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    If I go up on stage early in the night, I do all right, otherwise, i make nada. in my old club where all the girls went on stage every hour, i very rarely left the dressing room aside from that and when people on aske me while i was on stage for dances, and made significantly more there than anywhere since.

    now, having moved to another state and working at other clubs, i dont do well at all. ill talk to guys for a while an ask if they want a dance, and they say yes maybe 1/30 times--most of the ones i get are from them asking me. when i approach someone, i'll usuallyask if i can sit with them. I'll usualy ask them about where theyre from, what they do, and if that doesnt start a conversaton, how they ended up at the club that night.. I know a big problem of mine is that no matter how hard I try to how I feel, I am perceived as shy. i always ask if they want a dance before i go.

    I could seriously use advice on how to approach customers, what to say, etc. -- for the record, though, I can't be brazenly flirty, thats just not in me. I would really appreciate some time and ideas!
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    Default Re: badly need help with basics

    For a start dont hang out in the dressing room.Only go there if you need something then get back out on the floor as quick as you can.
    Approach every customer that is not occupied.Remember some guys will prefer your more subtle approach.Chat for a while but dont forget to actually ask for a dance.Dont wait for the customer to ask you.Some guys are shy as well and even if they want you they might be afraid to ask.
    If the club is really busy dont waste to much time talking.Quick introductions then bite the bullet the worse they can say is no then just move on to the next.Just dont be scared of rejection.Its an inevitable part of this job.Good luck

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    Try to make it seem like even though you are shy, you really like them. A lot of guys respond really well to the idea that the dancer actually likes them in some way. Maybe say, I wanted to come talk to you because you look nice... this could psychologically make him think he IS nice and should act accordingly. Maybe talk for a minute and say, "I'm actually not good in crowds... maybe we can go spend some time in the private room so we can be more comfortable?" Since you are naturally shy it might work for you, for the same reasons why a bubbly girl trying to play shy WON'T work, a true sweet heart won't be able to pull off a dominatrix type, etc. Even though guys come for the fantasy, most of them still appreciate some degree of authenticity.

    If you still can't break in, it just might not be your club. I've been at clubs where other girls did well and made little money, and I've banked at clubs that were considered lower earning potential by some girls. It just has to do with how your look and personality vibe with the average customer and overall atmosphere of a particular place. So maybe a different type of club (smaller, different crowd, etc.) might be easier for you to make money in.

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    Try to get in to the mindset that it's rude NOT to ask them for dances. They're there to be approached by gorgeous women all night; that's something they don't get in the real world. I'm on the shy side as well, but I try to remember that it's my job to make the night an experience for the customers I approach. Be the fantasy. Make them believe you want to drink, talk, and dance with them all night...you like them(their money) so much, you just had to come over and say hello.

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    I agree with BritChick, don't waste your time in the dressing room. You are in the club for a certain number of hours and need to maximize your earnings. Staying hidden in the dressing will not do that.
    Try to seem very friendly and upbeat when you introduce yourself to a new customer. If you make them believe that you are having a grand ole' time, that energy will rub off. Look excited and interested when you ask them about where they are from, what they do. Compliment/flirt on whatever job they do, ie. mechanic: Wow I bet you are really good with your hands. Lawyer: looks and brains! I'm a lucky girl! And so on.
    And lastly, don't ask if they want a dance, TELL them they want a dance. By offering to dance for them, you are giving them the option to say "no". Instead, look directly into their eyes and say: I'm so hot for you baby. I can't wait to take off my clothes for you!! Would you like a dance here or should we skip the formalities and just head head straight into the VIP.

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    Default Re: badly need help with basics

    ^^I agree on the "not asking" for a dance part.
    I usually say, "Wow, I'd really love to dance for you right now" rubbing their arm..or nudging them to the lap dance rooms.
    Makes it seem like I actually WANT to dance for them and doesn't give them the yes or no option.

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    How much time do you spend with each customer? Try not to spend more than 1-3 songs per customer making conversation before telling them it's time for a dance. Also, when you say shy, do you mean, like, cripplingly shy to the point where you don't even believe yourself when you're trying to sell a dance? Dancing is all about sales, and you really need to believe in the product (ie. yourself) for others (customers) to believe in it as well and want to spend their money.

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    Never flat out ask wanna dance? Check out the hustle hut for more info. That's your best bet.

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