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    last night was just in generarl really fucking odd i went out and treid out and one of the two clubs we have in town, and I go a really bland no......

    pretty much was told by the owner I did not have the look he wanted. Which I did not try to bug him but I just mentioned to him you know I really, want to get into doing this more just what exactly do you mean by that do I need more experince, do i need to smile more. Anything, and he really just kept brushing me off.

    I nearly went home very close to tears but I was no in the mood to give up on situation quite that easily .....
    so I wen out to the other club in town one that I had been into before and had been told pretty much that they had too many girls working there at the time.

    Well I saw some girls outside and I tired tojust walk over and talk to them about my experince and what I could take from it.

    they were super nice and kept asking if I was going to dance which lol I had the lame thing of saying well I really want to...some how through an odd turn of events I ended up meeting with the owner tellng him that I do burlesque on the side, and that he is semi interested in starting something up with ladies that do burlesque I am suppoused to call him up tomorrow about 1:30 to set up a time to come in and talk with him in person...about dancing and persuing burlesque revenues. lol so I am not sure what all to do...I would be lying if i said I was not nervous about doing an audtion but I think I need to flat out be more honest about this really and truly is something I want to learn how to do really a lot.

    and mayb do some thing befor hand like try to self tan myself a bit before tha audtion, try my danmdest to slow my dancing down and not rush...maybe not do floor work the first time around. lol sorry was up reading blogs last night.....on tips so thinking aloud i guess.

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    My club rejected a woman because her nipples pointed straight down and told her it was because she looked too nervous. Had she positioned herself differently to keep her nips in the right angles they probably would have hired her. Maybe if you post pics you'd get more useful feedback.

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    Tell me you didn't wear that wig to the audition.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    Did you wear the blonde wig when you auditioned? It looks a little disguise-y. How did you dance? What outfit did you wear and what songs did you play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Tell me you didn't wear that wig to the audition.
    That was my first thought too.

    Your makeup also looks very severe, and I can see why they didn't pick you up if you didn't smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Glitzkisses View Post
    pretty much was told by the owner I did not have the look he wanted. Which I did not try to bug him but I just mentioned to him you know I really, want to get into doing this more just what exactly do you mean by that do I need more experince, do i need to smile more. Anything, and he really just kept brushing me off.

    I nearly went home very close to tears
    You're going to need to develop a way thicker skin to make it as a stripper. You'll have customers rejecting you every night, sometimes rudely and sometimes over minor things, and you just can't take it personally to the point of verging on tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    You're going to need to develop a way thicker skin to make it as a stripper. You'll have customers rejecting you every night, sometimes rudely and sometimes over minor things, and you just can't take it personally to the point of verging on tears.
    I don't really think I need to grow any more of a tougher skin at all really since as i mentioned before I did not actually cry I just did find it difficult to deal with but I mantined myself just fine. And went on to the other club in town and am planning on talking to the owner further tomrrow

    As to the comments on the wig NO did not wear that when i went in yesterday for the adution and I don't intend on wearing a wig for the auditon but I do pefer to wear a wig due to the fact that I would like to have a differt persona to me when working at the club.

    The reasoning for the make up being thicker was because we were doing a in prompt photo shoot for the burlesque troupe I am in, and I am used to using brighter color when I do photo shoots simply cause it is more noticeable.

    And not that I am trying to be mean or anything but I had multiple girls and people tell those photos came out nicely so.....ar you saying it does not.

    I apolgozie if I seem a little overly sensative to this, but yes that is how I am. I don't have a tendanyc of hiding my feelings, and I do have a hard time with my self estem....mostly cause I have a lot of mental issues in my life that only just until recently I am trying to actually do something medically for to help out with it.

    I do realize that I seem a little more disapointed about this then I ought to, but the way I handle and manage my emtions is simply different from other people I realize that this is tough world and it will be challenging but, no I did not burst into tears over this I took what he said and tried to get tips on possibly bettering the situation and when I could not do that I tried to do the best i can to improve on it myself.
    It might sound pretty basic but for me, there was a time in my life when just dealing with things to that degree was hard for me. So I feel good about myself and the fact that I was hard headed enough not to just give up and that I could still be working on having something happen even so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChefKitty View Post
    Did you wear the blonde wig when you auditioned? It looks a little disguise-y. How did you dance? What outfit did you wear and what songs did you play?
    I wore a black and red kind teddy corset piece, I did a little bit of green eye shadwo with blue masquera i know that sounds like a lot, but to me when I see myself with its hardly noticeable unless you are in a VERY well lit room. I had three layers of panties on which I don't if it was over kill or not....
    I am used to doing burlesque so I am used to doing layers. One of the other girls I know that works there said it was kind of disapointing that I did not even try to do any pool work even though I did tell people that I had NEVER done this before.

    Yes I have been told multiple times by many people that I do need to smile more, it seems to come off more so in photos that I don't like to smile, I guess as puny as it sounds for me to say I dis like smiling at least in photos that I do....since I have a tendancy to over smile a lot. and I see more gum line then I do actual teeth and just looks stupid.

    I know that probably none of you are probably aiming to, and I totally realize that this industy is tough but did you see any nice qualities in my photos at all? I think i was concerned about not looking like myself at that point, since these were going to go straight from photoshoot to facebook for the troupes group page....

    maybe I am not the best with my make up skills maybe I need to work on slowing down my dancing to a slower pace, maybe I need to dress differently, mayb I need improvement on my pole skills.

    not entirely sure, all I know is what I mentioned before, yes I am new yes I might even be slightly akward about things and take things that other girls might a little more to heart then others. And I hate that about me I really, really do I hate dealing with having anxiety and depression and possibl ADHD issues that I seriously had no idea I had until recently as year ago. Cause I know it sounds like to a lot of people its me making excuses but in a lot of ways its not it really and truly is hard to do even just simple things with this kinds of stuf but I don't see how I can be seen as lay or making excuses when I never want to give up on something.

    I am always then the one thats willing to fight to tooth and nail to get the job done! to do what I set my mind to...so that I can learn and feel better about myself. So at least I have that going for me. It might take me longer to get what I want in this industry but I am willing to do what I can to do it!

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    What I'm having trouble understanding is why you were so nervous since you've been an entertainer in some capacity for some time.
    Nobody here thinks you're ugly. You look fine in your pics.. maybe you don't need to focus on -not- looking like yourself. None of us were at your audition so it's hard to say what you did wrong or right.

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    its hard to pin point it was mostly a cumlass of that I knew I did not know as much as the other girls, and when i was up there I did not feel poorly but when i got down and was given a very blah response back....thats more when my anxiety kicked in for the most part i tried to go up there and have fun whichI did.....

    I do want to try and not look exactly like myself if I do get the job just for my own personal reasons which I have heard is not so un common. a thing

    I think its natural for anyone to feel anxious about a situation its just more so of a callenge for me to actually take back control not that i can't its just a little bit more trciky for me in some situations.

    lol and I am trying to also mention that it did not all turn out that poorly cause i am speaking with another club in town, so it could not really have been that bad.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Glitzkisses View Post
    I don't really think I need to grow any more of a tougher skin at all really since as i mentioned before I did not actually cry I just did find it difficult to deal with but I mantined myself just fine. And went on to the other club in town and am planning on talking to the owner further tomrrow

    As to the comments on the wig NO did not wear that when i went in yesterday for the adution and I don't intend on wearing a wig for the auditon but I do pefer to wear a wig due to the fact that I would like to have a differt persona to me when working at the club.

    The reasoning for the make up being thicker was because we were doing a in prompt photo shoot for the burlesque troupe I am in, and I am used to using brighter color when I do photo shoots simply cause it is more noticeable.

    And not that I am trying to be mean or anything but I had multiple girls and people tell those photos came out nicely so.....ar you saying it does not.

    I apolgozie if I seem a little overly sensative to this, but yes that is how I am. I don't have a tendanyc of hiding my feelings, and I do have a hard time with my self estem....mostly cause I have a lot of mental issues in my life that only just until recently I am trying to actually do something medically for to help out with it.

    I do realize that I seem a little more disapointed about this then I ought to, but the way I handle and manage my emtions is simply different from other people I realize that this is tough world and it will be challenging but, no I did not burst into tears over this I took what he said and tried to get tips on possibly bettering the situation and when I could not do that I tried to do the best i can to improve on it myself.
    It might sound pretty basic but for me, there was a time in my life when just dealing with things to that degree was hard for me. So I feel good about myself and the fact that I was hard headed enough not to just give up and that I could still be working on having something happen even so.
    Honestly, in the last photo you look like a little old grandmother. I'm not saying you're old, but the combination of the heavy ringed eyeshadow plus the scarf gives that impression.

    Blue mascara and green eyeshadow is not the kind of look SC managers are looking for. If you have limited makeup skills, go for something simple and fresh.

    Examples:
    Sexy-Date-Night-Makeup-Anna-Saccone.jpg
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    date-worthy-hair-makeup-carrieunderwood-02.jpg

    You have time to learn how to glam it up. Don't wear bizarre makeup. Often a manager has a hard time looking past the bizarre makeup and will automatically dismiss you if she or he can't "see" you.

    Keep in mind, the excuse "you just don't have the look" usually means 1 or 3 things:

    1. You don't have the "correct" body type. Was there a vast mix or were most of the girls slender? Were most of them curvy? Implants? No? Some clubs cater to a specific type, others don't.
    2. You didn't look polished enough. Refer to bizarre makeup explanation.
    3. You didn't do well in the actual dancing part / looked extremely awkward onstage.

    There is also a final explanation. Some clubs have a policy of "if the girl is brave enough to get onstage, we will let her". So sometimes even if they let you audition, they have no intention of really hiring you.

    I saw you mentioned anxiety, depression and ADHD. I have severe ADD and it never stopped me. I have quite a few friends who dance with anxiety issues. As far as the depression, I would imagine it to be the biggest disadvantage of the three. Get that in check before you work in a club or trust me, it will be hell for you.

    This is all meant as constructive.

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    Hmmm well, your body physique looks okay, but that wig is ridiculous. Your not trying out for pulp fiction scene here.
    As some veteran girls have said on here several times, don't overthink this shit. Smile, yes, smile! It might be super hard but this is a hospitality/entertainment industry. Even if you can only muster a Mona Lisa smile it will go a long way with the men folks, lol. Just be coy. Coyness is a great power for women. It means flirting but not being desperate. It makes them chase you. Men love a chase and before they know it they;re handing over their tens and twenties Woot woot!

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    to be honest I feel a littl guilty you are using that reply since in hind site I did realize it was not as better phrased as I could have made it which is hence why I did delete and try to re write the thing.

    a lot of my friends did like that look....since it was me trying to go for a glam bollywood kind of feel but yes my girlfriend did mention to me the make up was a little over done, I don't intend to have it be that way and to be fair I would totally love learning how to do better techinques with make up.....but I just am not as well versed in that kind of thing.

    lol that and I do have tendany of liking colorful, stricking and daring looks in make up and fashion

    and to be fair you do see more daring kind of stuff out of models that do make up out in the malls nowadays. So its hard to tell for someone like me is runway model look somrething thats attractive or sutle more nicer? For me I guess its difficult cause I do like both a bit.

    I think it could be a toss up of 2 or 3 that metioned, I doubt it was 1 cause there were a lot of girls there that had slender and small bodies and titsl, I am un sure as to if my dancing looked awkard cause I have been told by many people that I am a natural dancer and that I do..do it well. But maybe it was the fact that I have never actually tried to do "Exotic dance" that showed....the setting of where you and what you are doing does kind of make a difference to someone.

    Maybe since I was using personal longerie, and actual heels and not stipper heels and cheaply done make-up I looked like a stripper wanna be or that I was trying to hard.
    lol it probably does not help that my girly time of the month has not gone away yet...you don't feel to sexy.....when carrying around femaine hygine products.

    usually my depression is well under check thanks to be being on meds and if I am around supportive postive people, which lol turst me I did not have when I was bck in st.louis hardly at all. But it certainly does not help that I want do do this as muh as I do and my mother is always judging me for it and wishing some how I was not. Which I am sure will not stop fully even if I do get a job.
    She thinks its embrassing, in the fact that I can't count it as a real job, or that if I wanted to go back to school to be a vet tech I feel more comfertable about hiding it in a persona and using a wig.

    All of which I do think I can do but I need to realized that wearing make up and wearing a wig is not easy to do, and they are skills that you have to learn how to do.

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    Runway / high fashion looks are not what men are looking for, or what they are generally attracted to. Your job is to make yourself as sexually appealing as possible, physically.

    ALWAYS wear a professional looking audition outfit, whether it be a SIMPLE bikini (solid colour is always good) , a short DANCER dress (refer to snaz75.com for examples, it's a basic example), pretty lingerie (bra and panty set) or a dancer gown if that's appropriate. Solid colour regular heels are fine for an audition but professional stripper heels are better.

    A wig is fine, if it's a HIGH QUALITY wig that doesn't look obviously fake.

    Also is this a topless of nude club?

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    If you ignore this girls stupid expressions and self-boob licking, the moves she shows are good basic dancer moves. The hip swaying, little butt shakes etc are good newbie moves.

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    most of the club in Missouri are only topless its one of the lovely odd ball weird ass law things we have going on in this state sadly.You are allowed to wear a g string that covers your front and a tiny bit of your back, and you can be top less as long as its in a stip club and as long club is not selling booze other wise if they are doing so its techically agansit the state laws.

    I had to deal with this crap all the time since I did do burlesque shows in st.louis and we were forever dealing with dumb crap as to what was street legal. Course all the dancers perfered working in East st.louis anyway since it was over river and in IL which you can totally nude in their clubs.

    but yes the club I will be potentially trying out for later is a top less bar. What I might try to see if I can do for starters is instead of going stragiht to being a dancer, try being a promo girl before hand and my try to brush up my skills a little better, and invest in some decent stripper shows and g strings as well as some nice outfits to wear, bearing in mind that with doing this less is more in the make up department.

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    most of the club in Missouri are only topless its one of the lovely odd ball weird ass law things we have going on in this state sadly.You are allowed to wear a g string that covers your front and a tiny bit of your back, and you can be top less as long as its in a stip club and as long club is not selling booze other wise if they are doing so its techically agansit the state laws.

    I had to deal with this crap all the time since I did do burlesque shows in st.louis and we were forever dealing with dumb crap as to what was street legal. Course all the dancers perfered working in East st.louis anyway since it was over river and in IL which you can totally nude in their clubs.

    but yes the club I will be potentially trying out for later is a top less bar. What I might try to see if I can do for starters is instead of going stragiht to being a dancer, try being a promo girl before hand and my try to brush up my skills a little better, and invest in some decent stripper shows and g strings as well as some nice outfits to wear, bearing in mind that with doing this less is more in the make up department.

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    It's going to be harder for you if you continue to over-think things. Mediocrity has some great tips about SIMPLIFYING your makeup, outfit, dancing. You do NOT have to do pole work or anything show-y.

    Keep in mind always that stripping is NOT burlesque. They are two different animals.

    The ladies here are right- strippers have to put up with a lot of bullshit. I'll be blunt, even before admitting it you sound like you're dealing with some hard anxiety and esteem issues. You wouldn't even have had to say anything. I would hope that a job like this would not hinder you in your journey to getting healthy.

    What are you doing to support yourself now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Glitzkisses View Post

    but yes the club I will be potentially trying out for later is a top less bar. What I might try to see if I can do for starters is instead of going stragiht to being a dancer, try being a promo girl before hand and my try to brush up my skills a little better, and invest in some decent stripper shows and g strings as well as some nice outfits to wear, bearing in mind that with doing this less is more in the make up department.
    Doing any other job besides dancing really won't do much to prepare for dancing. Most of us had even less entertaining experience starting out than you have.

    Get a pair of stripper heels ASAP. they're not expensive and they'll pay for themselves within your first night wearing them.

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    currently I am not employed which is why I do have a fair amount of stress. I want to go back to school to pick my vet tehc stuff back up..... I am getting better health wise but i feel rathhe horid that I have nothing to really occupy my time aside from filling out applications.

    I did meet with programs here in town that could lend me a hand in finding a job...and the manager of one of the clubs seems really nice letting me speak with him, he seems to really get that i want to try and do this...he did recommend to me going to an amature night...which I think is a GOOD idea..the more exposure I have to actually dancing and learning stuff the better.

    He seems to want to work with me and my burlesque troupe about doing a show which I am not really oppoused to lol buas you said burlesque and stripping kind of different I am really just confident and ok with the fact I doing everything in my power to get myself to a better place, and where i am now a lot better then last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Glitzkisses View Post
    I did meet with programs here in town that could lend me a hand in finding a job...and the manager of one of the clubs seems really nice letting me speak with him, he seems to really get that i want to try and do this...he did recommend to me going to an amature night...which I think is a GOOD idea..the more exposure I have to actually dancing and learning stuff the better.
    Stripping is really and truly not that complicated that you need to meet with "programs" (also, wtf is that about?) or expose yourself to the industry for a long period of time. Get a simple and sexy outfit that's easy to take off, do your make up in a normal way, leave the wig at home, and just audition at that club again or go to a different one. That's all it takes!

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    Missouri sucks balls with the new laws. I'm shocked they didn't hire you because when I danced in Springfield as long as you had teeth and were under 200llbs they hired pretty much anything with a vagina that could move.
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    I think that it's probably best to pick only one element in your look that is a bit out there (statement jewelry etc.) and keep the rest safe. I don't know how the girls in your club dress but I think that this video of a playmate might be a good example for you:

    The red stockings are a bit quirky, eye catching and show personality but not in a way that might turn off many customers. The suspenders would allow you to have a little bit of burlesque feeling you might otherwise miss. Maybe you could even try to do some of the moves she does in the video.

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    As to the comments on the wig NO did not wear that when i went in yesterday for the adution and I don't intend on wearing a wig for the auditon but I do pefer to wear a wig due to the fact that I would like to have a differt persona to me when working at the club.
    I understand that you wish to be less recognisable at the club but wigs can be very hard to pull off. Just compare Natalie Portman in a pink wig with Britney Spears in a pink wig

    I think that for a burlesque show it's okay to wear wigs and colourful make up especially since some shows tend to mix humour with a sexy tease but for a stip club it's probably best to stick with more direct sex appeal. I think girls can do a lot with their hair without the need for wigs. Styling your bangs differently, curling your hair if you usually wear it straight, adding hair extensions for volume etc. can be a better disguise than wigs which can actually attract attention.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Glitzkisses View Post
    my girlfriend did mention to me the make up was a little over done, I don't intend to have it be that way and to be fair I would totally love learning how to do better techinques with make up.....but I just am not as well versed in that kind of thing.

    lol that and I do have tendany of liking colorful, stricking and daring looks in make up and fashion

    and to be fair you do see more daring kind of stuff out of models that do make up out in the malls nowadays. So its hard to tell for someone like me is runway model look somrething thats attractive or sutle more nicer? For me I guess its difficult cause I do like both a bit.
    Why not watch youtube videos where Victoria's Secret make-up artists demonstrate makeup styles with the help of VS models. Some of the looks were even used in actual runway shows and commercials so it's gonna pop (which you seem to go for) and it's guaranteed to be attractive to men


    Keep us posted!

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