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    Default A Bit Of A Rant About Cheapskate Clients.

    I'm new here but have no one to rant to, so you guys are it. Sorry about that. Sort of. Lol

    Okay, so I like to hang out with people for money (read escort). I love meeting new people. Don't we all? So, a few weeks ago I received an email from a new client who wanted to see me but I was unable to respond until now. I apologized for not responding due to a family issue that took me away from computer and home. He responded nicely and was still interested. He asked me what my rates were for overnight. I don't have set rates at this time because there isn't much call for overnights, but I did the math. I consider overnight to be twelve hours, which is reasonable as we are pretending that we both will get eight hours of sleep in there somewhere and I'm not going over there to sleep, so I calculate for 12 hours. My hourly rate is $180; multiplied by 12 hours is $2160. I know very few people would actually pay this and know that it is often common to reduce the hourly rate slightly as the hours go up. So, I told him for a total of 12 hours, it would be $1500. It seems pretty reasonable to me seeing as I would have to figure out what to do with my dog during this time and chances are that if the person wanted to start the night at 4pm, then the price would still be the same even though it could be over twelve hours.

    Well, obviously the guy said it was too much and we left it at that last night. I got up this morning to an email that said "how about $250 and I'll even pick you up so you don't have to pay your driver?". My first thought is "what the hell are you smoking? I said my rate was $1500, and you are offering less than a third of that?" Now, I'm hurting for cash as I'm just starting out as an escort again after breaking my hip. I'm now a BBW because of the stupid bed rest and me eating my feelings during that time. But I feel that $1500 isn't asking the world for twelve plus hours. I don't want to lose the client but I don't see how I could get even $500 out of this guy.

    What would you do in this situation to try to talk this guy up to at least $500? Or, would you simply tell him to stick it where the sun doesn't shine and move on?

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    I ask $3000 for an overnight and have had several guys willing to pay that. I think $500 for an overnight is ridiculously low hun, you deserve much more. Even if he was the kind of guy that wanted to fool around for an hour or so then pass out for the night, it would be low. But given he's arguing for rates and trying to lowball you like that, I'm guessing he's the kind of guy that wants his "money's worth". That means he'll probably paw you the minute you walk in the door, fool around for a few hours, then when he's done he'll want you do do something else for him (dance, sexy massage) then when he's ready to go again he'll want to. Then some sleep, probably more sex, sleep, and then he'll want morning sex before he drops you off. I'd imagine for more than half the overnight, you'll be working hard - is that really worth under $100 an hour??


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    your rate is $1500,tell him $1500.he's just trying to haggle you down.he knows full well that that is not enough money for an escort to stay overnight.

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    Default Re: A Bit Of A Rant About Cheapskate Clients.

    I haven’t experienced an overnight but I only would do them with a regular client that I have seen multiple times because well you kind have an idea of how they will act on a date. The most I have done is 3 to two back to back 4 hour dates and even with my back to back 4 hour dates I still walked away with about $1500.

    This guy isn’t a client and definitely not evens a potential client for many things that are pretty clear. The minute he came back with his email trying to talk down your rate he became someone who is not a potential client. Clients respect your rate pay for it and even some will even tip you. Your base rate from what you mentioned early $180 now I know there are some BBW escorts out there and some of them are still able to collect $250 or higher an hour. It all depends on your marketing.

    I am still new at being an independent escort but I have noticed that once you have well professional pictures, a well made website and set rates from 1 hour even up to a weekend or week rate clients will see it and stick within those rates. Calculating your can sometimes feel like a complicated thing, but what I have noticed is that you can get clients at any rate it’s a matter of having a plan B when things are slow for you and also having a solid marketing plan to bring in business.

    I think with an over no one should go any lower then $1,500 for an overnight and this is from 6pm to 6am I mean yes everyone in different cities with different markets and we all have different body types and etc but we need to command the best and the best isn’t cheap.

    Guys who are not clients want to pay less and get everything this is one of those things that we need to put them in their place and stick with that price there is no negotiating, I remember watching “Til Debt Do Us Part” it now comes on in the USA after Suze Orman. and this construction worker was helping a newbie construction work negotiate his jobs he said to always tell them he final rate and learn to walk away if they really want your service they will come. And I think that advice goes for here too
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    OMG they can be so annoying sometimes. There is no way I could put up with one of them all night for $500. If it were me I'd just ignore him and spend more time advertising.

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    $250 for an overnight was an insult. I wouldn't have responded. That's not a serious offer.

    The day before yesterday, I was speaking to guy on the phone who was interested in body rub. I told him it was $150 for the body rub but I was on my way to an appt so he could text me if he wants me to come afterwards. He was like "Ok, I will let you know. Im looking at other ads (like I give a shit). So as soon as I get out my massage appt, I get a text saying "I will give you $105". You think I responded to that shit? Fuck no.

    Well last night I get a text from him asking if I was available. So I text him saying, "Sorry, sir, I dont negotiate my rates." He's like, "I know your prices. I didn't ask that. I asked were you available." I told him, "Sorry, Im booked for the evening" which I was and glad cause he was giving me douche vibes.

    My point is stand firm. I just started escorting after doing only bodyrubs and Im having the same problem with a lot of these men. A good 70% are cheapskates. It kinda hurts my feelings when these guys lowball me but it would really hurt me if I actually took one of these assholes up on their offer. I dont even respond to that mess because I think most of these jerks get their rocks off at the thought of giving us haggling us down over our services. Then they can brag to there friends and review board members about how he got you to do XYZ and every other acronym under the sun for $50 an hr.

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    Default Re: A Bit Of A Rant About Cheapskate Clients.

    Haven't had a client try to lowball, but it definitely puts a damper on my enthusiasm if the client tries to haggle, which happened once. I stood firm and he paid up but it made me not want to see him again.

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    Thanks everyone. I'll stand firm on my prices. The only problem now is the fact that I haven't had a single call in the four months that my ad has been up and I'm in a big pickle of trying to find money to move in three months. My landlord lost ownership on the apartment building I live in and the new owners are kicking everyone out. With my pets, it will be hard enough to find a place but without having money is even more of a problem. I feel like maybe I should become one of those $50 escorts just so I can get by.

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    Well you have to do what you feel you gotta do until a better day. I wont judge and neither should anyone else.

    Hopefully you will be a better situation soon where you wont have to accept any and everything and only be paid what you feel your time is worth.

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    Um.. I dont' care what anyone says. There is no way I would sell my ass for $50. I would go get a job at McDonalds first. Seriously.
    There is a reason why SOME girls charge that little. And there is a reason why you weren't charging that little at first.
    Do you really think that those guys that pay you $50 are going to turn around and pay your full rate after you've raised it? ..I'll answer that .. Hell no.
    I would never pay full price for something I have gotten for next to free - I mean who would? They laugh behind your back in the reviewer's only board and move on to the next girl.

    Everyone is not cut of for the world of escorting. If you're not making money, do not degrade yourself. You may end up doing something you will regret because you seem to be already desperate for the dollar. My suggestion would be to look into bodyrubs and set up another business until your escort business starts to pick up. You do NOT need to lower your rates. Also do not forget that lower rates means lower class clientele. Do you really want to spend time with someone that sees $50 girls? I would not. I prefer men with standards.
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    Very true Lovelyme. I have escorted before and was making a good $16,000 a month, but that was when I was 19 and weighed 132 pounds. I'm now 23 and 200 pounds. I'm just not as confidant as I was I guess.

    Does anyone have a crowbar so I can get my head out of my behind? Lol

    I think the other problem is that I'm only advertising on Backpage because I don't have the money to pay fees at other sites. I have about $6 on my Payoneer card from selling photos but that's it. I was hoping to make at least $500 so I could pay for all the advertising I'd like to do. It's one of those "spend money to earn money" things and I just don't have the money to spend. With all of the emails I replied back to, I didn't get one response besides cheapskate guy. I guess it might be because I won't say what my services are in the emails besides "My services include a relaxing and joyful companionship where we both get to know each other and have time sharing common interests."

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourHollyJade View Post
    Very true Lovelyme. I have escorted before and was making a good $16,000 a month, but that was when I was 19 and weighed 132 pounds. I'm now 23 and 200 pounds. I'm just not as confidant as I was I guess.

    Does anyone have a crowbar so I can get my head out of my behind? Lol

    I think the other problem is that I'm only advertising on Backpage because I don't have the money to pay fees at other sites. I have about $6 on my Payoneer card from selling photos but that's it. I was hoping to make at least $500 so I could pay for all the advertising I'd like to do. It's one of those "spend money to earn money" things and I just don't have the money to spend. With all of the emails I replied back to, I didn't get one response besides cheapskate guy. I guess it might be because I won't say what my services are in the emails besides "My services include a relaxing and joyful companionship where we both get to know each other and have time sharing common interests."
    Backpage is not a bad place to advertise. You just have to screen your ass off. I've gotten some of my best , long time clients from backpage and they are BIG spenders. Backpage gets a lot of traffic. Even the guys that turn their nose up at them still look because I mean it's a free for all, you just never know who / what you're going to see. I always put that I am well reviewed on there so they know that they're dealing with a professional. Backpage is hit or miss depending on where you are located. In my area, it's great for business and I've never had to be explicit with the guys via email. I have a professional website that tells them not to ask such questions via email, over the phone or in person. I say continue to advertise there until you get the money for more ads.

    And while we're on ads, you still have TER - free to post, p411 - free to post, date-check-free to post. So you do have other options that will bring you more business. You just have to know how to use them. Everyone talks about eros - it's not all that great. It's actually hit or miss in my area. I have been doing damn good without eros. I also changed my menu so I don't offer as much as other ladies offer and I'm still doing extremely well (working very very part time).

    When you do have the funds, consider touring (if you don't have any big obligations at home). You can pm me and I'll give you the low down on how to tour. Lots of sites out there that offer next to inexpensive, quality advertising. Good luck.

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    I've never been an escort but if I were you I'd charge at least the 3 grand for overnight. For 200 something I wouldn't spit on the man. I would never touch someone if I were an escort for less than a grand. Think about it, you are live in person. And you are a human being who is probably very attractive and very experienced. Being with you is a privilege and if they can't pay they can find someone on the street corner to give them a hand job for 200 some bucks. I mean honestly, that's like what crack addicts who trick for drugs charge around my area. And with all the things that can happen like you could end up with a creep or end up with someone who has an STD, the most you want to do is protect yourself. So you charge very high prices to weed out the bottom feeders. Plus, you charge what you think you are WORTH. And I guarantee it's a heck of a lot more than what he's willing to pay.

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    This is why I have assistants!!! I'd be such a bitch, but they're sweet as sugar lol. $180 is probably too low no matter where you live - $200/hr minimum, maybe do $150/hh until you're on your feet with advertising? Regardless, you're worth more!!!!

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