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    I decided to try my luck at being a sugar babby. I found this older man. He told me his life story. He has muliple degrees and works in multiple metropolitan cities and is a frequent flier. He also wants discretion for his kid's purpose and for his ex's purpose (divorcing, currently separated), and his biz partners as well. He was one of the most vanilla men i have ever met, even in my stripper career.

    I actually liked him!

    So, he is basically paying for a funtime with an educated pretty college girl that wont call when he is in chicago and say, "baby why dont you ever call me and sweet talk me?"

    I keep thinking of just how to hustle him. He is essentially up until a few years ago a family man, and I don't believe he would be one to know of escort blogs/escort culture. I do know that technically Sugar babies dont sleep with their sugar daddies, so please dont flame me I just dont know of any other words.

    For the first date he took me to an expensive sushi restaurant and barely blinked at the $150 bill. I asked him for a small gift to prove that he is in fact real and he gave me a few hundreds in a white envelope for my time. after the date he emailed me, sounding extremely giddy, almost like a college boy. It was cute.



    So, here is my question:
    He wants to meet soon, and that I can*** choose what to do for the date****. I am not sure how to go about this. He also seems willing financially but unsure of how SD/SB relationships work.

    Do i say, take me shopping and drop 3k on me right now! (my wish!) or you choose whatever the heck you want to do, but give me 2-3k!
    or: nice restaurant, public jacuzzi time, lead him into wanting more from me (the art of the tease) and then dont sleep with him until I have my large monthly allowance deposited?

    based on my description of him, how might I go about doing this? (2nd date) Should I ask for gifts right away? Should I ask for money for my time?


    This is my first chance at a really wealthy man who seems normal. I really want to make the most of it. Any tips?
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    I can't really post much at the moment but I call bullshit on the divorce. - I believe he is still happily married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    I can't really post much at the moment but I call bullshit on the divorce. - I believe he is still happily married.
    This. Don't believe everything he tells you, because he could very well know exactly what he's doing and be trying to hustle you as well. The fact that he gave you a few hundred bucks for the first date is a good sign that he's serious about this though. Tread carefully and don't accept everything he tells you at face value.

    Now, you've made it clear what your hopes are from this arrangement, but did you discuss it with him? That's usually the point of the first date: you get to know each other, see if you can get along for this arrangement, and work out the details. Like, when he said he wants to offer 'tuition support' did he clarify what he meant by that? If not, how did you respond? Did you express what you expected (ie. how much money)? If you have no idea what he's looking to pay, and he has no idea how much you want, making the second date a shopping trip could be a good way for you both to get a feel for what the other is expecting.

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    Look up everything you can on him, you can do a few different background checks online, look through his facebook, linkedin etc. The more you know about him the more buttons you can push.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    Agreed with the ladies above, there's probably something he's fudging about his situation. How much have you researched this guy?

    He may be assuming that because you're a young woman who dances for a living, that you won't scrutinize his story that hard, if he flashes around some cash. (Edit - I just went back and saw that you posted he doesn't know about your dancing.)

    Dig deep to find everything you can about him online before proceeding. If he's really worth 12 million dollars, he'll have a significant internet presence. No one makes that kind of money in life without being very shrewd. I find it hard to believe he's completely naive of strip clubs and escorts, particularly if he's on a SD site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    He said that after going through the divroce he feels that "tuition support" or financial support was more honest. He mentioned that it would be great to have a girl to have fun with, and that he liked college girls becuase they would be very appreciative and satsified with tuition support
    The more I think about it the line above has me thinking he may very well be looking for a girl that isn't going to wiggle into his wallet too deep. To me a translation of that line is, "I don't mind spending a few grand, I want a naive college girl to play with who won't get too greedy.

    Even IF he's naive about strippers/escorts, he still managed to make a boat load of cash, don't underestamate him babe.

    Find out the things that excite him. I don't only mean sexually, is he a car guy, fly fishing, does he like cooking for a girl, what are his all time favorite sports teams?(start studying the teams after you know.) If you want to dig deep in to bank account you need to dig deep into his head.

    A High concentration pharamone perfume wouldn't hurt either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    Thanks so much for the tips, guys. I've read past sugar daddy threads and they have helped too. Let's make this a collective of knowledge!

    How do you guys feel about me exposing my stripper past to him as a bargining tool if he feels like offering a few hundred each time is not enough? Might that turn him off? Strippers are known for being manipulative, and shred.

    Should I bring up the idea of a shopping trip if this is the 2nd date and he says we can do whatever you would be interested in doing in that city? Will that come off as greedy to him? Or, should I ask him to give me money for the date instead until an arrangement for an agreement can be discussed? How much? I want to make it subtlely known to him that I will be his fantasy girl in exchange for the right amount of dough
    Ideally, it would be a couple hundred plus a shopping trip. I dont know either/or or both and what both will make me come off as. This relationship is still in the beggining stages and I want it to work.

    I mentioned a resturant that I might want to go to , and he said that is nice and he loves the food. He is also interested in going to other restuarants he has not tried out yet also. I'm thinking this is his subtle way of goughing whether I will act like a princess and demand my restaurant or give in a go to his? As a professional girlfriend, i would aim to please lol. He has so far not mentioned sex but I've alluded to it in flirty terms.


    You girls are the smartest chicks ever.

    I checked and by god, the largest internet prescence ever. Mentioned in Forbes. He is a multi-continental land developer and the family had a (small) political prescence in a small but wealthy European country.

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    It's a little ironic that he's complaining about a money greedy ex wife over a date he found on a sugar site, lol.

    Although experience has shown me that men who complain the most about being used for their wallet, are the ones that always feel they have to buy a woman's attention.

    Not that you should worry about that though. If you find out he's truly wealthy and offering a generous allowance, take him up on it. It's not your problem if he's got issues w/feeling only worthy of women through his wallet.

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    Everyone's got different opinions on how to approach the money thing, but I've found that if a man w/money is very attracted to you, (and is really serious about being a SD), you don't need to worry about asking for it. He'll be so anxious to get you to like him, he'll be tripping over himself to make sure you're happy.

    I'd tell him you're open, to either your suggestion, or if he's got an idea, that's great too, that you trust him to plan a lovely date. (With a flirty smile).

    If you want to shop on the date, you could always make sure the restaurant is near a high end shopping mall, and suggest a stroll after dinner. A stroll that happens to take you right past the Gucci store window.

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    Thanks so much for the tips, guys. I've read past sugar daddy threads and they have helped too. Let's make this a collective of knowledge!

    How do you guys feel about me exposing my stripper past to him as a bargining tool if he feels like offering a few hundred each time is not enough? Might that turn him off? Strippers are known for being manipulative, and shred.

    Should I bring up the idea of a shopping trip if this is the 2nd date and he says we can do whatever you would be interested in doing in that city? Will that come off as greedy to him? Or, should I ask him to give me money for the date instead until an arrangement for an agreement can be discussed? How much? I want to make it subtlely known to him that I will be his fantasy girl in exchange for the right amount of dough
    Ideally, it would be a couple hundred plus a shopping trip. I dont know either/or or both and what both will make me come off as. This relationship is still in the beggining stages and I want it to work.

    I mentioned a resturant that I might want to go to , and he said that is nice and he loves the food. He is also interested in going to other restuarants he has not tried out yet also. I'm thinking this is his subtle way of goughing whether I will act like a princess and demand my restaurant or give in a go to his? As a professional girlfriend, i would aim to please lol. He has so far not mentioned sex but I've alluded to it in flirty terms.


    You girls are the smartest chicks ever.

    I checked and by god, the largest internet prescence ever. Mentioned in Forbes. A multi-continental land developer and the family had a (small) political prescence in a small but wealthy European country. Direct descendent of past royalty. I'm sure his wealth is a combination of working incredibly hard, being smart, and coming from the right family with connections.

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    Everyone's got different opinions on how to approach the money thing, but I've found that if a man w/money is very attracted to you, (and is really serious about being a SD), you don't need to worry about asking for it. He'll be so anxious to get you to like him, he'll be tripping over himself to make sure you're happy. Men like to "peacock", so if he's really rich and generous, he'll be doing nice things for you, w/out your having to ask for them. And if he doesn't, you might as well ditch him, he's not serious.

    I'd tell him you're open, to either your suggestion, or if he's got an idea, that's great too, that you trust him to plan a lovely date. (With a flirty smile).

    If you want to shop on the date, you could always make sure the restaurant is near a high end shopping mall, and suggest a stroll after dinner. A stroll that happens to take you right past the Gucci store window.

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    Don't mention stripping. Since you are taking on the role of pro gf and he has indicated no interest in strip culture in general, leave that out. It's not a part of his fantasy and could very well nix the whole deal.

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    When talking money, make sure it's after a long flirty date, guys tend to make better choices when they have blueballs.

    If it were me, I'd see if he was interested in going shopping and taking him to mid range stores, so you don't look tooo greedy, and giving him a sexy fashion show. Sell it to him as a chance for you two to get to know each other and a chance to find out the types of things he really likes to see you in. You get to find out what outfits get him hard, and probably get some new clothes, then go somewhere where you can get a few drinks in him before you start talking money. Let him really see what he could have, let him have the image in his head for hours, get a few drinks in him, he'll be way more plyable that way.

    One tip I learned from some old marketing mp3s is, This marketing/sales expert would teach people like chiropractors to practice saying how much they are going to charge a client in the mirror so they can be confidenty nonchalant about it. You might want to think of what you really want and how much you can get out of him then start practicing. "I was thinking $10 000 a month would be pretty fair to start with.(sexy flirty pouty smile)"

    And keep digging for info on him. I havn't done one but I've heard some background checks can even tell you what porn sites he goes to or maybe let you know if he's on any hobbyist forums, kinks, etc. Even try not only googling his known email addys, usernames, etc, but try other searches like bing, yahoo, to seach, sometimes they have different results. If you find out he's into leather, what are you gonna wear on the next date?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    He knows by contacting you on a SD site that there is an expectation of money - I would stay away from the stripping past - price high and justify - be confident when you do - he will never believe you are worth it if you don't - it is much harder to raise your agreement once it is made -

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    i think you are nervous and overworking yourself here. DO NOT tell him about ur stripping past! (just repeating the ladies here) i think it will kill his fantasy and he will KNOW that you are constantly mentally working him. you are playing a role here and "actress" just remember and treat it like how you would hustle a whale in the club but instead of club setting, you are outside in the real world. use that to your advantage! you got alot of tools at your hand to work him like you need to. use every situation to your advantage. he's got alot of money, he thinks he is smarter than you in the sense that he thinks that you are a 'naive college girl'. be cunning like the fox! hehe

    also read "why men love bitches" that book can only help you improve your game. good luck and keep posting as you go along if you can, i am interested to know what happens

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...t-REALLY-works

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    Update!!
    Ok, so last friday we went on another date. This has quickly escalated into an escort senario. how to turn it back?

    So far, I really do like him, as he is straightforward and pretty decent looking. How shall I do this, girls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    This has quickly escalated into an escort senario.
    He has made his intentions and expectations crystal clear. Tread carefully.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    If things didn't work out, he would give me a "leaving gift" of maybe 10k or so instead of tuition for my time spent with him in testing if we were intimately compatible if he didn't like me intimately. If I didn't like him intimately, then he wouldn't give me a leaving gift.
    lol bullshit. There's no way in hell you are going to get 10k out of him as a 'leaving gift', so forget about that right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    He kept asking me why I needed so much money if I was just a college girl. I told him I had undergrad debt. He said that he was ok with helping girls with education expenses and helping them secure jobs if they are qualified through his various networks since he owns several companies.
    Because of this and how often he talks about tuition support, I wouldn't bring up your real reasons for wanting money. Come up with an expensive school that you could say you did your undergrad at so such a high sum is feasible as your debt. You're supposed to be his fantasy and play up to his desires - that's the way to his wallet.

    FWIW - 30k-100k is totally doable to make as a stripper in a year if you're a good hustler and work often. I know you're burnt out, but playing this sugar daddy is going to take up way more energy than hustling dudes in the club, so just bear that in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    So this is what I’m thinking: he has texted twice since then, without me contacting him, saying he wants some “us time.” I’m thinking tell him I want to do a daytime date to get to know him a little better, and if the date goes well and I still have the hot’s for him, to get tested at a private STD clinic before it closes, together. Of course prior to the STD clinic visit we would agree on an amount, in person, with him having several drinks and blue balls.
    I am assuming you have no intention of fucking him on this date, considering you're expecting him to get blue balls from the alcohol. Personally, I wouldn't bring up going to get tested myself. Let him do it. You want to drag this out as long as possible, because as soon as you fuck him, the amount of money you can command from him will go down. Also, STD tests don't provide you instant results - generally you can expect to wait a couple of weeks for results, so that'll buy you extra time. Finally, please don't insist on drinking before going to the clinic. Showing up drunk is just asking for trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    I’m thinking of 15k/month allowance instead of the 1k/private meeting with a 10k leaving gift. I want my money upfront, dammit! hope to make it last several month if not more!
    How many dates and private meetings will that 15k a month get him? How much contact will that get him outside of the dates/meetings (ie. sexy emails)? Set the parameters early and stick to them. Also, like I said earlier, forget about that 10k "parting gift." Don't include it in your negotiations or expect it - let it be a nice surprise in the odd chance that he does live up to it.

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    Going to get tested....
    ...Daddy doesn't like condoms.
    I'm sure you've thought of it, already, but you could hope his ex-wife wins a huge child support settlement so you can argue parody in your child support case. ;-)

    You did say wanted to drag this out as long as possible.
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    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    Rich men love to lie, and hate to spend unless it makes them ~*appear richer*~. This isn't true for all obviously, but in general its been proven time & time again. Psychological studies have been done to prove that, the more money you have, the more traditionally "immoral" you are. (<--- Hey I don't hate on that, the stuff we talk about on SW is considered traditionally immoral TBH lol) That would including lying to get what you want, and purposely deceiving people. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was playing you, trying to manipulate you to get free sex and eye candy to make his richer friends jealous. And this is all why I believe the art of sugarbabying is pretty much dead unless you get reeeeeeally lucky and stumble across 1.) a really generous man who genuinely only wants to pay for companionship (very rare, but out there), or 2.) a genuinely stupid SD whose vulnerability (divorce?) allows him to get played by YOU. So I hope he is one of those 2.

    I would play up the bratty young flirty lolita role, TBH. Bc all SD's have an expiration date, some sooner than others. So start milking it from the beginning. If you look young, be the bratty lolita. If you look elegant and classy, play up the classy snobby but sweet bitch. Totally depends on what you look like, but find your "bratty" niche and milk it. SD's will spend the most when you act like how someone would think you act just by looking at you. So find the bratty version of that, and exaggerate it, but still be nice & flirty.

    Make it clear, without saying it, that you need to be spoiled or there are other men out there that will spoil you. Lead him on, he's paying for the chase. Demand, in a cute bratty way, that he takes you shopping for the first date, and then end with dinner. At dinner, start talking about all the fun things you want to do with him like jacuzzi time, etc., making him think that you will eventually fuck him. So it more and more each date, and then just disappear one day and smile at all the gifts/cash you made off him. I didn't have sex with mine, but since you said you're pretty much going to, DO NOT do it right away or you'll probably never hear from him again after that. Men love the chase. He can get all the sex he wants (escorts), but what he CAN'T get, is the chase. And that's what he wants. Its a biological instinct in men to hunt and trap.

    DO NOT tell him you are/were a stripper!!!!! Let him keep thinking you're the bratty flirty college girl, and make up college stories. You better be able to talk about what you're studying and what you want to do when you graduate. Just make it up. Now you're studying business and you want to work for such-and-such. Pick a lucrative fake career/major otherwise you'll get a lecture from your SD probably. Talk about how much time you spending studying. Tell him you're so stressed and need a spa day asap (that could also be a date I guess?). Things like that.

    I was a sugarbaby for less than a year, and found it to be way more trouble than it was worth, just trying to feed out fake SDs (which is probably 95% of seekingarrangement, sugardaddy4me, etc). In the end it wasn't really worth it, but I did have a couple SDs that were lots of fun. I'm glad I did it for the experience, but I really feel like its more trouble than its worth if you have to ~*try hard*~ to get him to spend on you (which you usually do for most of them except the well-off-but-not-extremely-wealthy men).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotherTang View Post
    I'm glad I did it for the experience, but I really feel like its more trouble than its worth if you have to ~*try hard*~ to get him to spend on you (which you usually do for most of them except the well-off-but-not-extremely-wealthy men).
    This is the truth. If I look back on the men who spent the most money on me, it was always the ones I didn't have to try that hard to get it from.

    Some of what a man spends on you depends on working him properly, but at the end of the day, he's either charmed by you and generous or he's not. If he's already a generous guy who just needs a little nudge, and some excitement of the chase, that should come pretty easily.

    If it starts becoming a big push-pull situation, where it's pulling teeth to get money from him, might as well forget it. Many women have gone down this path, only to find themselves really regretting it, because they saw dollar signs, and let it blind them to the fact that the guy was just a selfish dick. If you start feeling like you have to really come up with machinations to get money out of a man, that can often lead to bad decisions, (like "accidentally" getting pregnant, resorting to blackmail, or, ugh, essentially begging).


    Easily gotten money is the best money, when it comes to money from men.

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    This whole thread just makes me cringe. First of all, A sugardaddy is not a strip club client - if you have to "hustle" him - he's not a sugardaddy.
    There's so much "fail" in this thread. You are doing it all wrong.

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    Update/would greatly appreciate more advice :

    background: This man makes 10million a year, and is undergoing a divorce with his wife whom he does not have a prenup with. he claims that the court looks over all his transactions and his living expenses while undergoing the divorce to determine how much they should allot to his wife.

    Of course, I *dont* know if any of this is true.

    He initally offered me full tution support for the arrangement after STD testing. We got tested becuae he claims he is absolutely paranoid of std's. He showed me his records for garadsil, hep b, and spent half an hour talking about how sad it was his daughter got herpes I (cold sores) at school.

    However, He laster told me it iwas tuition support divided by 12 (what a pittance of nothing!) That would NOT be much money for me.

    I want 10 k/month for 2 meetings/month minimum. I would be ok with 6K. For the amount that he makes, he is truely being stingy if my tuition is (insert low amount) divided by 12 is nothing! My tuition is not that much!

    What is Really want: money for my necessary jaw surgery--it would change my life!!!--- but I dont think he will help me out with that. He seems to only want to help people if they need stuff that is in line with what he thinks is important, such as education.

    I was thinking of being direct (bad idea!!!??) with him and saying, "I am not comfortable with an arrangement with you IF you only help me out based upon if what I need is in line with your philantrophic vision." It should not matter what I do with this money. All that should matter is we have a great time together. You do have the power to decide how much you help me out or not, but I am able to decide also to accept or reject that offer"

    --should I lie about my tuition since he's giving me cash anyways?
    --He thinks my tuition is 40-50 k/year since he is used to expensive private universities. Should I say that is my tuition (50K) and have him divide is by 12 which is 4 k/month and take that whilst figuring out other ways/drop him after one meetingn (the 4k meeting!)


    It is definitely true when they say the wealthiest men are the stingiest! He seems to be uncomfortable having to pay for intimacy...and he wants power over how much he helps me out with. I know that the best professional girlfriends are able to MAKE the guy think he's in power, but really they are laughing as they walk out with tens of thousands...Hw would I do that?

    We are to talk on the phone early next week to determine just how the arrangement will work.

    He is willing to take me to restaurants that cost 1k since he could write it of for taxes....



    thank you and I appreciate your time and advice very much
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    Personally, I'd drop this guy, like, weeks ago because he's already way more trouble than he's worth to you. I'd also recommend focusing more on hustling guys in the club, because it seems like you're very naive and unsure of how to proceed in any step of your interactions with him, and you have to be able to think on your feet with a sugar daddy.

    But anyway -

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    he claims that the court looks over all his transactions and his living expenses while undergoing the divorce to determine how much they should allot to his wife.
    lol what. Stop believing everything he tells you. They aren't tracking all of his expenses, this is just his way of trying to give you less so the court doesn't "track" it.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    He initally offered me full tution support for the arrangement after STD testing. [...] However, He laster told me it iwas tuition support divided by 12 (what a pittance of nothing!) That would NOT be much money for me.
    This is when you walk away. He reneged on an agreement after you did your part (getting tested). In future, get the cash first or else you will get burned again because there are too many men out there who will try and get as much out of you as possible for as little as possible/nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    I want 10 k/month for 2 meetings/month minimum. I would be ok with 6K. For the amount that he makes, he is truely being stingy if my tuition is (insert low amount) divided by 12 is nothing!
    See, he wants as much as he can get for the bare minimum. Stop being so willing to negotiate yourself down so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    He seems to only want to help people if they need stuff that is in line with what he thinks is important, such as education. I was thinking of being direct (bad idea!!!??) with him and saying, "I am not comfortable with an arrangement with you IF you only help me out based upon if what I need is in line with your philantrophic vision." It should not matter what I do with this money. All that should matter is we have a great time together. You do have the power to decide how much you help me out or not, but I am able to decide also to accept or reject that offer"
    No. Others in this thread have already advised you against this. SDs don't want your honesty - they want the fantasy of a beautiful girl who wants to spend time with them that they get to shower with gifts. He's made it crystal clear what he wants and expects from you, and it's totally out of line with what you want and expect from him. Move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    We are to talk on the phone early next week to determine just how the arrangement will work.
    I still think you should just cut your losses and drop him, but if you're set on a last ditch attempt, tell him you need 10k a month for tuition, books, school supplies, etc. If he insists on 4k, tell him you're worth more than that and be done with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by macycharm View Post
    He is willing to take me to restaurants that cost 1k since he could write it of for taxes....
    You're not a streed child. Don't accept payment in food.

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    I have dealt with wealthy men - they ALWAYS - ALWAYS - have money/property/businesses sitting somewhere that wifey doesnt know about - he is full of shit - you had a plan and he is steering you away from it - he knows what he is doing - stick to your plan or move on unless you are willing to accept 1k a week - and that is IF you get that out of him - has he given you ANYTHING since your initial meeting?

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    thanks so much for the advice guys!
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