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    Hello long time no see! Oakies.. I've been working as an escort almost two years now (my how time flies!) Even though I have an incredibly tame schedule I'm getting burnt out. Some of you know.. it doesn't take much for me to go on hiatus.

    Two friends suggested trying out body rubs and I think that's a brilliant idea! So these past couple days I have been reading up on here and Google and jeez surprising how much more info is out there about an Indy getting into escorting than into FBSM! I found the three really useful how to threads started on here already, and read the few other threads there are with tips and advice so I just have a cpl specific questions.

    The massage table worries me... its enough to be discrete on my own, I just can't imagine not attracting attention going into a hotel/ condo/ etc with a portable massage table. Now I understand the table is better to give a massage on, plus sets a clear boundary opposed to doing it on a bed....... But I just can't get over the idea of walking around with that table. Would it really be a bad thing/ strange if I did body rub dates without one?

    Hrm... I thought I had more questions but that's all for now Thanks!
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    I used to be really strict about not doing it on the bed but now Im less strict on that rule.

    I think it depends on the situation and what you're comfortable with. Plus since I started escorting, when I do it on the bed I can usually get the guy to spring for "extended services" when I massage him on the bed. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Hello long time no see! Oakies.. I've been working as an escort almost two years now (my how time flies!) Even though I have an incredibly tame schedule I'm getting burnt out. Some of you know.. it doesn't take much for me to go on hiatus.

    Two friends suggested trying out body rubs and I think that's a brilliant idea! So these past couple days I have been reading up on here and Google and jeez surprising how much more info is out there about an Indy getting into escorting than into FBSM! I found the three really useful how to threads started on here already, and read the few other threads there are with tips and advice so I just have a cpl specific questions.

    The massage table worries me... its enough to be discrete on my own, I just can't imagine not attracting attention going into a hotel/ condo/ etc with a portable massage table. Now I understand the table is better to give a massage on, plus sets a clear boundary opposed to doing it on a bed....... But I just can't get over the idea of walking around with that table. Would it really be a bad thing/ strange if I did body rub dates without one?

    Hrm... I thought I had more questions but that's all for now Thanks!
    If you have an private apartment incall, then a massage table is essential for a more professsional look
    But can you do bodyrubs without a massage table? Yes ma'am. I can even give you some ideas via pm.
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    I got a massage table off craigslist for like $80, but I don't bring it on outcalls because it's too damn heavy lol.

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    Thanks so much ladies! Yeah I was looking at the weights and size of those things, and really wondering... But... How?!!! Lol! It didn't make sense to me, but didn't want to show up and a guy ask me where my table is like its the norm. Well... That was my only real worry/ concern. I think the rest won't be too much different than escorting...

    Cept for the I don't have to do them part... I could use the break!
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    That's a big easel! Lol yeah considering the size and weight of those things, I would never actually make my way out to an appt... But if things go well and I end up with an incall, then I'll def make sure to get a table.
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    Trust me .. the guys aren't going to give a damn if you have a bed or a table. Some girls prefer a table so the guys don't get any ideas. It's smart.
    Like I told you last night, I don't care if the guys touch me. My thing is .. if your hands can reach it , feel free. Just don't ram your fingers in my vajayjay . LOL!

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    Jeez the mere thought of that irks me... I don't even let guys do that during my sessions. The few times I allowed it, I felt like they were trying to stuff a turkey or something lol

    Well, I'm trying to work out the logistics with how much and if I wanna do it separate or on my existing persona, get some supplies and will probably start putting ads out end of the week.

    I know it'll be easy compared to escorting.... Just that its something new to me and I'm sure it'll bring me a different type of guy since its a different level of service. Just interested to see how it goes!
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    I've considered adding it in too! Just so I can have yet another piece point to reel them in (sometimes I hate this cheap town)

    Mostly though I want actual massage training to add some legitimacy but I'm not sure it's worth it to sacrifice six months of touring, though I could just your smaller towns nearby.....

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    I think it would be a worthwhile investment for you to get a table, not because I think its *weird* to do it without one, but because it's soo much easier on your body in the long run. With a table, you can utilize strength from your legs and core rather than relying on your upper body strength ( because with a table, you're standing up rather than straddling your customer or dealing with varying heights and squishiness of beds and such). Another option you might consider that would be cheaper, lighter, and maybe even sexier, is a shiatsu style set up, which is on the floor, on a futon style mattress. Traditionally this is a clothes on style of massage, but that is neither here nor there. In massage school, we used one or two egg crate mattress toppers, covered with a fitted sheet. This option requires a bit more craftiness to travel discreetly, but I'm sure you can manage! Good luck

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    Yeah I'll see how things are going. If the body rub thing does well, then I'll start offering incall again and have a set up with table. But I know me... If I have to haul, set up and break down equipment everytime, the lower rate for doing BR wouldn't be worth it to me. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be weird or unusual if I didn't bring a table with me to outcall... Cause if so then I would've nixed the idea altogether.

    Ohh about the massage itself. A part of me thinks it would be cool anyway to take classes in massage, but just for the sake of variety. I don't think I'll ever push the idea my BR are theraputic in any kind of way though.
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    Why not take some classes? You may find you enjoy bodywork and you could eventually go legit. All of us have to at some point in our lives, right? Expand your horizons little mama!

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    Different schools offer different class time options - locally - one place has a class all day on Monday 8 hours -- wed /fri 9am till 1 pm - or tue /thur 6pm till 10pm - the course runs 1 year though instead of 6 months - that could still leave you time to travel

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    Oh no worries I'm expanding my horizons lol actually going into massage is not the career path for me. I'd like to one day not touch people for a living lol

    Im actually trying to get into bartending... That's more my speed both in a social and financial way. I've been applying the past couple weeks...

    Worst case scenario, I can always fall back on programming since I've been doing that over 20yrs.

    Last resort, I'll marry rich. But I need my independence so not sure thatll work out for me lol
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    My response was more directed at dixie but i forgot to reply with quote - I sent you a pm sharpie

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    Ooh okay

    I have to say... I do like the spin on this and the way something we can do to expand this aspect of the biz can also be a skill used outside of the biz entirely.
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    yeah but I'm a perfectionist crazy person and want to offer it certified asap LOL

    by the time I'd be done with the class I might not even be working anymore (at least I hope I've figured things out with my lover by then HA)

    whatever I'll probably do it anyway and just tour locally or on weekends once I have the clientele built up......yeah haha

    Sharpie, I totally hear you - bartending would be so much fun!! way less money for the work though, and considering how good you are you probably ought to just raise your rate and only take like one appt a week or something, you know? No reason to give it all up unless it's for true loooooove

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    Not to burst anyone's bubble but Dixie.. did you know that you can have your massage license taken away if they found you were working as a sensual bodyrub worker? It actually could make matters worse. As for nuru, Love it

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    I think Dixie has a great idea - raise your rates - the guys who really "love " you may be willing to take the rate hike -and if not there are always guys looking for a low volume provider - I never really minded the hard work of a vanilla job - I hated the loss of time - I liked the option of being able to participate in my kids life the same way that a stay at home mom would - but having the income of a full time worker - I totally get the burn out issue though
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    Quote Originally Posted by dixievista View Post
    I've considered adding it in too! Just so I can have yet another piece point to reel them in (sometimes I hate this cheap town)

    Mostly though I want actual massage training to add some legitimacy but I'm not sure it's worth it to sacrifice six months of touring, though I could just your smaller towns nearby.....
    If you do get a certification and get busted for giving FBSM, you'll lose your massage license and won't be able to practice in a mainstream massage environment. Just a note.


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    I don't think I'd ever want to practice mainstream, so I wouldn't care - and once I had the training, whether I lost my certification or not, clients wouldn't know! I just know that having had the training would really boost sales

    In my state if you get caught providing massage without a license it's a felony, vs prostitution is a misdemeanor - I'd rather cover my ass if I can, I'm too much of a hot ticket in this city anyway LOL

    And I think I'd wear my wig to classes so I don't look like my massage-providing persona, again to cover my ass

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    I have been thinking about either raising my rates or setting a 2hr minimum. Either way, one or the other will happen at the start of the new year. Most of my clients are multi hour anyway so I might price it like 1hr body rub only. 2hr min gfe. That way I don't have to rate BR cheaper... And I won't head into services for rate as opposed to time for rate, but BR will seem cheaper since it'll be 1hr instead of the 2hr min. I hope that makes sense! Lol

    Bartending around here is actually really good money. My best friend works in a sobe hotel bar about 4 days a wk and complains if she makes less than $1k a week. Now I'd never land a job like that now or for awhile, she has the exp to work in the posh places, but the potential is there.

    Not the same potential as what I'm doing now lol but its good pay with flexible hours. And my friend is always meeting these hot guys at her bar!!! Lol but also if I do meet someone I have a pretty good cover so if it gets serious or in my own I just decide to totally quit escorting, I actually do have a decent job I can still support myself with without having to depend on anyone. That's the goal!
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    That's pretty good then! Sounds like a good plan with your rates - but if you're already getting mostly multihours, you might need a minimum AND an increase to see some results. Depending on your photos, you could increase a lot with the right advertising. Do you have any placement spots on Eros in your city? That usually makes a BIG difference, combined with reaaaaally good photos, like professional shooting and styling and retouching (usually when they're all outsourced separately the vision doesn't remain in tact).

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    While we're on the subject of bodyrubs, what do you girls do about the ones that come in and lie down on their back instead of their stomach? I'm sure y'all know what I'm talking about lol...
    Do you ask them to flip over? Skip straight to the happy ending? I usually end up massaging their calves for like 40 minutes lol. I've noticed the ones that come in and do this are always the ones that try to get waaay more than a bodyrub for no extra $$$. Would love to hear what you do about this!

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    Hey ladies!

    I've been doing body rubs for 4 + years. I've worked in NYC, Chicago, and Miami- where I currently am. I do incall only here in Miami. 200/hr. no half hours. I think a massage table is essential if you are body rub only. If you are willing to do more, then a bed works great because your chances of upselling are better. For outcall massage, there are portable massage tables that come with a cover and even a dolly for ease of transportation. There are plenty of LMT's that go to their clients, so I don't think it will look suspicious at all. As for guys that lie on their backs, I usually just tell them we always start face down. If they refuse I just ask if they want release twice- release, body rub- release...the guys usually tip extra.
    I LOVE doing bodyrubs!

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