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    Default Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    Hi everyone! I've been reading the posts here for a while but never posted bc there's so much info already here.


    Anyway, I've been doing bachelor parties for almost 3 years in Southern California. I've made great money and really enjoy it but had never worked at a club. At a party this guy was telling me and my friend all about this restaurant/club that has dancers at 6pm-2am every night and that they make great money so me and a few girls decided it wouldn't hurt to check it out. It wasn't like a typical strip club, no poles or vip but strobe lights, bottle service and girls giving bikini and topless dances.


    We came in, the owner said hi, you girls are hot, come in any night you want. Didn't ask for an ID or have us fill out an application or anything. The other girls working were super friendly and we started working that night.


    We worked for about 6 months when suddenly 5 cops came in and "busted" us. They asked the customers to leave and gave the 8 girls working tickets for lewd conduct & indecent exposure!!!!!


    2 misdemeanors! We were all DRESSED when they came in - we were about to leave and i had sweats on! The undercover said he didn't see me dancing but to give me a ticket "just in case". There were a few girls who weren't even dancing that they gave tickets to! So I guess the problem is that this place is considered a restaurant and not a strip club. It's not like I strolled into Applebee's and started grinding lol, this is WELL KNOWN as a strip club.


    Is it really my responsibility to check that they have the proper licensing? What should I do?! I have court soon and I've had a ton of medical bills and don't have the money for a lawyer. This on my record could prevent me from getting jobs. Should I deny that I was even working? The undercover identified other girls but have no proof on me. Or should I admit it and tell them I just didn't know it was illegal?


    Any advice is appreciated!!!! Thank you all and make that money$$$

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    I reckon you should be honest. The club should have told you if they were operating illegally!! It seems like they should be getting the blame, not you girls!

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    All you can do is show up and tell the truth: the owner led you guys to believe it was a strip club, and you weren't nude or topless or even in a bikini at the time of ticketing. Mention that the cop have you the ticket "just in case", though that'll quickly turn into a case of he said/she said in court. If you can't get a lawyer, you'll be able to get a court appointed one, but there's no saying what caliber of lawyer they'll be.

    People are expected to know the law, so claiming ignorance isn't a defense. You'd be hard pressed to prove you didn't work there, and I really think it's in your best interest not to lie as it could come out and then you'd be in even bigger trouble. Focus on the facts, hope you get appointed a good lawyer, and best of luck.

    Hopefully Melonie will chime in with some more advice!

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    I'm so sorry this happened to you I hate vice and this cop sounds like one of the real asshole types. Like others have said, just tell them you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and got taken advantage of by the owner. Also say you weren't dancing or naked, you were just a female on the premises of an establishment that was operating illegally. It's all gonna come down to what kind of judge you get and what kind of lawyer you get.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    what the fuck? Ironic.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    have you asked the club if their lawyer would represent you ?

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    have you asked the club if their lawyer would represent you ?
    I would try this too. If they can't represent you hopefully they can give you some type of advice.
    That sucks.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    I got one in Oklahoma for sitting on someone's lap without my top on. It's just because people view our business as immoral, an will therefore do anything in their power to inconvenience us or shut us down.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    The first thing I can think of is that they were busting the place for a prior offense.
    One of the girls at my club explained to me that undercovers come in and get dances, observe, whatever, and that they don't bust right away- they come back another day and do what you just described. So there may have been something that happened on a different day that was not legal for a strip club and that put them in there on the day they came.

    Although, whether the licensing/documenting thing with your club is related to the bust or going to be an issue in court, in the future you should consider that being documented with the club will ultimately be for your safety as well as the club's safety.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    Undoubtedly there is sufficient evidence of you being ( partially ) nude onstage, having some sort of contact with customers etc. that a local judge and jury will find you guilty. If the club did not have an adult entertainment license, then from a technical legal standpoint you were indeed ( partially ) nude in a 'public place' ( because this club allows customers to walk in off the street versus private club with membership etc. ).

    Odds are that the local DA will agree to a 'plea bargain' ... where you get the opportunity to plead guilty to the charge in exchange for zero jail time and a comparatively small fine ( like $500 ). You can do this without a private defense attorney. However, from another technical legal standpoint, this counts as a conviction for a misdemeanor 'sex crime' and will appear on your criminal record for any prospective future employer to plainly see.

    Turning down a 'plea bargain' in favor of going to trial will probably boil down to your word against the word of a well respected local cop ... with a jury of housewives, retirees, civil servants etc. making the choice of which to believe. If the jury finds you innocent, all record of the bust and the trial will be expunged and your record will remain clean. However, if the jury finds you guilty, not only will your record have the same misdemeanot 'sex crime' conviction appearing, but you will probably be hit with a much larger fine ( like > $1000 ) as well as the possibility of having to spend some time as a 'guest of the county'.

    If you can afford it, regardless of which way the local trial goes, you can actually get some real 'justice' at the appeals court level ... where there is no jury, where the judges will ONLY look at hard evidence or lack thereof, etc. However, filing an appeal means coughing up $5,000 to $10,000 in attorney's fees ... with no guarantee that you will actually be found innocent and having your criminal record expunged until AFTER you have spent the money.

    Also, keep in mind that accepting a 'plea bargain' or being found guilty during local trial ( that is not overturned by a subsequent appeal ) will constitute a first offense 'sex crime'. With that first offense on your record, if you continue to dance in the same state and are busted again for a 'sex crime', the charge could escalate to a felony.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    In my plea bargain, it was dropped to "disorderly conduct", and was therefore not a sex crime conviction.

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    Default Re: Just got a ticket for INDECENT EXPOSURE & LEWD CONDUCT at my club!!!!

    ^^^ that was a 'good deal'. If possible, it's important to try and avoid the 'sex crime' designation. However, being that this is an election year, with the DA and Judge probably seeking helpful headlines to aid their re-election campaigns, I'd be surprised if the OP will be as lucky. Retaining a private defense attorney would probably go a long way towards having the 'sex crime' aspect dropped as part of the plea bargain ... but that will mean ponying up $1000-$2000 in attorney's fees unless the club volunteers to provide an attorney. If the local 'public defender' attorney is well connected, that may help in regard to having the 'sex crime' aspect dropped as well.

    The 'timing' of this bust ... i.e. the club operating 'illegally' for many months, but now being busted just prior to election day, smacks of 'headline hunting' by the city council / mayor / DA etc. They will lose their headline if the 'sex crime' aspect is dropped in a plea bargain.
    Last edited by Melonie; 09-28-2012 at 03:15 PM.

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