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    So I've been working for barely above minimum wage as a co manager of a stupid retail store. I guess I'm sort of an assistant manager in that I do the exact same things as the manager, I just get shafted on the pay. I also cam and make as much camming in an hour as I do a whole day at work. My college degree is in nothing related to what I do and lately I've not given a hoot at work and just been screwing things up.

    I'm thinking you pay me such low wages, I'm giving you the type of work that salary demands, which is nothing. If you want me to do what the manager does, you give me the managers pay. Plus I have to work 12 hour days sometimes 13 hour days and sometimes I even have to work on my break, but legally I still have to punch out.

    So I decided to quit and have written up a resignation. However today my child fell ill and I called in, only to be yelled at for something I didn't do last night that cost the store a whopping three bucks! I was like oh seriously. And on top of that they yelled at me and tried to make me feel guilty for staying home with my sick kid by saying "well now i can't go to my family cook out tonight because YOU have a sick kid" and hung up HAHA.

    So I'm thinking of not putting in my resignation, pissing off my boss and making them fire me for unemployment. This is a corporation, they have no problem firing people. What do you guys think?

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    Getting fired, you will have to disclose why you left your last job if you start seeking a new place to work. It's best to resign and not burn those bridges.
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    You might as well do it but don't count on unemployment because I know a lot of people who've gotten fired for various reasons and had to appeal two or three times before they got it, or never were able to get it at all.

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    Getting fired, you will have to disclose why you left your last job if you start seeking a new place to work. It's best to resign and not burn those bridges.
    Oh no, I don't even have to put them on a CV. And they won't be as they have nothing to do with my education. Generally, on a CV you only put work that's related to your field and they know people will not list bullshit jobs. The world of professional and non professional jobs is different. In a non professional situation where one applies for a job like mine, or a cashier or whatever, you generally put anything on your application. For a professional job, lets say I was applying for a chemist job, I would only list jobs that I have done that show my skills and abilities in chemistry. They would not care if I got fired mopping floors at McDonalds, or that I even flipped burgers at McDonalds, as it has nothing to do with my ability to perform well as a chemist. I hope this makes sense.

    I really only did this for extra money during the summer. Probably would fight me on the unemployment that's true. I'll probably just put in my resignation and be done. It's been my experience, after seeing people who work for this company, that the ones who do the worst and who get fired are generally college students or recent grads who can't get a job in their field. I think this is why companies hate to hire people who are "overqualified" they know we are less likely to care about that particular job.

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    Getting fired, you will have to disclose why you left your last job if you start seeking a new place to work. It's best to resign and not burn those bridges.
    This. Right now you have camming to turn to, but that's not a viable career to hold until retirement, so sooner or later you'll have to find other work, and you'll not only have to disclose the firing, but you won't even have a good reference from them. You say that you won't have to list it on your CV, but some job applications ask specifically if you've ever been fired, and if you have no other work to put on it, you're stuck putting irrelevant work like this on your resume. Sure, you can lie, but these things have a tendency of catching up with you. It's just best not to burn bridges - you also never know when you'll run into someone you've wronged.

    FWIW - I've found that in retail and food service, management doesn't tend to like to fire people BECAUSE they can go on unemployment. Instead, they try to get the problem employees to quit on their own accord, by giving them undesirable/no shifts and such.

    I understand your frustrations with your job and getting paid minimum wage, but everyone has to start somewhere. A college degree is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't mean the next job you'll find will pay significantly more. You've got to pay your dues and work your way up, so that's something to keep in mind. The responsible thing to do would be to do your job well and then request a raise to match your increasing responsibilities - not do the bare minimum and piss off your boss until they fire you. Then, when issues come up such as working such long hours, you bring them up in a calm manner and explain why it's not possible for you to continue working like that.

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    This. Right now you have camming to turn to, but that's not a viable career to hold until retirement, so sooner or later you'll have to find other work, and you'll not only have to disclose the firing, but you won't even have a good reference from them. You say that you won't have to list it on your CV, but some job applications ask specifically if you've ever been fired, and if you have no other work to put on it, you're stuck putting irrelevant work like this on your resume. Sure, you can lie, but these things have a tendency of catching up with you. It's just best not to burn bridges - you also never know when you'll run into someone you've wronged.

    FWIW - I've found that in retail and food service, management doesn't tend to like to fire people BECAUSE they can go on unemployment. Instead, they try to get the problem employees to quit on their own accord, by giving them undesirable/no shifts and such.

    I understand your frustrations with your job and getting paid minimum wage, but everyone has to start somewhere. A college degree is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't mean the next job you'll find will pay significantly more. You've got to pay your dues and work your way up, so that's something to keep in mind. The responsible thing to do would be to do your job well and then request a raise to match your increasing responsibilities - not do the bare minimum and piss off your boss until they fire you. Then, when issues come up such as working such long hours, you bring them up in a calm manner and explain why it's not possible for you to continue working like that.
    The thing is, my degree is in chemistry/phisics and my master's is half done right now. So I'm not even a retail person anyway. I sure don't want to work up in retail LOL. I have a job as soon as my master's is done, already signed off on it making about 120K per year in the UK and that's American dollars not Euro. My visa paperwork has been signed and my future employer is getting it out. But still, for the mean time I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. Camming is definitely not a job for a future career, but it's great for a college student.

    That's not always true about disclosing firings. My husband got fired from some stupid manufacturing job five years ago and he got a job right out of college making bank, never even put them on a resume. In fact, he mentioned to his boss about how the corporation did some really messed up things AND fired him and his boss said "yes, we've heard they are bad". So it depends on the field a person is in I guess as to whether being fired or not matters.

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    I would personally put in a formal resignation, thank them for the wonderful opportunity, and move on. In situations like these, I think it's best not to tempt karma.

    That's just me, though.
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    Well, it looks like you have thought this through already, so why ask for advice? Just get yourself fired. And hope it doesn't bite ya one day. Good luck!
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    While you aren't required to put ANY work experience on a resume / CV, most potential employers will question you if there are big gaps in employment. Not sure how long you have been there, but especially if it has been for a year or more, and you do not list anything for employment during that time, that will be a big red flag. They will probably ask what went on during that period of time, and if it comes out then about the job, it may look like you were trying to hide it for some reason, or if you make something up, it is possible that it could be found out later and cause you a problem.

    Quitting or getting fired in a spectacular fashion rarely (if ever) will provide you with any sort of benefit other than the immediate feeling of "stickin' it to The Man". For your long term employment outlook, you are much better leaving on as good of terms as you are able. Best of luck no matter which way you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye View Post
    Getting fired, you will have to disclose why you left your last job if you start seeking a new place to work. It's best to resign and not burn those bridges.
    Its a retail job.... No one takes those jobs seriously on a resume (sorry) I mean for a higher position I doubt your boss would care what job you had that is unrelated to that field, it can always be included in the resume but a referrence check sure wont be done on it. You can easily walk retail to fast food to another "teenage" job to get hired and fired within a week and Im sure a higher postion job wont care for those jobs. That "gap" can always be filled up "i was studying and focusing on my degree", doing co-op/intern etc

    If you are almost done your degree and already signed onto a contact, and are ABLE to live from camming 100% then I'd quit, if not then have a talk with your manager, try to work it out and see how things go, Im sure you'd have no problems getting another retailor job, start looking for something else while you work there. If camming can/is supporting you at 100% without trouble I'd quit, that sort of stress is not worth it for that sort of job, esp when you are on your way of finishing your degree.

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    and sometimes I even have to work on my break, but legally I still have to punch out.
    Actually this is 100% illegal. You are supposed to get paid for every minute you work. And if you are working such long days, multiple times per week, are you working overtime, and getting paid properly for it? I know that in some states if you are an hourly employee if you work a 10+ hour day you are even supposed to be paid for an extra hour (albeit not at an overtime rate even if you work over 40 hours in a week).

    Also, as long as you didn't break any of the job policies (ie not enough notice before calling out) you shouldn't have to put up with the bullshit of someone (trying) to make you feel guilty and hanging up on you when you call out. Honestly, if it isn't part of any policy you don't even need to give them a reason as to why you can't make it.

    If you really want to stick it to them, or just a specific manager if that's the issue, I would bring those kind of things to the attention of an HR manager or a similar position. If they don't do anything then it might be time to speak to someone at a state labor board. Those kind of things would do much more damage in the long run for both individuals and corporations than having to pay out unemployment.

    I would go over the job policies with a fine tooth comb and make sure I was doing the right things, and I was being treated properly. Also learn the labor laws for where you are and make sure they are being followed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCamGirl1 View Post
    The thing is, my degree is in chemistry/phisics and my master's is half done right now. So I'm not even a retail person anyway. I sure don't want to work up in retail LOL. I have a job as soon as my master's is done, already signed off on it making about 120K per year in the UK and that's American dollars not Euro. My visa paperwork has been signed and my future employer is getting it out. But still, for the mean time I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. Camming is definitely not a job for a future career, but it's great for a college student.
    If that's the case, then just quit. There's still no need to burn that bridge as you never know when you'll run into those people again - it's unlikely given the different field and country you'll be working in, but you truly never know - and it's not like it'll kill you to be professional and hand in a two weeks notice. If anything, think of it as practice for having a 'real' job, because those won't all be sunshine and roses either, and you'll have to deal with them professionally and maturely.

    Just take the time to focus on finishing your studies. Congratulations on having something great set up for after graduation!

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    Thanks for all the responses. I have been a full time student, sometimes taking 22 credit hours per semester, for the past almost 6 years. Actually longer if you count my earlier community college years doing gen eds. So, I can easily explain any gap in my employment, and having been married all that time, I can easily say my husband worked and paid for things. Which he did.

    I just called in and quit. I was like you know, this guy was a jerk, the company treats people like crap, they would fire me with no notice. So since he hung up on me I was like well, here's a taste of your own medicine. Now they are going to really be stuck but if you want respect you have to give it.

    That guy will never hurt my career. He's a retail manager and he's going nowhere. I'll probably never see him again and if so, oh well. I talked to my adviser today about it and he said I should have told him to go shove it up his ass. His exact words.

    As for karma, I'm not much of a believer in that stuff, but I treat people how they treat me. I'm nice, but if they are not respectful I am a real witch. So maybe this is his karma coming back, he treated me with disrespect, now I left him one person down and he has to work open to close EVERY day. Should have been nicer.

    Well, they say clock out the thirty minutes, and if you have to work during your break just go back and sit down in increments. That's a real break! Plus they don't pay OT by forcing managers to bounce around from different stores, keeping them from having to pay OT but working people more than forty hours a week.

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    I'd probably call the former bad boss back and tell him to please be sure to not delay my final paycheck or I 'just might' report some of their illegal labor practice to the appropriate state labor agencies, in which case he'll have a lot of explaining to do...

    ;-)

    ... but that's just me, I tend to move on and not waste time on negative energy, but will toss a little back to those that have previously tried to pull the rest of us down...

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    Which is more important - fighting for unemployment, or getting some satisfaction? Cuz if I were you, I'd put in my resignation and then tell everyone there EXACTLY what I thought of their petty and pathetic little asses on my way out. Done it before. ALWAYS worth it.

    EDIT - just saw that you already quit. Too bad. DEFINITELY report their labor practices though. No question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Which is more important - fighting for unemployment, or getting some satisfaction? Cuz if I were you, I'd put in my resignation and then tell everyone there EXACTLY what I thought of their petty and pathetic little asses on my way out. Done it before. ALWAYS worth it.

    EDIT - just saw that you already quit. Too bad. DEFINITELY report their labor practices though. No question.
    AJ, this EXACTLY what I did when I quit working at the newspaper. At my exit interview every question I was asked about why I was leaving was answered, because of the Publisher. When asked what I would CHANGE about my job, I said the publisher. 2 weeks after my last day, the newspaper was sold to a new company, a week after that, the publisher was fired!!! I'm not vindictive at all, but fo shore, that felt DAMN good when I found out!
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    I worked at a certain well-known custom shop here in Vegas for a couple of years. I was the #1 salesperson in the company and they screwed me over on promotions constantly to bump up the owners buddies - and because they didn't want me off teh sales floor. One day - without going into TOO much detail - the owner called me and ripped into me for something that his "pet" employees did all the damn time. Nevermind that it was something we did to make up for his blatant labor violations in an effort to get a lunch break on a Sunday when working teh store alone for 7 hours. Anyway - he happened to do this at the same time that I had finished my tax returns and added up my PREtax income and divided by the heinous number of hours (average 55 per week) he was working me. I tore him 3 new assholes, told him to come work the store himself, locked the door, slid my key back under it, and left. I received 4 calls in the next 3 weeks begging me to come back and offering a raise. I told them I would show up for the sales meeting that week and discuss it. I showed up, laughed at them and told the owner and the GM what I thought of them in front of the whole staff, and left. That might be the happiest moment of my life, lol. 6 months later they had 100% employee turnover and less than a year later they were bankrupt and closed all their stores. I like to think that losing my million-dollar book of business contributed to that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almost Jaded View Post
    Which is more important - fighting for unemployment, or getting some satisfaction? Cuz if I were you, I'd put in my resignation and then tell everyone there EXACTLY what I thought of their petty and pathetic little asses on my way out. Done it before. ALWAYS worth it.
    Are you actually advising people to burn bridges in employment? Seriously? Because that's some spectacularly bad advice.

    Here's what I would suggest as perhaps better alternative advice:

    1. The world does not revolve around you. If you act in a way that assumes it does -- you are always right, and your boss is a clueless moronic twatwaffle -- it can only hurt you. You'll eventually outgrow this automatic reflex action. Success in the workplace is crucially dependent on your ability to do so. Sooner is better than later.

    2. You don't have every perspective into a situation at work or anywhere else. You can't know what every other person knows and despite what you may think of your boss, you can't know everything you need to know about the boss or that position to pass judgment. If you think you do, stop, take a few steps back in your mind and reconsider others' actions, motivations, pressures, viewpoints, etc. People are a lot smarter than you think. It's why they've survived so far.

    3. Never ever, ever burn a bridge. Never, never, ever, EVER. Once you burn a bridge, rebuilding it is almost impossible, and it's never the same as being gracious when walking out the door.

    4. If you throw a tantrum when resigning, people will talk about the tantrum, and you, and how sad and self-destructive it all was. They may tell you to your face that you were so awesome doing it, but that's not what they will say behind your back nor what they tell everybody else.

    5. The reason gossip is so much fun is that it makes people feel superior to you when recounting your failures, fits, bad behavior and screaming tirades. Of course this does not actually make people superior, but it's their core motivation to gossip in the first place and it's powerful, pernicious and persistent. Those people who are left behind at work are going to badmouth you and they are going to do it for a very long time.

    Don't scream, throw fits, tell people off, stamp your feet or otherwise act like a child when you choose to move on. There is a reason that they call gracious, self-restrained and tolerant behavior "professional." Because it is.
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    She indicated taht this place wasn't one that would affect her professional resume. Secondly, I said nothing about throwing a tantrum - I said to tell them what she thought of them in excruciating detail on her way out. Burning bridges that MATTER is enver a good idea. Burning bridges that never did a damn thing for you, with a company that you'll never bother asking for a referral, with employees who probably wouldn't be there in a year anyway - so what? Yes. I am absolutely recommending burning a bridge with that kind of employer. I have, many people I know have, and it has never bitten any of us in any way. After my aforementioned issue at that shop, I went straight into a management position at another place - BECAYSE the story got around. They called and asked me to come over. My customers all came with me. It went very well for a while, before that entire industry started a nosedive.

    There are jobs where you get $25k/year middle-management types with all kinds of ego problems and bullshit who'se idea of professionalism is enforcing the dress code to its strictest interpretation when dealing with employees that they personally dislike. Telling these types what they are and what you think of them on your way to bigger and better things is in no way a bad thing.

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    But you did tell her to throw a tantrum, to tell off the boss, in the quoteback I put at the top of my post. You said to tell everyone on the way out "exactly what you think of their pathetic and petty asses" and that it was "ALWAYS worth it."

    I'm sorry, but that's just insane. It's unprofessional, short-sighted, self-destructive and honestly pretty childish.

    And advising other people to behave like this is just undercutting them and sending them down a crazy, wrongheaded and ultimately self-destructive path.

    Again, sorry if this comes across as rather harsh, but I felt somebody needed to point out the higher road here because in the long run it is always a better strategy for the OP and everybody else too.

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    We shall agree to disagree than. Regardless, the OP took the route she took before I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Good Things View Post
    But you did tell her to throw a tantrum, to tell off the boss, in the quoteback I put at the top of my post. You said to tell everyone on the way out "exactly what you think of their pathetic and petty asses" and that it was "ALWAYS worth it."

    I'm sorry, but that's just insane. It's unprofessional, short-sighted, self-destructive and honestly pretty childish.

    And advising other people to behave like this is just undercutting them and sending them down a crazy, wrongheaded and ultimately self-destructive path.

    Again, sorry if this comes across as rather harsh, but I felt somebody needed to point out the higher road here because in the long run it is always a better strategy for the OP and everybody else too.
    I did point that out in my first post, as well as numerous other people in this thread. As you can see, the OP chose to ignore that advice and call in and quit her job. Now it's a moot point.
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    Well, I did NOT throw a tantrum. I'm pretty professional. This is why I left the company, they were not. I did tell them what I thought. I just said, it's not for me, my personality and I don't have time for it. I can quit now, and give myself more time to do my school work, or I can quit in two weeks and probably do bad on my next assignment. Since school is more important, I'm not giving a notice. My boss said he understood. He was actually in a good mood, I guess he figured after his actions, he expected me to quit. Probably expect me to cuss him.

    But really, if you pay me just a little over a dollar above min wage, don't expect me to treat it as a career. And don't expect me to act like it's a career when I walk away. I've quit a lot of jobs before just like that one, never hurt me in the least. But I've never been fired, and I really was thinking some unemployment might be nice LOL.

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    She indicated taht this place wasn't one that would affect her professional resume. Secondly, I said nothing about throwing a tantrum - I said to tell them what she thought of them in excruciating detail on her way out. Burning bridges that MATTER is enver a good idea. Burning bridges that never did a damn thing for you, with a company that you'll never bother asking for a referral, with employees who probably wouldn't be there in a year anyway - so what? Yes. I am absolutely recommending burning a bridge with that kind of employer. I have, many people I know have, and it has never bitten any of us in any way. After my aforementioned issue at that shop, I went straight into a management position at another place - BECAYSE the story got around. They called and asked me to come over. My customers all came with me. It went very well for a while, before that entire industry started a nosedive.

    There are jobs where you get $25k/year middle-management types with all kinds of ego problems and bullshit who'se idea of professionalism is enforcing the dress code to its strictest interpretation when dealing with employees that they personally dislike. Telling these types what they are and what you think of them on your way to bigger and better things is in no way a bad thing.
    The employees are either college students who hate it, people with no GED and people who want to move up and settle for fifty grand a year after 20 years of servitude. My boss, he has worked for his job for years, he made about six hundred a week. Those jobs are typically not looked down on when someone quits without giving a notice. Anyone who has worked those jobs, who happens to be in a very high position in a very good company would completely sympathize with someone. Unless its' another retail corporation, in which case they are all evil.

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    ^my point exactly

    I used to take a few months off every few years and work a bullshit job just to de-stress from sales and management shit. If I was going to be with a company forever, I would have stayed regardless, but these places often have a way of getting bought out and changing policies and whatnot - makes it almost impossible to stay on for more than a fwe years anyway unless you make it pretty damn high up the ladder. ANYWAY - every time I "switched" and was feeling burnt out, I'd look for a job that sounded fun and work it for a while regardless of the pay.

    So one time I got a job at a helicopter tour company working on the ramp. It was AWESOME, lol. Didn't pay shit, but the work was relatively easy and so much fun. Anyway, so my "manager" was someone with the exact same job as me, but who'd been there forever with nowhere to go up the ladder, so they called him the "ramp supervisor" and gave him a small pay bump every couple of years. When I interviewed, they commented that i was overqualified and I told them flat out that I was a 3 to 6 month proposition before I'd go back to something that actually made money. They were amazed that I would be so blunt - but the job was almost seasonal anyway, so they took me. Anyway - this manager - he made $1.50 more per hour than I did for the exact same work - no biggie, he's been there almost 4 years after all. But he had this attitude, lol. Like, his shit didn't stink and I was there to piss on. Well, needless to say, that didn't fly, lol. I would stare right at him and laugh in his face and go back to doing my job - which required somewhere between zero and less than zero supervision. He would FREAK and go to the bosses, who would take me into their offices and laugh their asses off about him and then pretend to be all stern when they sent me out the door again. I never once took this guy seriously, and after a while he figured it out and just left me alone - my work always got done quickly and correctly anyway.

    So one day after this unofficial truce was in place, we were outside talking over a cigarette. He asked me why I was there and why I had such a "piss poor attitude". I told him flat out that his small-minded approach to management annoyed me and I found it impossible to respect him. He then did two things that shocked the ever living shit out of me - and made me first respect him more, and then even less.

    First - he straight up asked why I didn't respect him and what he could do to be more respect worthy. I told him that I managed dozens of employees sometimes and handled large amounts of money, inventory, purchasing, large marketing budgets, etc - and that his approach was laughable. He asked how to improve - I was very impressed. I *started* to respect him and talk about it - but then we got to talking about money. He asked me how I could take the job so lightly, when I needed the money. I gave him a look that must have spoken volumes, because he reacted to it, and asked why I thought the question was stupid. I told him "Dude, I need $8.75 an hour like I need a second asshole - this job is fun, and it doesnt' follow me home. It doesn't stress me out. Once I need real money, I'll go back to a real job and make $50k plus bonuses and commissions again, and either find a place to retire or look for another fun job in a few years when I need a break". This blew his mind. This guy was over 30 years old. He took home less than $1,500 a month after taxes. And he survived on that. He was single, had been for years. And he looked at me and I swear I would have thought he was joking if I hadn't seen his face, when he said "Wow - I can't even imagine making fifty grand a year. I don't need all that though, I'm happy here. I'll be here for years, and they'll eventually pay me $12 an hour. That's good money".

    He was dead serious. I tried to discuss it with him - he didn't want to hear it. He had literally NO ambition. No ideas about retirement, no ideas about his future beyond working his way up to $12 an hour. I couldn't respect him if I tried after that.

    I didn't leave that job with any bullshit, I just put in my notice. I DID throw some interesting "tantrums" as AGT would put it while I was there - but upper management thought it was hilarious that I put these morons in their place. I would do things like walk out on a huge tour group and leave the two jerk off "managers" (there was another who USED to be a ramp guy but had moved all the way up to driving the company vans to pick up tourists) - I called them tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber - to run the whole thing when they started being assholes ordering me around in front of everyone for no other reason that there were 50 people there and they could. SO I just shrugged, drove off in the Gator and left them on the ramp to handle a 4 person job with 2 instead of 3, clocked out and went home. Stuff like that. On that one, the owner called me the next day to ask why I did that and said I might be fired. I told him exactly, word for word, what went down. He laughed himself almost sick and told me to come in, he would discuss it with "those two".

    Epilogue - that company closed its doors 2 years alter. I've often wondered what happened to Mr. No Ambition. Probably working his way up the ladder at a fast food place or Wal Mart. I hope not. I hope he went to school, or found a latent talent and made a real living at it - I really do. I somehow doubt it, but I wish him the best anyway.

    I could go on and on with this. Ex GF#2 got a between-modeling and stripping gigs at Target for a while. Her direct supervisors were these two fat middle aged bitches that made her life miserable for no reason other than she was kind of passive and that she was young and hot. Literally. They would give the other fat employees long breaks and make her work the counter alone at lunch rush, and scream at her to get back up front when she came back to ask where everyone was. Shit like that, constantly. Oh my GOD - the things she said the day she quit! I wish I had it on video. She made one of them so mad she burst a vein in her eye and the other one cried her eyes out. She also got one of them fired. AWESOME SHIT.

    Again - DOZENS of stories like this - personal, friends, family, etc. NOT ONE has ever come back to haunt anyone, because jobs like that DON'T FUCKING MATTER. I doubt AGT has worked anything like that in years - if ever. He probably just doesn't get it. I would never suggest doing such a thing in a job that MATTERED. But really - small minded fucktards in the work place need to be put in their place sometimes. It's always good to see - and WAAAY better to be the one doing it!!

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