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    Saw a new client last night, and in the middle of the session he, uhm, requested backdoor stimulation. I've only had one client hint at this once before, but I was too green and too dense to pick up on it. Although this time, the client was clear about what he wanted.

    Would you include this type of request in your rate, or make it a "supplementary option"? He's also interested in further exploration which might mean investing in new equipment. Would you have your client purchase the stuff or would you just add to your kit as a business expense?
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    I personally would make it an added expense. And also have him buy the equipment with the understanding that it may be used with other clients. Good luck!
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    Default Re: Got thrown a curve ball ...

    I would have him buy the equipment, and perhaps make him be the one to keep it and bring it with him each time, so he would know it wasn't being used on other clients too? But, that might not work out if he was coming to see you from his office or something lol. I've never really been asked for that so far. I know one girl that has a rate for regular GFE, and a fetish rate which is higher, and I like that style. That way you could have a fetish rate for all stuff like that combined rather than being like "this costs X, this costs Y" and such.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye View Post
    I personally would make it an added expense. And also have him buy the equipment with the understanding that it may be used with other clients. Good luck!

    Good idea! But I can just imagine opening that convo: "Hey, is it ok if I use your strap-on with another guy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    I would have him buy the equipment, and perhaps make him be the one to keep it and bring it with him each time, so he would know it wasn't being used on other clients too? But, that might not work out if he was coming to see you from his office or something lol. I've never really been asked for that so far. I know one girl that has a rate for regular GFE, and a fetish rate which is higher, and I like that style. That way you could have a fetish rate for all stuff like that combined rather than being like "this costs X, this costs Y" and such.
    My clients usually want more of a girlfriend-type of date, so I was kind of surprised but open to what he wanted. It would be funny to have him running around with his toys in his briefcase. Maybe start a "toy service" and stash client's toys for them like how bars have bottle service?

    I like the separate fetish rate. What's a discreet way of posting that on your site other than saying "fetish rate"? I didn't charge extra last night, even though I should've, since it was kind of outside my usual scope. Also, isn't it a bad idea to negotiate in session, what with trying to avoid discussing money/acts in the same conversation?

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    If you're going to provide that service, as a professional, you should supply the equipment yourself. If you use proper cleaning procedures, there is no harm in using it wherever and on whomever you like. Sometimes a client will bring the equipment himself and surprise you! I've had clients buy their own stuff right before the appointment without even mentioning it to me, and other clients who simply have a favorite toy of their own that they will bring.

    I have my rates structured so that toys (for me or him) are a particular package he can select, so whether he specifies or not, I'll at least have a boy sized glass anal plug with me and my usual toys - if he's specific that he wants toys for boys, I'll bring my strap-on harness and a couple dildos to choose from.

    It's up to you whether or not to buy the supplies, but if you structure your rates accordingly, it's worthwhile to buy the stuff yourself and save your client the trouble. The easier you make it for him, the more likely he is to want to see you again

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    Default Re: Got thrown a curve ball ...

    Thanks Dixie! Especially good advice about making it easy on the client. I'm going to start looking up toys. This is a whole new thing for me. The only toy i have is a little bullet, lol. Can you deduct this stuff on your taxes as "work supplies"?

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    Oh dear, buy with cash as much as possible! You can't deduct dildos unless you have webcamming as your profession. The best strap-on harness is by Spare Parts Hardware - expensive, but comfortable as all get out! To start though, just get a small glass butt plug and a skinny bullet vibrator. If you've got to buy online, use Visa gift cards purchased with cash - every bit of cash you bank you have to report, so avoid avoid avoid!

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Oh and get good toy cleaner! For silicone, don't use silicone based lube; clean glass like your dishes

    So if you want to be with me
    With these things there’s no telling
    We just have to wait and see
    But I’d rather be working for a paycheck
    Than waiting to win the lottery
    Besides maybe this time is different
    I mean I really think you like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    Oh dear, buy with cash as much as possible! You can't deduct dildos unless you have webcamming as your profession. The best strap-on harness is by Spare Parts Hardware - expensive, but comfortable as all get out! To start though, just get a small glass butt plug and a skinny bullet vibrator. If you've got to buy online, use Visa gift cards purchased with cash - every bit of cash you bank you have to report, so avoid avoid avoid!
    Gotcha. But how does your money do stuff like earn interest if you're keeping the bulk of it stashed in cash? And what if you want to do a big purchase say, a downpayment on a car? Do you just show up with a big bag full of bills? Howzabout offshore accounts? ...

    Ooh the Spare Parts harness looks cool! I like the black and red. Jocque or Theo, hmmm...

    Googled silicone lube. Had no idea it melts silicone toys.
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    Pay yourself a salary and treat that like a regular paycheck. never spend more than $9,999 in cash at a time - they have to report it - so guess what my down payment was for my car also don't deposit more than $1k in your account at a time, the bank will flag you. Find an accountant you trust and make a cover business or use taxdomme

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    I mean I really think you like me

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    Charge more, make him buy and keep his toys and be prepared for a possible mess! You my also want to make sure he is your last client of the day. I'm dead serious about this. Lot's of guys who want anal play don't understand what sort of prep may be needed. It's no different than when they shoot an anal scene in a pron movie. Sometimes, shit happens. My ATF escort used to see a guy who begged for a year to use a strap-on on him. When she finally agreed he made such a mess out of the bed that after he left she put all the sheets in a big ball, dumped them in the maid's closet, showered and then left the hotel. Lol, She never stayed there again and she also never saw the guy again. She wasn't going to DNS him, he just never had the nerve to call her again after the mess he made! BTW, her rate back then was $300 and she added $100 for the anal play.
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    I would NEVER embarrass a client that way!!! that is really shameful. Remember, this is a service industry job - would you want your client to embarrass you if something like that happened? no. This is the golden rule - if you agree to do something, do it with grace and class please.

    If your client wants mild anal play, there shouldn't be any real issues - but yes if he wants a strap-on or fisting (I've been elbow deep before, I've never seen a man cum so hard in my life) he needs to be very clean before - make sure to suggest the proper methods - if you don't know them, PM me for details

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    Pay yourself a salary and treat that like a regular paycheck. never spend more than $9,999 in cash at a time - they have to report it - so guess what my down payment was for my car also don't deposit more than $1k in your account at a time, the bank will flag you. Find an accountant you trust and make a cover business or use taxdomme
    Dixie, thanks for the tips, and I've been trying to find an escort-friendly accountant -- this is very cool! Do you work with her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    I would NEVER embarrass a client that way!!! that is really shameful. Remember, this is a service industry job - would you want your client to embarrass you if something like that happened? no. This is the golden rule - if you agree to do something, do it with grace and class please.
    Huh? Who said anything about her treating him badly or embarrassing him? He got what he paid for and left.
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    OMG, Yoda, I hope that never happens when I take care of a client. I would totally die for the both of us! What's DNS? I googled and came up with "domain name service." That's probably not what you meant.

    Is DNS = "Do Not See"? Just guessing.


    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Charge more, make him buy and keep his toys and be prepared for a possible mess! You my also want to make sure he is your last client of the day. I'm dead serious about this. Lot's of guys who want anal play don't understand what sort of prep may be needed. It's no different than when they shoot an anal scene in a pron movie. Sometimes, shit happens. My ATF escort used to see a guy who begged for a year to use a strap-on on him. When she finally agreed he made such a mess out of the bed that after he left she put all the sheets in a big ball, dumped them in the maid's closet, showered and then left the hotel. Lol, She never stayed there again and she also never saw the guy again. She wasn't going to DNS him, he just never had the nerve to call her again after the mess he made! BTW, her rate back then was $300 and she added $100 for the anal play.
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    Yes, DNS means do not see. LOL, she was actually willing to see him again, heck it was good money just to ass-fuck the guy. He didn't even want regular sex or oral! The lady I'm talking about actually did give the guy a prep regimen that he, presumably, ignored. Maybe that's why he was too embarrassed to call her again...lol, easy come, easy go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Huh? Who said anything about her treating him badly or embarrassing him? He got what he paid for and left.
    If when he left he was too embarrassed to contact her again, she lost a client and he was obviously mortified. I'm not saying she treated him badly, but obviously she didn't make him feel comfortable. Regardless of what happens in that room, the escort's job is (if she wants to be successful and retain clients and make lots of money) a customer service one first. My client who received my arm in how bowel? had a bit of an accident. I made no big deal out of it, reminded him it happens all the time, cleaned up appropriately (I was prepared, I use the Liberator Fascinator throw for all appointments), and made certain he was not at all embarrassed and enjoyed himself immensely.

    I didn't say she treated him badly, it's just that I think the escort is the one in control, so when things go sour it is the escort's job to maintain the atmosphere of comfort and continue in providing excellent client service. But that's just my opinion. It works for me, and I make bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Yes, DNS means do not see. LOL, she was actually willing to see him again, heck it was good money just to ass-fuck the guy. He didn't even want regular sex or oral! The lady I'm talking about actually did give the guy a prep regimen that he, presumably, ignored. Maybe that's why he was too embarrassed to call her again...lol, easy come, easy go...
    usually clients don't know the extent of prep work - I'm sure he did one enema, but it takes more than the one to prepare for some real ass-fucking

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    http://www.liberator.com/eng/product...iberator/10342

    Dixie, you are equipped! Never heard of them before but they're on my supply list.

    Sounds like there isn't much that fazes you.

    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    If when he left he was too embarrassed to contact her again, she lost a client and he was obviously mortified. I'm not saying she treated him badly, but obviously she didn't make him feel comfortable. Regardless of what happens in that room, the escort's job is (if she wants to be successful and retain clients and make lots of money) a customer service one first. My client who received my arm in how bowel? had a bit of an accident. I made no big deal out of it, reminded him it happens all the time, cleaned up appropriately (I was prepared, I use the Liberator Fascinator throw for all appointments), and made certain he was not at all embarrassed and enjoyed himself immensely.

    I really like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    I didn't say she treated him badly, it's just that I think the escort is the one in control, so when things go sour it is the escort's job to maintain the atmosphere of comfort and continue in providing excellent client service. But that's just my opinion. It works for me, and I make bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    If when he left he was too embarrassed to contact her again, she lost a client and he was obviously mortified. I'm not saying she treated him badly, but obviously she didn't make him feel comfortable. Regardless of what happens in that room, the escort's job is (if she wants to be successful and retain clients and make lots of money) a customer service one first. My client who received my arm in how bowel? had a bit of an accident. I made no big deal out of it, reminded him it happens all the time, cleaned up appropriately (I was prepared, I use the Liberator Fascinator throw for all appointments), and made certain he was not at all embarrassed and enjoyed himself immensely.

    I didn't say she treated him badly, it's just that I think the escort is the one in control, so when things go sour it is the escort's job to maintain the atmosphere of comfort and continue in providing excellent client service. But that's just my opinion. It works for me, and I make bank.
    LMAO! She fucked him silly in the ass even when he started leaking shit all over the place! If that isn't good customer service I don't know what is!

    The fact is you weren't in the room. I heard the story a few weeks after it happened. Trust me, I've known this lady for over five years. If the guy was embarrassed it was on him, not her. I agree completely with your stance on how an escort should treat her customers. That may be why I've been seeing this particular lady once or twice a month for over five years.

    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    usually clients don't know the extent of prep work - I'm sure he did one enema, but it takes more than the one to prepare for some real ass-fucking
    Well, again, at the risk of sounding like a smart-ass, she's been at this a while and, at the time offered anal herself. She knows the prep and she told him what to do, he didn't follow through. Probably the reason why he didn't contact her again...

    You sound like you know what you are doing. Don't assume that, based on a simple story I related here, others don't know as well. If you want to go after someone who's posting here that's one thing. It's not really fair attack another escort who's not here to defend herself.
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    For the Liberator, wash on cold and hang to dry - don't even both with a dryer, the heat shrinks the protective barrier inside. My one complaint is that the satin slides on the sheets, I'm hoping they'll take my recommendation and make both sides velvet.

    OH - don't buy the microfiber, it looks crummy after just a couple washes - the Decor collection is much better, I recommend just buying black so you never have to worry about stains. http://www.liberator.com/eng/product...or-throe/12177

    If you just have some minor vag and peen discharge on it, blot it dry, and use a garment brush to flick it off - that way you don't have to change them too often if you host multiple clients. http://compare.ebay.com/like/1307572...Types&var=sbar

    I also keep some essential oil spray handy to spray on the blanket so it smells fresh and removes the wrinkles from your last play date http://heritagestore.com/rosewater-w...oz-liquid.html

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    I mean I really think you like me

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    Have you tried the crypton throver? I guess the liberator might be better cause it has the barrier sewn in ...

    http://www.cryptonathome.com/dog-throws-pet-blankets_2

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    This is one of the most fascinating threads ever, very entertaining and informative.
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    lol I'm not attacking the escort! You broke the rules by sharing her story!

    Rule #1 in Sexwork - the stories belong to the persons involved.

    There was no way in hell I wouldn't respond to the comment - too many girls read this forum to not hear how that type of appointment ought to go - I wasn't going to leave loose threads that can be interpreted (like I did!) as an escort embarrassing a client and thinking that is the norm. This forum is educational and I'm keeping it that way.

    Sorry to have offended you, but please don't share the stories of other sexworkers - unless that sexworker is you

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