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    I don't even look at my own taxes because I am clueless especially where numbers are concerned. When filling out tax forms are you required to list each individual business that you got work from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Because your bank asks for your occupation just like they ask for your phone number. They try to keep those things up to date. They just assume they are your employer if you deposit enough checks from them, therefore, they will update that as being your employer. I never listed anything adult ANYWHeRe, yet it is on my background check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvarga View Post
    I don't even look at my own taxes because I am clueless especially where numbers are concerned. When filling out tax forms are you required to list each individual business that you got work from?
    No. You just list whichever occupation you please and attach your 1099s. Your 1099s are automatically reported to the IRS anyway if you made over $600 that year so there's no use in trying to hide them. Auditing red flag right there if you try to hide them.

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    What is wrong with payoneer? I've had no problems from them what so ever. I still think people are too paranoid, who has time to concern themselves with who is or isn't a cam girl? The bank thing, I still think it's a bit much. I'm listed as a self employed individual at my bank using the degree I got in college. I get payments from at least three different sources, one on a regular basis that makes up over fifty percent of my deposits and it's not from anything adult. If you have more than one source of income, the bank then has to decide which on is your real job or not......I don't know.

    Besides, is some lady at the bank looking at your account out of all the other accounts and then seeing where your check is coming from and then googling it? Why? Why would they even do that? And why would they even care if they did find out you were a cam girl? That would still make no matter. You could easily say you did customer service from them, problem solved because unless they know your cam name, or you were a girl who happens to be their advertisement on their webpage, good luck finding you.

    And this is the reason I don't show my face ladies. Because I don't want to live with all of this paranoia And you know, if a video surfaced of me, I would look hot in it. We've stayed on the couples thing and we've been making bank. So, it's me and my hubby getting down. So if anyone said anything I'd say "My husband and I, we are exhibitionists. Some people are swingers, how we get our sexual kicks makes no difference in what I can bring to your company with my education and training". But maybe I'm a bit less paranoid since I hate dealing with people I chose a career where they will stick me in a corner and I don't talk to anyone except for people who probably also hate people. So really, the chances of someone caring what I do like that is nil. Nobody will know I even work for them, I'm not their spokes person or doing PR. But some of you, if you want to do something that requires a lot of human interaction, I can see the paranoia.

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    ^^Not everyone wears masks. Youre more comfortable in one- some girls feel uncomfortable in masks and it limits their income.

    Yes payoneer is good..right now (if you dont mind paying fees to get your own money in exchange for privacy)... Search the forums for epassporte. They were a similar company and they were good too- until they closed up shop one day unexpectedly. I believe there are still many models who never got their remaining account balances from that company when they shut down.

    There are so many careers out there to choose from its probably easier for someone with an adult industry past to find employment in a industry that wont care too much about your adult industry past (whether you disclose it upfront or conceal it and it never comes out or its revealed later and is not a big deal)

    Or if it is your dream to work in an industry where your background in the adult industry is going to cause you problems(which is pretty much anything with kids)- you do so at your own risk. Read through all the linked threads here and do your own research, clean up your credit report, be careful what you put on your application and references, Know what kind of background check they are going to run, try to clean up your video trail from the internet if at all possible. And just know even if you do get the job, you could lose it at any time if if ever does come out that you were a camgirl and lied about it.

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    Annabellz, I took the mask off two days ago. I just do nose down. Sometimes show my eyes in free. I don't show face in privates. And since I keep my free room basically teen friendly, I don't worry about it so much. So even doing it without the mask, and no face is still possible. If I were wanting to be a teacher I'd do that for sure.

    Payoneer costs me very little. I do a lot of paypal and ebay stuff that compared to what I spend on their fees payoneer is nominal. They may close, that's a possibility. I'll take that chance though. I got an Imlive check once and the lady at the bank was all suspicious because it wasn't from some local employer. Because nobody here works for anyone that's not local.

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    What is wrong with payoneer? I've had no problems from them what so ever. I still think people are too paranoid, who has time to concern themselves with who is or isn't a cam girl? The bank thing, I still think it's a bit much. I'm listed as a self employed individual at my bank using the degree I got in college. I get payments from at least three different sources, one on a regular basis that makes up over fifty percent of my deposits and it's not from anything adult. If you have more than one source of income, the bank then has to decide which on is your real job or not......I don't know.

    Besides, is some lady at the bank looking at your account out of all the other accounts and then seeing where your check is coming from and then googling it? Why? Why would they even do that? And why would they even care if they did find out you were a cam girl? That would still make no matter. You could easily say you did customer service from them, problem solved because unless they know your cam name, or you were a girl who happens to be their advertisement on their webpage, good luck finding you.

    And this is the reason I don't show my face ladies. Because I don't want to live with all of this paranoia And you know, if a video surfaced of me, I would look hot in it. We've stayed on the couples thing and we've been making bank. So, it's me and my hubby getting down. So if anyone said anything I'd say "My husband and I, we are exhibitionists. Some people are swingers, how we get our sexual kicks makes no difference in what I can bring to your company with my education and training". But maybe I'm a bit less paranoid since I hate dealing with people I chose a career where they will stick me in a corner and I don't talk to anyone except for people who probably also hate people. So really, the chances of someone caring what I do like that is nil. Nobody will know I even work for them, I'm not their spokes person or doing PR. But some of you, if you want to do something that requires a lot of human interaction, I can see the paranoia.
    No one said anything about Payoneer being bad. Payoneer is a good thing, its worth the fees. That way your bank can't change your occupation without you knowing. Payoneer is a bank, but its a bank from like Belize.

    Most girls do not have more than one main source of income. If you primarily work on SM or MFC, you bank will likely update your "employer" to that.

    "unless they know your cam name, or you were a girl who happens to be their advertisement on their webpage, good luck finding you." <--- If you work a lot and make good $$$ (i.e. are at the top of the page), its very easy to be found out. I've been found out many times over. Girls on SW seem so naive. They want it all. They want top success and top $$$, but they don't want to be found out. It just doesn't happen like that. I don't think anyone at a bank would care, but people in your personal life/family/school/other job definitely would.

    If you don't show your face, you severely limit your income. Unless maybe you're a niche hairy girl or something. My face is my best asset to be honest. Its the thing I get complimented on the most. Most girls severely limit their income not showing their face. Camming is all about the face, which draws customers in, and the personality, which is what keeps them there. Dancing is all about the body, which draws customers in, and seduction which is what keeps them there. But I'd say for camming, your face is almost essential (unless you are heavily niched).

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabellz View Post
    There are so many careers out there to choose from its probably easier for someone with an adult industry past to find employment in a industry that wont care too much about your adult industry past (whether you disclose it upfront or conceal it and it never comes out or its revealed later and is not a big deal)

    Or if it is your dream to work in an industry where your background in the adult industry is going to cause you problems(which is pretty much anything with kids)- you do so at your own risk. Read through all the linked threads here and do your own research, clean up your credit report, be careful what you put on your application and references, Know what kind of background check they are going to run, try to clean up your video trail from the internet if at all possible. And just know even if you do get the job, you could lose it at any time if if ever does come out that you were a camgirl and lied about it.
    Very true. My non-adult backup plan is going back to makeup artistry. But even then, depending on what I do, I may have problems. My second back up plan is using my education in psychology, another industry that does not care at all (unless you are directly working with kids). You're best off, for your own safety & mental health, to choose something adult past friendly. And also, I don't think any employer wants to hire anyone who actively works in the adult industry. That's another good point.

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    I have to disagree that the face is a cam girls best attribute. There are ways of tapping into a whole market of men who don't give a hoot about your face. I rarely get the guys who want to see my face. They are typically the ones who want to tell me what to do or who want me to do a blow job or suck on a toy. I always get the weird guys who want me to watch them jerk off on their "mom's" panties, degrade them for having a small penis, or who ask me to instruct them on putting a tampon in their ass. So, if you want to market yourself to that crowd, they don't care.

    And typically, they seem to be willing to spend much more. Because nobody in their real life would understand why a man in his fifties would want to wear a tutu and put tampons in his ass while someone else watched. I guess that is heavily niched. But not that I have something weird about my body that others don't, but maybe that I seriously get off on these guys doing these really weird things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCamGirl1 View Post
    I have to disagree that the face is a cam girls best attribute. There are ways of tapping into a whole market of men who don't give a hoot about your face. I rarely get the guys who want to see my face. They are typically the ones who want to tell me what to do or who want me to do a blow job or suck on a toy. I always get the weird guys who want me to watch them jerk off on their "mom's" panties, degrade them for having a small penis, or who ask me to instruct them on putting a tampon in their ass. So, if you want to market yourself to that crowd, they don't care.

    And typically, they seem to be willing to spend much more. Because nobody in their real life would understand why a man in his fifties would want to wear a tutu and put tampons in his ass while someone else watched. I guess that is heavily niched. But not that I have something weird about my body that others don't, but maybe that I seriously get off on these guys doing these really weird things.
    lol that is my niche, and I make tons more showing my face bc the customer can connect with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica1001 View Post
    Fashion journalism? Really? You think VOGUE won't let you write for them because you masturbated on the Internet? Shit, I think they'd consider it an ASSET! :-P

    (isn't everyone in fashion an ex-drug addict, or something?) (ok ok, maybe not, but geeeez...)

    So yeah. Good on you for being conscientious, but count me among those who don't think you have much to worry about.
    I guess I am just being paranoid. Nice to hear. I just never know what industries particularly don't care for sex work (besides working with children, I know that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    lol that is my niche, and I make tons more showing my face bc the customer can connect with me.
    Then if that's true, one must outweigh the good with the bad. If you have to show your face, then how do you deal with the paranoia of being found out by future employers that may or may not care?

    It's like one has to make a decision. If the decision is to show ones face on camera to make money now, then you must accept that you may not be able to do anything else but adult work for the rest of your life if you go balls to the wall with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewCamGirl1 View Post
    Then if that's true, one must outweigh the good with the bad. If you have to show your face, then how do you deal with the paranoia of being found out by future employers that may or may not care?

    It's like one has to make a decision. If the decision is to show ones face on camera to make money now, then you must accept that you may not be able to do anything else but adult work for the rest of your life if you go balls to the wall with it.
    lol did you not read any of my prior posts then? My education and prior career paths are adultwork-friendly. But only what? like 20% of professions are. And a lot of girls want to go into education and things with children, and those are the most anti-adult industries out there. And if they personally don't care, the parent will care.

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    Jobs that having an adult industry background could impact your ability to get or keep if your found out would include- anything that involves working with children, any job involving public relations (no one wants the face of their company to be tied to sex work unless its an adult company or an adult friendly company), most government/military jobs are going to be a no-go.

    You kind of have to look at it like this- if the job is going to include you dealing with the public, or customers, or clients(high profile or not), the clients/customers/public is what generates the business income. If you get outed will it cause an out roar by the clients/customers/public being served by said business? If so, its not the job for you.

    So I guess just think of the job you want and then think about (or maybe search online) if theres every been anybody whos been let go because of having an adult industry past, because those types of stories usually make the news. You want to be a fashion editor- go for it. A drug consular- great, as long as its for adults only.

    But if youre applying to work as a teller at your local bank they will pull your credit report and you may run into problems if a cam site appears on your report. Not because its illegal. But perhaps you didnt mention you worked for SM on the application, you didnt know it was going to show up on your credit report but it did, the bank googled it and saw it was a cam site, so maybe they call you back in for a second interview and you try to fib your way your through and give them a BS story about how you do consulting work for them or process customer refunds but it doesnt really matter because youre not getting the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabellz View Post
    Jobs that having an adult industry background could impact your ability to get or keep if your found out would include- anything that involves working with children, any job involving public relations (no one wants the face of their company to be tied to sex work unless its an adult company or an adult friendly company), most government/military jobs are going to be a no-go.
    Yes, as well as anything in education, healthcare, communications & media (its all about your image), politics, jobs where you are taking a leadership/role model role, etc.

    Adult-friendly jobs: trades, owning your own business, sales, psychology, social work, behind-the-scenes jobs in film, etc.

    A lot of other jobs will just depend on the hiring manager's take on the situation. Obviously no conservative employer or hiring manager would accept anyone with an adult background. But, for example, if the boss or hiring manager was your friend already, they would probably overlook it bc they know you as a person, not as a slutty moral-less stereotype.

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    lol did you not read any of my prior posts then? My education and prior career paths are adultwork-friendly. But only what? like 20% of professions are. And a lot of girls want to go into education and things with children, and those are the most anti-adult industries out there. And if they personally don't care, the parent will care.
    It was a rhetorical question, not posed specifically toward you.

    Then those women should decide to not cam if they want to go into fields that may look down on them. If they are even found at all. I'm not understanding the big deal here. Unless someone is a famous adult actress, or someone knows how to find them on an adult site using their screen name, and if nothing is linked to their real name on a google search, then so what? By the time they make it to be a teacher they won't be camming, so they won't be on the front page of a cam site. It's really not hard to come to a conclusion. Just don't cam if they want to be a teacher, unless they are going to enjoy being paranoid.

    You can also add to the list science careers. They are adult friendly. You won't find many conservatives there. Journalism if it's for a liberal journal. The WSJ has had John Waters write for them. Parents care about a lot of things. A teacher who teaches evolution in certain school systems are hunted down like an animal and parents go crazy. Teaching for anyone who isn't conservative or able to keep their mouth shut isn't a good choice. I have been a substitute teacher, it's hard for anyone who is liberal to teach except for college level classes. That's another option, if people want to teach they can always get a master's or Ph.D and teach at a college. They are less likely to care about some cam work someone did years prior, if they even find out.

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    OK. I just opened a business account with BAC. On the application they asked me who I was employed by and I filed "self". The only other questions they had were, "how much $$ will you be opening your account with"? Then they requested the payment info so they can float in the beginning balance. The only other question they asked was if I would like to set up direct deposit to avoid monthly fee's. I don't even think they did a credit check, they just wanted to verify that the money I floated in is coming from a place where the opening balance is in there. I applied on a Thursday and have an acceptance e-mail waiting for me in my box this evening. No further questions.

    So I am thinking if a bank has a record of you being on a cam site it's because you gave it to them in some way and not because they went looking for it. This is just how BAC works. I did not try WFC yet because I don't have enough to meet their opening balance requirements yet... but soon... I have faith...

    *Patting myself on the back*
    This is not a camming related business account. I'm so excited

    I want my life back.

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    Tax records are confidential and cannot legally be viewed by potential employers without explicit consent by you provided to the IRS. Employers do not check your tax records. Employers also do not check your bank account.

    Being paid by a cam company will not show up in a background check unless YOU list that company as an "employer" which would be inaccurate to begin with since you are not employed by the cam company. Same holds true for it not showing in your credit check as well.

    So it's pretty simple, prepare your taxes correctly as in independent contractor, and never list a camming site as your employer. You are self employed.

    It is absolutely possible to have a future in child care, teaching, health care, etc. even if you have cammed. You have to be SMART about your paper trail, but it is entirely possible.
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    Alright, I can't help but ask this question. We always talk about how this industry affects us cam girls after we leave, but how about our spouses. Can our spouses get fired for their wives doing this type of work.....such as government work, etc.? Just curious.

    Granted..most of my work, especially now, comes from C4S. So unless somebody wants to go through my c4s pages and giggle at the fact that you can see my pregnant belly, or me picking my nose (lol) - so be it!!!

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    ^^^ in regard to leaving a 'paper trail', there is anecdotal evidence which is beginning to show that banks are providing 'employer' information to credit reporting agencies based on patterns of repeated cashing of checks. Using a payment processing service like Payoneer minimizes this possibility.

    As to affecting 'straight job' opportunities, careers involving the 'public trust' i.e. other people's bodies, other people's children, other people's money etc. tend to perform more in depth background checks. In many cases this will involve job applications requiring the signing of an IRS information disclosure form, which in turn will provide the prospective employer with the applicant's tax records ( including 1099's from adult webcam hosts ). Similarly, careers involving a state issued professional license, like RN or CPA etc., may include an 'unprofessional conduct' provision where a past history of adult industry work will result in a 'citation' being added to your state professional license file for any potential future employer to see.

    In the final analysis, adult webcam work is not illegal ... so if a history of adult webcam work IS discovered it will not prevent the girl from obtaining a professional license or working in a position involving the 'public trust'. However, such an adult industry background COULD limit job possibilities i.e. an RN with an adult industry background may have great difficulty being hired for work at a religious associated hospital, but would have absolutely no problem being hired for work at a state prison or inner city clinic. Similarly, a teacher with an adult industry background may have great difficulty being hired for work at an affluent suburban school district, but would have no problem being hired for an inner city school district.

    As to potential negative effects on a spouse's job possibilities, this would be an even longer 'stretch'. For negative things to happen, the spouse's job would have to involve something extremely 'sensitive' ... i.e. jobs requiring top security clearances, high level political offices, top level corporate management etc.

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    I've been in the adult industry "full time" since at least 2004. Not a single thing has shown up on any credit reports or detailed background checks... I have always put self employed on any application or bank account, etc.

    Melonie, you are right about all you are saying. I just think that in order for any of that to come to a head, the model would most likely have to have been the one to report the information that could be negative to begin with.

    Maybe banks will start sharing who cashes a check from where with credit reporting agencies...? But I don't know. How would this fit into a credit report? Where does the information come from that this could be a future possibility? I'd like to read about it more.
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    Are any of you girls in school now while camming? Im curious to know what your plan is after, once you get your desired career. I was thinking about nursing...because i know it should always be around in the future *lets hope* my view on the world in coming years is horrible...but well...look at the facts, im just a worried freak who is stalking up her closest and pantries with "End of the World stuff". I wish I was on a farm growing my own food and living on the land to be honest..haha and well im thinking that nursing and hospital/medical jobs will still be here no matter what. Or hey i'll have the knowledge to take care of my own family and friends....if there is NO JOBS!!! I know i sound nuts..thats just me.

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    Are any of you girls in school now while camming? Im curious to know what your plan is after, once you get your desired career. I was thinking about nursing...because i know it should always be around in the future *letsat t hope* my view on the world in coming years is horrible...but well...look at the facts, im just a worried freak who is stalking up her closest and pantries with "End of the World stuff". I wish I was on a farm growing my own food and living on the land to be honest..haha and well im thinking that nursing and hospital/medical jobs will still be there no matter what. Or hey i'll have the knowledge to take care of my own family and friends....if there is NO JOBS!!! I know i sound nuts..thats just me.
    B.S. in Physics and B.S. in Chemistry and working now on a Master's. Mostly lab work in my future. Any job in the medical, engineering, science or technology field will be around in all countries, especially first world. Now, business jobs, they are there, but a lot more competition. But keep in mind, outside of the medical field, if you would like to make six figures starting out you can't do it with a bachelor's, typically. Usually I work two or three jobs at once. I have an ebay store, I was doing a part time public job, and am open for consulting jobs to which I've done a couple this year as an independent contractor, as well as camming.

    Camming hasn't been an issue with any of them. But then, at this years conference (not saying which one) for those employed in my field, we had gogo dancers on the exhibit floor, stripping off top layers, and they broke out the free beer around 10 AM. So, I'm not exactly in a field of people who freak out over sex. And, to be honest, there was much cocaine going around at the after party. So...it's something to think about. Stock brokering, they probably wouldn't care about a camming career either.

    I looked for any job that would suit my personality. Anything that keeps me away from the public and working with the same team, who will also have to be highly intelligent and educated was what I wanted. They say the science fields are the least conservative of all, a great many aren't even religious, where a lot of the issues with sex stem from. So, any field in the sciences will be very friendly to sex, I would highly doubt people in those industries would even think worrying about your past sexcapades on webcam is worth even thinking about.

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    Duh Re: Limitations of future employment

    I'm currently going to school to become an Esthetician... I just love love love it... next year i will probably get a degree in Medical Esthetics (then I can do laser treatments, acid applications and such..)

    I know I will be dealing with a lot of customer etc... Do you guys think my camming will ever be a problem for this career?? I'm so freaked out about it. In my taxes it says I worked as a 3rd party contractor for mfcxy for online marketing (the guy asked and I said this is what i did lol)

    so.. i really don't know..
    what freaked me out was this Melanie's comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    does physical therapy require a 'professional license' issued by the state ? If so, like a registered nurse or a CPA or any other professional license applicant, odds are that you will be required to sign an IRS information release as part of the professional license 'vetting' process. This will lead to the state professional license board being made aware of 1099 records of 'adult' industry work in the applicant's background. While this will not prevent a professional license being issued, it will probably lead to an 'unprofessional conduct' notice being placed in your professional license file which will be immediately visible to any potential future employer attempting to verify your professional credentials.
    We do need a license board to be a Esthetician

    ;(

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    ^ I dont really know anything about the licensing process to become an Esthetician. What I do recommend you do is the following. Heres a link with a list of states of cosmetology licensing boards- http://www.beautyschoolsdirectory.com/faq/state_req.php

    find your state on the list and click it.

    it will give you the contact info- either call them or email them and ask-(as in Melonies post) When applying for a cosmetology license will I be required to sign an IRS information release as part of the professional license 'vetting' process? And take it from there.

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