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    Default Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Few questions? Just because i,m still a naive cam girl, who wants to learn?

    To make customers stay in you room, instead of staying in someone else's who's NOT showing boobs? Competition?
    You experienced you make more money like this?
    You don't care, because you just love to show off, even without getting payed for it?
    You know that customers take cam girls private just to jerk off to their boobs, so why would you give it away for free even if it's permitted by the site?
    You think we would make more money if nobody would be allowed to show boobs, etc. in free chat?
    Do you know what dirty talk does to a man? From my experience, of watching their cams, makes them come faster, so shorter session.
    Men love mystery, so don't you think it makes you look desperate if you just display them for granted?
    Do i make any sense? lol
    Please let's brainstorm this in a friendly way. Chip in if you were experimented with showing and not showing.

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    You know what? I NEVER show any sort of nudity in free. In fact i never do free if i can help it, and when i do, it's face off cam and complete ignorance. BUT a few weeks ago i was splitcamming and suddenly realized i had been topless on sm for about 2 minutes. That was the first time i ever got tipped there roflmao! Won't be doing it again ever, but it was an eye opener.

    So, in short, i think most girls show off in free because they (mistakenly) think this is the only way to get guys paying, or at least interested.
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    I don't show boobs in free chat because if everything is out in public, what's left to show in private?
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    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    I was camming on Ifriends back in the days where all they saw was a picture until they paid! Hosts were angry at other hosts who even showed a nipple in a photo. There was no such thing as even free chat preview at that time. Those were the days Man was I stupid for sticking with my "career" and only doing camming part time. If I had done it full time back then and invested I would not have to work at all now.

    Camming has changed so much. MFC killed the cash cow we had and it's all morphed and changed into something I don't recognize!

    I hate seeing boobs out in free chat and even naked hosts just covering their crotch with a hand.

    I notice a lot of hosts who show tits if they reach half their gold show goal (this is another thing that I have hated to see on SM). It does seem to work, but I totally hate any tip based shows because all the freeloaders get to see for free what a good customer has paid for. It irks me.


    With that said, it does work for some hosts! (Especially on MFC). Some make tons doing public shows.

    I still think the day will come when a host gets in legal hot water and perhaps even arrested for XXX content in public chat where minors are watching (and yes it does happen! A clips4sale couple in Florida were sent to jail).

    Since it is technically against MFC's rules they will not stand behind you. It's the host who will take the fall even though they do not enforce the rules.


    Thankfully there are still men who will pay and prefer one on one experiences in private chat!



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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Lol who shows boobs in free chat for FREE? I don't think anybody does. If you're tlking about MFC, it's because they got tipped to get the boobs out. The only place I've ever saw FREE BOOBS was on cam4 and that site is just........ theres no word for it.........

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Unfortunately, guys have gotten spoiled and used to this, girls think they have to get topless/doggystyle/naked to make their gold show countdown(party chat). . the guys expect it. . . whatever, I say. Just do you and don't focus on those girls. . . I have my own hustle, and it WORKS. . but watching the half naked girls in free chat. . .it will just make you angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeenageAnnie View Post
    Lol who shows boobs in free chat for FREE? I don't think anybody does. If you're tlking about MFC, it's because they got tipped to get the boobs out.
    but it IS free for those who didn't tip. That's my objection to it.

    I wish all sites had what camflare (and the now defunct xpeeps) has with the black-out for non tippers.


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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    camming is numbers game and this is very true in trying to get gold shows off the ground.... sometimes stand up and dancing round showing doggy style gets more guys into your room.... Guy on sm if the are long in can see what you are doing in your room with out entering its.... so if lightly teasing and dancing round and showing doggy style gets more guys into my room and more guy who can tip I am going to do it.....because my gold show is ever going to go if I have 5 guys in my room....

    also I thing most of the guys they really beg for boobies and what not don't get any type of show and they willl get banned by most off thiere fav camgirls

    I also make good money showing shit for tips.... and I find that it does lead to ptv.

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Sometimes I wonder if tipping for tits etc. hinders getting them to go private. I am guilty of showing my ass for free in my thong. I need to stop it because 9/10 they leave my room. I also think they get off asking you about favorite positions and what turns you on. Peaches I believe posted an awesome video about people trying to get things for free. It's in the stop being cheap thread.

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    hearing what you have to say makes we wish I'd started 10 years ago.

    I'm somewhere in the middle. Certain things do seem to get the guys hot and bothered for tips to where they want to get a show, but I don't show any legal nudity in free or party chat.

    The guys that come into my room have actually complained that the girls who are putting it all out there in open forum are ruining the fun. They've asked me why girls do it!
    I've never understood the idea of giving it away. why would anyone pay for what they can get for free?
    If a guy wants to experience a trip to the moon, how is that supposed to happen when he sees the moon first thing when he comes into the room? where's the build up? have the clients really become that lazy?



    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I was camming on Ifriends back in the days where all they saw was a picture until they paid! Hosts were angry at other hosts who even showed a nipple in a photo. There was no such thing as even free chat preview at that time. Those were the days Man was I stupid for sticking with my "career" and only doing camming part time. If I had done it full time back then and invested I would not have to work at all now.

    Camming has changed so much. MFC killed the cash cow we had and it's all morphed and changed into something I don't recognize!

    I hate seeing boobs out in free chat and even naked hosts just covering their crotch with a hand.

    I notice a lot of hosts who show tits if they reach half their gold show goal (this is another thing that I have hated to see on SM). It does seem to work, but I totally hate any tip based shows because all the freeloaders get to see for free what a good customer has paid for. It irks me.


    With that said, it does work for some hosts! (Especially on MFC). Some make tons doing public shows.

    I still think the day will come when a host gets in legal hot water and perhaps even arrested for XXX content in public chat where minors are watching (and yes it does happen! A clips4sale couple in Florida were sent to jail).

    Since it is technically against MFC's rules they will not stand behind you. It's the host who will take the fall even though they do not enforce the rules.


    Thankfully there are still men who will pay and prefer one on one experiences in private chat!

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Lol, why are you ladies so concerned about who is showing what in free chat? Trust me, do what is best for you and you will see steady income, not everyone makes money the same way so I think it's silly to be so concerned what everyone else does unless you're looking for ideas or pointers. If you don't show boobs in free, good for you- if not, good for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    Lol, why are you ladies so concerned about who is showing what in free chat? Trust me, do what is best for you and you will see steady income, not everyone makes money the same way so I think it's silly to be so concerned what everyone else does unless you're looking for ideas or pointers. If you don't show boobs in free, good for you- if not, good for you.

    Just my opinion but I think it hurts us. Look at MFC, I feel like a lot of the men are conditioned to expect things for free because so many other girls are doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracieBlue View Post
    Just my opinion but I think it hurts us. Look at MFC, I feel like a lot of the men are conditioned to expect things for free because so many other girls are doing it.
    but gracie, there are a handful of models on MFC who dont get nude at all- few of them are top models. men respect you more when you stand your ground. the reason why so many mfc models are doing hardcore for free is because thats what they THINK they have to do and we live in a world where if one person does it, many others follow. those who think for theirselves are the ones who last longer


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    Very good points Loveshooks and Jojo!

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    Hmmm...I'm on the fence about this one. Mainly referring to MFC. I have seen it all. Nude and non nude. I myself dont do nude. I also never make any money there but see girls on the front page fully nude and their page STAYS all yellow. Maybe placement is a factor? I mean, I haven't been on MFC in forever. My cam score is like 800 or something. lol So when I get on, nude/non nude doesnt matter. I still dont make anything there. I dont have a fan base or anything either. So maybe the top girls do and whether they are showing fully nude or not, they seem to always get tips. I cant really base anything on that. So I'm going to just do what I want. BUT, I do agree that MFC maybe put a dent in other sites that dont allow all the nude in free. Guys are starting to expect it more. Not all of them but most. I started on LJ, but didnt make crap as a solo girl. Do great when we do couples there. My main sites right now, are SM and MGF. I need to do more, but I've found better luck on those. And I dont have to pop a boob out to get it =P






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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    Lol, why are you ladies so concerned about who is showing what in free chat? Trust me, do what is best for you and you will see steady income, not everyone makes money the same way so I think it's silly to be so concerned what everyone else does unless you're looking for ideas or pointers. If you don't show boobs in free, good for you- if not, good for you.

    This is an age old argument. For those of use who prefer to be paid to show any part of our goodies it does hurt us in the following ways:

    1) John Q Voyeur gets an eyeful from Suzie Coed who failed to meet her gold show countdown. She gives up, logs off and guess where John Q Voyeur goes next? He comes to my chat room during my gold show countdown and starts telling me (and everyone else in my chat room) that he wont tip unless he can sample the goods, thus disrupting the positive flow of my chat. I do not show nudity, describe the details of my shows or show my toys in free chat. I enjoy the well mannered following it attracts. I don't appreciate my chat room being invaded by assholes. The job is stressful enough.

    2) Disrupting the positive flow of the chat means John Q Voyeur may have affected not only my psyche and attitude, but the psych and attitude of the other potential gold show participants.

    3) Clearly if guys are willing to "tip for tits" and while logging into paid chat will say, "can I see your tits babe?", then he has no reason to tip or buy a show when Suzie Coed just fulfilled his fantasy already.

    4) Bouncing around, dancing, teasing, flashing and bending over without tips with or without a freeloader request in guest chat has always been a paid service. Not only are you hurting your own income potential but you are now hurting the income potential of every single performer on the site.. especially when you give up and (or) log off after receiving no compensation for the show you just provided.

    5) In all 50 states it is a Felony to conduct lewd and lascivious behavior with a minor. I personally have seen the inside of a county jail for 30 days (not related to camming or the adult biz) and know it's not fun. I have no interest in seeing what it's like inside a state penitentiary, and I promise, your stay will be much longer than 30 days. After your 3 to 10 year stint in the state pen you will also be listed and labeled a sexual predator for the rest of your life. THIS just happened to a couple in Florida and we now have a new precedent. This is going to be something that, when it hits, I promise, more than 1 performer will go down. The feds may not work quickly but when they do, they are swift. Think it can't happen to you? Are you familiar with the term "lewd and lascivious behavior"? It's very open ended and pretty much anything, even describing your dildo, or what you plan to do in your cam show can be considered, "lewd and lascivious".

    Just my 2 cents.

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    editing in: We are only under the site umbrella when we are in private chat. As our performer agreement states, we are responsible for our own behavior. The site will not be held liable if you are showing tits to a minor in free chat. You will be the responsible party as a 3rd party contractor. Considering we as performers have no way to verify the age of any person in our free chat, and the job of the site is to verify age on our behalf, why put yourself at risk?
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    ^^Very good points about the laws and trouble we could get in. You never know if some 14 year old is jerking off to your naked boobies and mom walks in on him and freaks out.

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    I had a custie the other night in my room telling me he's 14, lol. I told him he shouldn't be in my room.

    Quote Originally Posted by GracieBlue View Post
    ^^Very good points about the laws and trouble we could get in. You never know if some 14 year old is jerking off to your naked boobies and mom walks in on him and freaks out.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GracieBlue View Post
    ^^Very good points about the laws and trouble we could get in. You never know if some 14 year old is jerking off to your naked boobies and mom walks in on him and freaks out.
    I was just reading some of the Florida laws and found this post worthy: Any cam performer who claims they could not have known the age of the child or even if the child said, "show tits bb " before the performer whipped out her tits has no defense. It's prohibited. This applies to any minor under the age of 18.


    Prohibited Defenses to Lewd or Lascivious Conduct

    Lewd or Lascivious Conduct is a strict liability crime - meaning the intent to commit the crime is irrelevant to a determination of guilt.
    The reason for holding people strictly liable for their acts is to counteract the common arguments that:

    • The child's real age was unknown, thus they did not intentionally engage in sexual activity with a child - a defense that allowed people to engage in willful blindness; or
    • That the child consented to the sexual act - thus putting the responsibility to decline the sexual advance on the young child.

      Prohibited Defense: Consent

      Consent by the child to the sexual act is a statutorily prohibited defense - meaning it cannot even be argued at trial.
      Prohibited Defense: Ignorance of Age

      Ignorance of the child's age is also a statutorily prohibited defense - meaning it cannot be presented through the defendant at trial.

      This means a defendant could not testify that:

      The child lied about his or her age
      or
      There was a bona fide belief the child was old enough to consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    I had a custie the other night in my room telling me he's 14, lol. I told him he shouldn't be in my room.
    Omg! I hope he was just doing some pervy role play.

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    Default Re: Why are you showing boobs and dirty talk in free chat?

    The question is "Why are they showing boobs and talking dirty in free chat?"

    Stupidity?
    Naive?
    Desperate?
    Who knows.

    Just you don't show or talk dirty and all is well.

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    No pvt or exclusive for him. In real life, I prefer them old and almost dead, lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by GracieBlue View Post
    Omg! I hope he was just doing some pervy role play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GracieBlue View Post
    Omg! I hope he was just doing some pervy role play.
    See that's just it. You don't know if he was really 14 or someone RP'ing. If someone tells me they are 14 I take responsibility and remove them from my chat room regardless of the fact that I do not show nudity. The fact is, everything about my chat and my video is sexual. I am an adult. I know better... but then, as previously stated I had a completely non-related, misdemeanor traffic incident which allowed me to catch a glimpse of what my life could really be. I dare not step over that boundary. I don't care if it's some 50 year old perv and I just lost $20. I'm looking at the rest of my life here. I take it very seriously.

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    I'm sorry but lol, I really don't think the feds are going to show up at your house and throw you into the pen for accidently showing your titties online to someone who isn't of age.
    If they did they may as well just start arresting every woman who breast feeds her baby in public too... lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachesxo View Post
    I'm sorry but lol, I really don't think the feds are going to show up at your house and throw you into the pen for accidently showing your titties online to someone who isn't of age.
    Not only do I expect it, as previously stated it has already happened here in Florida and is currently happening nationwide.
    Do you honestly the feds are wearing blinders? This is something that Moms against Internet Porn have been pushing for, for years.

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