their businesses. If anyone disagrees, you are within your right to disagree and move on if you feel this does not work for you.

    I will be sending out a notice once the system is in place to begin taking payments for listing fees. ***There may be the opportunity for discounts on multiple-month purchases.

    Thank you for choosing VirtualXGirls! If you have any questions or need help, please contact me here.

    Admin



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    Default Re: Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    Nope just received an email from Virtualxgirls about new up and coming changes. Starting Oct 1 2012 no more billing will be provided:


    Over the last few months I have been experimenting with the directory while implementing new features. I have received alot of positive feedback as well as some negative feedback. Taking all of these things into consideration I have decided to make some changes to the directory. The changes reflect the overall consensus that independent cam models want to be independent. I have no problem with that and I have no interest in micromanaging adults. These changes will become effective as of October 1, 2012. This should allow everyone time to transition into the new changes.

    1. VirtualXGirls will no longer be a free listing directory. All Standard profiles will be $5/month (with a link back placed on your website or blog).

    2. Featured profiles will be open to All verified models paying a fee of $20/month.

    3. Models without their own website (or no link back) will be allowed to be listed for a fee of $10/month.

    4. Payment processing will no longer be offered through VirtualXGirls. (If you currently have a subaccount, please contact me for information regarding this)

    5. Payment options section will be removed. It is your responsibility to advise customers of your payment options upon contact, or display it on your own website.


    Other Changes

    6. Categories/tags will be added so that visitors can sort/browse through listings faster and find what they want.

    7. Model status/headline on each profile. This means you can update your current status.

    8. Skype Status icon - I am working on a solution to show Skype online/offline status on profiles.

    9. Link your wishlist(s)

    Things which will not be affected at this time

    10. Review System

    11. Specials posting

    12. Page ranking of profiles

    13. Verification

    Unfortunately no directory or website is perfect, nor will it appeal to the masses. I feel that these changes are fair and reasonable for independent performers looking to expand their businesses. If anyone disagrees, you are within your right to disagree and move on if you feel this does not work for you.

    I will be sending out a notice once the system is in place to begin taking payments for listing fees. ***There may be the opportunity for discounts on multiple-month purchases.

    Thank you for choosing VirtualXGirls! If you have any questions or need help, please contact me here.

    Admin



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    Default Re: Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    no worries on my end about the threadjack I get passionate about my money too!



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    Default Re: Indy Payment Processing Issues/Question

    It does look like it. ^-^ As it turns out, it's going to be a non-issue for me anyway. I don't have what it takes to be a full-time camgirl, so I'm going to be cutting back a LOT, and probably not listing on any sites other than the one I've got the subaccount with (so that I have something to use outside of Chaturbate and ELM, which is where I make most of my money anyway). I seem to be horrible as an indy girl. I think my post also came across wrong (my fault entirely); either that or I have weird expectations.

    ANYway... thanks for the responses. I appreciate being able to ask a question and get legitimate responses to it. This is a great community to be a part of.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOneGirl View Post
    It does look like it. ^-^ As it turns out, it's going to be a non-issue for me anyway. I don't have what it takes to be a full-time camgirl, so I'm going to be cutting back a LOT, and probably not listing on any sites other than the one I've got the subaccount with (so that I have something to use outside of Chaturbate and ELM, which is where I make most of my money anyway). I seem to be horrible as an indy girl. I think my post also came across wrong (my fault entirely); either that or I have weird expectations.

    ANYway... thanks for the responses. I appreciate being able to ask a question and get legitimate responses to it. This is a great community to be a part of.
    Sometimes the sign of true strength is knowing when to walk away. I too have come to a cross roads so to speak and Im gonna give this two more months. At that point I shall be able to access if all the hard work was worth it and if it will pay off. And Im sure your not "horrible" at it. It just may not be the right time. Im working on other projects at the moment. Things that I've been neglecting because of my summer of "hardcore" camming. But I suspect that if I switch my focus a bit I'll breathe easier. Equaling more money.



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