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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fURGt...eature=g-all-u

    I just watched this camgirl's video and she basically says to kick out freeloaders(guys who demand things for free) but be nice to people who just sit in your room and don't say anything or just want to talk(squatters).

    I agree with the fact that they may become a customer.....but it is annoying to have guys that just wanna talk all night and not spend $$....sometimes they take up too much energy/can distract me from other guys.

    What do you guys think about this?

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    Im on MFC so what works for me may be totally different for someone else. It can b annoying..i completely understand but ill sit in my room and chit chat with ANYBODY. I feel that even tho they aren't paying me..they are helping me by making convo in my room and letting premiums REALLY see my personality come out. If say I had like 8 prems in my room talking and a cpl guys talking with no interest in tipping, well I'll acknowledge the non payers maybe like every other cpl questions or statements they put out there. That way they can't get pissy for me ignoring them AND if they have ever thought of MAYBE tipping..they still might. So to me it's a win/win.

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    I'm on Adultwork and if I do free at all, I only give the guys 5 mins in 24 hours and even that can feel like an eternity and drain my energy. If they don't have the manners to at least say "hi" to me within the first minute they're history.
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    On a tip based, free chat site like Chaturbate, MyFreeCams, or X-Peeps. I wouldn't kick someone out.

    On a pay-to-play site like Streamate, Adultwork, etc. you have about 5 minutes to decide what your dick wants and then you're gone. It isn't window shopping and you aren't getting anything for free, so they shouldn't sit there and act like they gonna get some. Pshh.







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    howcan you be nice to squatters when ur sat looking beautiful and cheerful on mfc and after 20 minutes not 1 person has spoken to u. at that point in time i would rather have beggars typing open boobs bb at me. thats why i ban squatters. i always announce it first, i call out their names and say like 'bob10292182 i am gonna ban u if u dont interact with me within the nxt 2 minutes' most squatters are in other models rooms at the same time, only waiting for ur countdown 2 finish, many of them are guys recording ur show who leave the record on and go out and others are guys using u as background noise whilst working. they should ALL be PAYING for the priviledge.

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    O ya i totally just realized i read the post wrong. So my answer up top doesn't exactly make sense. sry

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    I actually agree with her, to a point.

    I think that everyone would agree that freeloaders (as she describes them) should be introduced to the banhammer ASAP.

    But squatters can stay as long as they want, as long as they aren't trying to monopolize my attention. There are guys that just.....sit....saying nothing, really, doing nothing...why would you bother to kick them out? I will only kick out the guys that are causing an issue, whether that is by being rude, by making demands, whatever. If someone isn't causing a problem, you can actually CREATE problems by kicking them out for no reason.

    The guys that sit and say very little, or chat a little bit and then leave you alone to deal with the room are GREAT. They bump up your room numbers, for one thing, and I have found over and over again, in every area of my life, that men want something that other men want. There have been so many studies done on this phenomenon - men think that if no one else wants a girl, she must have no value, therefore, they don't want her either - and vice versa. So a guy coming into an empty room is more likely to think you aren't worth it, then if he comes into a crowded room. Having squatters bulk up the numbers helps.
    For another thing, I've found that being a little too ban-happy can make you look like a bitch. It pops up in the room when someone is banned (but not kicked, funnily enough), so the other guys in the room can see when you are banning someone, and I've found that if you are just banning the ones that are mean/demanding/rude, they accept it, but if you ban EVERYONE for just not taking you pvt within 5 minutes, you are just after the money, and that's not a nice thought. It may be true...LOL...but its still not nice for guys to have to face the fact that you just want money. Obvious exceptions to this are if you are a dom, especially if you do FinDom.

    And finally, they CAN become great actual customers. I've had guys hang out for months being fairly silent, and then suddenly they take me for an hour long pvt - I've even been told that they only like to do really long ones, but can't afford to do it very often...and they only take the girls that don't mind them hanging out a bit. For me, dealing with a squatter once or twice a week for a couple months, then making $100 off him in one sitting is as cost effective as only taking the guys that go pvt RIGHT NOW...but might only stay around for 5 minutes and make you $7.50. In fact, it's far MORE cost effective.

    I will say, though, that I will tell guys that they cannot monopolize the conversation. If they want to hang out, crack the occasional joke, chime in on other conversations, and shut the hell up when I am talking to other people, that's fine. If they attempt to sit in free and have a long, personal conversation, I consider them a freeloader, and off they go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine22 View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fURGt...eature=g-all-u

    I just watched this camgirl's video and she basically says to kick out freeloaders(guys who demand things for free) but be nice to people who just sit in your room and don't say anything or just want to talk(squatters).

    I agree with the fact that they may become a customer.....but it is annoying to have guys that just wanna talk all night and not spend $$....sometimes they take up too much energy/can distract me from other guys.

    What do you guys think about this?
    Well the other night I was camming. It just my 3rd night. Totally new. I wasn't getting a lot of traffic. Guys were just walking in and out of my room all night. There was one guy that was in my room for quite a while just talking to me about mundane things. Somehow we got on the subject of SM and I told him the girls only make 35% of profit. Later that night, I announced to the room I was logging off in 10 mins. He said oh let me help you out (since I didn't get any business) and he went into my pvt room for about 20mins just to talk (no sex). I made about $40 (after 35% cut) from that session. All for just being nice.

    I think girls should be nice to 'squatters' lol. That is.. if they are nice to you. It is annoying to sit there talking about boring stuff, when all you can think about is getting money. But I rather sit and talk with a squatter to pass the time, whilst I wait for someone to come in that wants a show. Then just sitting there waiting alone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by toryburch View Post
    Well the other night I was camming. It just my 3rd night. Totally new. I wasn't getting a lot of traffic. Guys were just walking in and out of my room all night. There was one guy that was in my room for quite a while just talking to me about mundane things. Somehow we got on the subject of SM and I told him the girls only make 35% of profit. Later that night, I announced to the room I was logging off in 10 mins. He said oh let me help you out (since I didn't get any business) and he went into my pvt room for about 20mins just to talk (no sex). I made about $40 (after 35% cut) from that session. All for just being nice.

    I think girls should be nice to 'squatters' lol. That is.. if they are nice to you. It is annoying to sit there talking about boring stuff, when all you can think about is getting money. But I rather sit and talk with a squatter to pass the time, whilst I wait for someone to come in that wants a show. Then just sitting there waiting alone.
    Just a quick, off topic, reminder. You are not allowed to discuss payouts with customers. If SM catches you telling someone that you only get 35%, you will be suspended, if not banned. They don't want them knowing that, under any circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    Just a quick, off topic, reminder. You are not allowed to discuss payouts with customers. If SM catches you telling someone that you only get 35%, you will be suspended, if not banned. They don't want them knowing that, under any circumstances.
    Oh shit! Really? I didn't know that! My lips are zipped now. I will never say that again. Kinda stupid though. The guy was shocked to hear we make only 35%. He said he now knows why girls get pissed and ban if you don't go pvt after 5 mins in free chat lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by toryburch View Post
    Oh shit! Really? I didn't know that! My lips are zipped now. I will never say that again. Kinda stupid though. The guy was shocked to hear we make only 35%. He said he now knows why girls get pissed and ban if you don't go pvt after 5 mins in free chat lol.
    Yup - tis in the rules....read them carefully! LOL

    And OF COURSE he was pissed!! The guys want to think that they are giving all their money to you, not to the site!! That is precisely why they don't want us discussing it - they don't want customers deciding that they will take their business elsewhere because the site is "taking advantage" of us or anything like that. Most guys assume that we get 100% of what we are given....if only!
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    with that noted^ (sorry for the threadjack!) I've had a couple guys ask to take me off site and send me their email addresses and/or a straight out solicitation. Trap??

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    I'm very attentive and pleasant when guys first enter my room... I smile and greet by name. Free chat for like 5 mins then my clock is ticking... No pvt in 10 mins then you gotta go! Time is money! It's my room so I regulate what's acceptable. Sometimes custies won't take you pvt til they get kicked out. Sugar and spice and I'm not always nice
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    Trap! Some even want to meet in person it's pathetic!

    Quote Originally Posted by housewench View Post
    with that noted^ (sorry for the threadjack!) I've had a couple guys ask to take me off site and send me their email addresses and/or a straight out solicitation. Trap??
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    Quote Originally Posted by toryburch View Post
    Well the other night I was camming. It just my 3rd night. Totally new. I wasn't getting a lot of traffic. Guys were just walking in and out of my room all night. There was one guy that was in my room for quite a while just talking to me about mundane things. Somehow we got on the subject of SM and I told him the girls only make 35% of profit. Later that night, I announced to the room I was logging off in 10 mins. He said oh let me help you out (since I didn't get any business) and he went into my pvt room for about 20mins just to talk (no sex). I made about $40 (after 35% cut) from that session. All for just being nice.

    I think girls should be nice to 'squatters' lol. That is.. if they are nice to you. It is annoying to sit there talking about boring stuff, when all you can think about is getting money. But I rather sit and talk with a squatter to pass the time, whilst I wait for someone to come in that wants a show. Then just sitting there waiting alone.
    thing is he was talking to you and making your room more fun. hes not a squatter in my opinion,in my opinion squatters are the 1s who sit and do nothing, no chat, no tip, no anything for hours on end every single day.

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    I get annoyed with the guys who just sit there and stare at me all day without chatting. But I don't usually ban the chatters. I have a few 'free chat regulars' who I engage in smalltalk with, like one guy who stops by every Sunday to discuss the newest Breaking Bad episode. lol. I don't really mind, as it's a way to pass the time in between privates. Besides, I've had chatty free-loader dudes suddenly surprise me with 30-minute exclusives out of nowhere, so it sometimes pays off (sometimes).

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    For the past few weeks, I've had two guys sitting in my room who never say anything. They both talked the first night they were in, and they tipped (not a lot, but they tipped), but neither has spoken a word or tipped a single token since. This is on Chaturbate, where you can organize your userlist by tokens (the ones with the most tokens are at the top of the list), and they are ALWAYS at the top of the list, even on the night that I made 2k tokens, they were both above me in the list. So they're sitting there with a shit-ton of tokens, not talking or tipping. I've decided that I'm banning both of them the next time they show up in my room, because I'm sick of it.



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    At first I thought this said "Be nice to squirters" LOL!!!
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    yes!!!! PLEASE!!!
    ban everybody, kick them out, piss them off, be a biatch to them,,
    whatever you gotta do so they stop coming to see you.
    So I can finally have 500 people in my room everyday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeenageAnnie View Post
    thing is he was talking to you and making your room more fun. hes not a squatter in my opinion,in my opinion squatters are the 1s who sit and do nothing, no chat, no tip, no anything for hours on end every single day.
    I agree. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. But guys just walk in and out of my room all the time. I don't get a lot of traffic. So talking to one of two dudes while waiting for someone to come in and go pvt doesn't really bother me. It only bothers me when the conversation is boring.




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    double post!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    Yup - tis in the rules....read them carefully! LOL

    And OF COURSE he was pissed!! The guys want to think that they are giving all their money to you, not to the site!! That is precisely why they don't want us discussing it - they don't want customers deciding that they will take their business elsewhere because the site is "taking advantage" of us or anything like that. Most guys assume that we get 100% of what we are given....if only!
    Babe, can you point me to where it says this, in the rules? i tried to look for it and couldn't find it.... I am probably just looking in the wrong place. Thanks in advance! xoxox
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    How do you keep track of how long ppl are in when you have a lot of ppl in ur room? Is it just a skill u have to learn and pick up on or is there a trick to it or something?

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    I'm very attentive and pleasant when guys first enter my room... I smile and greet by name. Free chat for like 5 mins then my clock is ticking... No pvt in 10 mins then you gotta go! Time is money! It's my room so I regulate what's acceptable. Sometimes custies won't take you pvt til they get kicked out. Sugar and spice and I'm not always nice

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    How do you keep track of how long ppl are in when you have a lot of ppl in ur room? Is it just a skill u have to learn and pick up on or is there a trick to it or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    I'm very attentive and pleasant when guys first enter my room... I smile and greet by name. Free chat for like 5 mins then my clock is ticking... No pvt in 10 mins then you gotta go! Time is money! It's my room so I regulate what's acceptable. Sometimes custies won't take you pvt til they get kicked out. Sugar and spice and I'm not always nice

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    Most unfortunately, there's no timer on SM, lol) So you have just to keep your eye on them.

    As for me, I have it this way:
    When a random guy (meaning, not one of my regulars) enters the chat, I always say "Hello, %username%, how are you".

    If he answers me, we have a small talk for several minutes (or until someone else talks to me), then switch my attention to another visitor or to my regulars. It is good to keep your room alive: better when the host is talking and smiling, not just staring at the screen. Also, the guys already in the room would see I am too busy to pay extra attention in the free chat, and buy a pvt.

    If he starts begging for things, I ask him to tip or to buy a show. If he persists, I next and ignore him. If he gets annoying, I ban him or, if I have any regulars in the room, make fun of the beggar. IMHO, trying to persuade a cheapass to spend money on you is a waste of time and energy: if someone wants a show and can afford it, you don't have to convince him to buy it.

    If he doesn't answer, I just ignore him.
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