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    I've noticed there are a few girls on MGF who ALWAYS have sex pets, are ALWAYS moving, and have about 6 birthdays a year. i know the guys notice, and I know that kind of behavior doesn'thelp the stereotype a lot of guys seem to have about cam girls. Is there any way at all to sit down with a girl like that and be like "Listen, sob stories make guys run away screaming with their hands in the air, and bring down the community as a whole. just tell them you wanna go get your nails done. you'll make more money", or is it better to just let them destroy themselves and hope that the guys that see it are smart enough to know that not everyone is a con artist?

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    Default Re: Lying..I mean, more than what's needed

    I don't think you can change what they are doing...if they ask for advice here we can help them but unsolicited advice rarely goes down well. They may even find that it's working for them. People will believe what they want to believe, some guys will see what they're doing and some won't. It will make the girls who don't use this technique stand out more to the guys who don't appreciate it. All we can do is focus on the way we present ourselves and lead by example.
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    BEEEP! BEEEP!! Wrong answer LOL
    Moving, having 45 Bdays a year and having make believe amazing life brings in customers.
    Is it a lie?
    Is it the truth?
    Who knows for sure?

    Everyday is my Birthday.
    Everyday Im moving to Bahamas.
    Everyday I am this fabulous woman that others only dream they can be.

    You should try it sometimes...
    Its a great feeling...
    Last edited by Fridays; 09-04-2012 at 08:49 AM.

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    Default Re: Lying..I mean, more than what's needed

    Hmm, I would keep my basics straight. Age, marital status, location, etc. Other than that, who cares? If any regular was like "I thought your b day was...." I'd say "ssshhh baby you know when my b day is but this guy is a nerd...and I can play him...but you are my favorite and you know me". It will shut them up if they call you out. And you say that to EVERY one of the men who asks you about it.

    This is not real, not to me. This is a make believe world where it's all about $$$. They wank, you get paid. That's it. There's no relationships no matter how hard these men want there to be one. I'm sorry if this gives cam girls a bad name, I can't speak for all. But I do speak for myself and how I feel about it. It doesn't matter if men read this, they are VERY easy to manipulate even if they read this and for a split second though "Those rotten cam girls and their trickery".

    It's like exotic dancers. How many men leave the club thinking a girl likes them, to never get a call from them, to have called the WRONG number that SHE gave him before he spent hundreds on her only to stroll in that next weekend with an attitude and she lay on the charm and he spends another few hundred and again is played! It's the name of the game.

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    I enjoy being a different person on cam and so does my custis. If I was the real me, all of us would be in a therapy session.

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    Default Re: Lying..I mean, more than what's needed

    When all the guys who come into my room are honest about everything and stop talking BS - THEN I'll be honest about everything and will stop talking BS.

    I don't see it happening anytime soon - so until then - the BS goes both ways

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    Lying is what makes it fun though. I mean, I find sociology to be boring. Psychology is moderately boring to me. But there's something funny about messing with someones mind and seeing what comes of it in a very harmless way. Obviously it's not hurting any of the men for you to lie to them. So, have fun with it. See what you ca get away with and get someone to believe. Then, have fun with their reactions. But I don't know, I've always been a thinker and introverted, so I love picking things apart and seeing how it works. Including people at times.

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    I lie all the time. Im sure some of my customers would be pissed if they found out, because I have the whole wholesome girl next girl thing going on. But for me its my why of keeping my cam life and my real one separate. I dont WANT this guy to see the real me. I dont want to talk about my significant other, my kid, my life, at all with these guys. In the end they are just using me, and I am using them.
    Plus, the real me is shy and has major body issues. I came up with a camming "persona" before I ever logged in for the first time. I even wrote it all down. I created a character with a name, birthday, friends, siblings, ex-boyfriends, ect. Autumn is outgoing and confident too, allowing me to cam without my hangups.
    I get into charter every-night while Im doing my makeup and hair.
    Maybe thats more work than most girls are willing to go through, but its what works for me. It also helps with safety issues as the guys dont actually know anything about me, so that's a plus.

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    Default Re: Lying..I mean, more than what's needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    All we can do is focus on the way we present ourselves and lead by example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Everyday I am this fabulous woman that others only dream they can be.
    Quote Originally Posted by NewCamGirl1 View Post
    This is a make believe world where it's all about $$$. They wank, you get paid. That's it.
    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    If I was the real me, all of us would be in a therapy session.
    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnLove View Post
    I dont WANT this guy to see the real me. I dont want to talk about my significant other, my kid, my life, at all with these guys. In the end they are just using me, and I am using them.
    Amen to all that!

    Cam sites and passive income sites like mgf exist because guys will pay for things that get them off. They are not there to make friends, and they don't care if you're real or not. When they talk about stereotypes or complain that girls aren't being real, they're really just trying to get more attention from you i.e. attention that will feed their need for free fapping/ ego stroking/ fulfill their own loneliness.

    You should never give away personal info, even the most remote/ smallest aspects of your life, like the name of your old school/ old hometown etc. There are crazies out there, and no amount of earnings will make up for the loss of your privacy, or worse! SO, if you're not going to tell guys who you really are/ about your real life, what are you going to do? sit in silence? Of course not, you make up a fake persona.

    The girls with the sob stories/ boundless energy and smiley faces/ 10 birthdays etc do my head in too, because that's not me, but I also admire them. They learned how to play the game and they're playing it. It works, for them.
    Last edited by sexysusie; 09-04-2012 at 04:06 PM. Reason: fixed friday's typo lol
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    This is like watching a movie and then complaining the movie was not real !


    bhahahah!!!

    @sexy suxie, I fixed my typo.. please fix my typos in the quote..
    I cant stand when I am quoted and there is a typo in there..
    I sound like an idiot! LOOL

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    Default Re: Lying..I mean, more than what's needed

    I understand what all of you lovely ladies are saying, and I think I also understand what Jaana is saying, too. I'm not the type who makes things up, but that's just because I have a horrible memory, I'm a really bad liar, and my lies would be obvious and pitiful. So I tell my real age, my real sexual preferences, my real state, because it is easier for *me*. If guys want to know too much information, information I'm not comfortable with sharing, I have no problem saying I'm not comfortable with talking about that and I keep the conversation moving.

    Sometimes guys will get an idea in their heads about me (like that I might date them some day, or that I'd move to their city some day), and because I know it's part of their fantasy and that it will never actually happen, I am okay with not shooting them down and talking about it without actually consenting to it. I don't consider it lying if a guy asks me if he can come visit me and I say something like, "Well, I have never met anyone from a site like this before, I would have to get to know you Really Well first so that I could trust you." Even though *I* know I am never going to meet the guy, I'm not saying that I *will* definitely meet him so it is not technically a lie, and he's indulging his GFE fantasies, and I get tons of exclusive shows over the next few months so we can "get to know each other." Maybe some people think of this is lying and if so, well, I guess we just have different definitions of the word and that is totally okay.

    I think what Jaana is referring to isn't lies like that, or even lying about your age or birthday, but saying you've had a birthday 7 times in this past year alone. On mainstream cam sites where the emphasis is on private/gold/goal shows I don't really think the guys care as much about who "you" are because deep down they know they're not seeing the "real" you, they are seeing you the performer, and as long as you perform well and keep them entertained they couldn't care less. But on sites like MGF (which is actually the only site I know of like this) where a lot of these guys aren't as interested in your content as they are for being your "friend," and will actually give you money just for being nice to them without asking for anything in return, coming off like a "real" person will probably earn you more money in the long run. MGF guys either want cheap as heck content or a "real" relationship, so if you're not doing 4861536543 videos for $5, coming off like a real person is going to work in your favor. If a girl is constantly lying in obvious ways I doubt she'll earn much money on there, as guys on there don't want to contribute to "fake" girls (I've had many guys tell me this before, which is why I say it).... Hey, but they can run their hustle however they want to, and if guys choose not to contribute to them for lying, that just means more funds are available to me for the taking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    Is there any way at all to sit down with a girl like that and be like "Listen, sob stories make guys run away screaming with their hands in the air, and bring down the community as a whole. just tell them you wanna go get your nails done. you'll make more money", or is it better to just let them destroy themselves and hope that the guys that see it are smart enough to know that not everyone is a con artist?
    Well playing fantasy that it's your birthday or that you're going on holiday isn't exactly a sob story.. If it works for them, then I am all for it. No cam chick should be telling another how to run her biz if it's actually working for her.

    I make out every night on cam that I am a horny slut, tart, a Mega Fucking Sex Teen from Venus... so does that make me a con artist? If that does, anyone who goes on cam pretending to be something they're not: whether it's pretending to be horny, pretending to be someone else, faking orgasms, faking our name, faking our location, faking that it's our birthday - all are con artists too. But our job is fantasy, not reality.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    But our job is fantasy, not reality.
    God Bless You. LOL
    You have spoken from the Bible of Camming...

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    Cam workers are not con artists. Neither are strippers. There's no product, it's human interaction. Being fake is what you are paid to do. You are paid to be whatever the guy wants you to be which is usually never who you truly are.

    Being fake are people like car salesmen. Who kiss your ass to make you buy a shitty product. Humans are not mass produced objects, we are definitely grade A no matter who the cam girl is or what she's offering. I look at cam girls as "hustlers" in a good way. I have always been a hustler, so this type of business suits me and my personality. I suck at sales because I hate people and I'm introverted, but I'm super smart and I look at situations, see what isn't working, and then try to fix them. VERY much like my IRL job! We are opportunists and we are using our time and resources to make money. We are, in many ways, no matter the educational background of each individual, very smart for being able to do cam work.

    How does a cam girl who hates people and who is introverted who wouldn't mind living alone, with ten cats on a hill in an old house successful at caming? I look at customers as test subjects. I try something, if it doesn't work I think WHY did this not work? I try to fix it and I try a new angle. It's to me like an experiment and the goal is to find a solution that produces a positive feedback.

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    Ummmm these things could be true. I've moved 5x in the last year. And whatever works for them. Who cares?

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    I think a lot of you misunderstood me.
    There was no "snooping" involved, and that comment flat out offended me. Do you think i sit here all day looking at other girls cam? on MGF the "offers" section, as well as the blogs, are visiable to the girls. When i go to post an offer and notice the same girls are akways having the same calamities I can't help but be annoyed.
    Yeah, to an extent this is a preformance, but what separates MGF from true cam sites is that in camming you get a lot of guys coming and going. You gain a few regulars but for the most part you just fake a smile all day to strangers. With MGF, you deal with the same people every day. You have to pick a gimmick and stick with it. Everything you say and do is logged, so if you lie, hyperbolize, whatever beyond your actual gimmick PEOPLE DO NOTICE, And they co0mplain about it. The MGF girls here I'm sure can verify how many contributing members have how annoyed with sob stories and the like in their profiles.

    So, i think a lot of you didn't understand what I meant at all, but it's cool.

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    Oh gawd. If SM subtracted $1 for every faux story and stunt I have pulled in free chat I would end up owing money LOL. Lots of em are loosely based on events from my own life so I don't have to strain to remember my story lines but.. It's not a con. It's a job. We serve fantasies. You have to keep your cam life and real life separate IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnLove View Post
    I lie all the time. Im sure some of my customers would be pissed if they found out, because I have the whole wholesome girl next girl thing going on. But for me its my why of keeping my cam life and my real one separate. I dont WANT this guy to see the real me. I dont want to talk about my significant other, my kid, my life, at all with these guys. In the end they are just using me, and I am using them.
    Plus, the real me is shy and has major body issues. I came up with a camming "persona" before I ever logged in for the first time. I even wrote it all down. I created a character with a name, birthday, friends, siblings, ex-boyfriends, ect. Autumn is outgoing and confident too, allowing me to cam without my hangups.
    I get into charter every-night while Im doing my makeup and hair.
    Maybe thats more work than most girls are willing to go through, but its what works for me. It also helps with safety issues as the guys dont actually know anything about me, so that's a plus.
    ^^Good idea^^ =) Never thought about doing something like that! =) hmm....I wonder what my persona would be ?? =P






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