i want to convert them to paying customers there if I can.



i want to convert them to paying customers there if I can.
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Hi. I'm super new to escorting so I'm only starting to figure everything out, but I get basically all of my clients from the two main review boards in my area. I screen by requiring references from other providers, and also by checking out my potential clients' posts on the boards. If I can't verify them with at least one of their references I wont see them. I miss out on clients sometimes because a lot of girls are flaky about responding to reference checks, but my safety is the most important thing, and there are always more clients. And if the client has written any rude reviews or they seem like a douche based on other things they've posted on the boards, I also wont see them. So far all of my clients have been very gentlemanly.
I can't imagine not including my rates in my advertising. Everyone in my city does it. But also most girls in my city straight up say what they will or wont do. A lot of them don't even try to be sly and use acronyms or code words. I have my hourly rates in my ads, and that I'm GFE which does imply certain sexual acts, but I'm also not super paranoid about getting arrested. I kinda feel like, why would they come after me, instead of the girls who are literally advertising $50 blowjobs? They put it right out there! I don't know how they get away with it.



P.S. Craigslist adult services is long gone, and I would avoid backpage. Maybe it's different in other areas, but in my city Backpage seems to be girls who are one step above street workers. No offense meant to those ladies, but if you're looking for wealthy businessmen and/or want to charge high rates, Backpage probably isn't your best bet.



AnnaPDX you give me a lot to think about, thank you
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Where are the better review sites? seems like usasexguide is seedy, seen too many stories of girls there doing bb and giving it all up for 30$ thats insane!!![]()
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I was really hoping Sharpie would reply to this but here goes...
First of all, why are you using skype? Most escorts don't do that. If you are just starting out and want to be taken seriously, why don't you just screen the guy as you normally would and stop wasting your time doing free camshows? What you're doing is totally unnecessary. What part of the country are you? BP can be good depending on where you're at but you need to stop advertising on CL if you want to be taken seriously. And yes the guys have ever right to think you're doing free camshows. You're the one in the wrong for offering it to escort clients. They are not like webcam custies. Two different breeds. They do not believe it's something they have to pay for unless you tell them.Here's my situation: Right now, I need the cash to get my driver's license back. After that I'd like to do outcall and incall but in a hotel in a nicer area of town. I live in a motorhome in a secluded, rural area between two cities. I wanted to advertise on backpage, CL or wherever it is ''safe'' and advertise for INCALL only for now.. but as soon as i get my license back I most certainly won't be doing my incall here. I want to be able to screen my clients so I thought about getting on Skype with them but so far its been nothing but freebie abusers who just want to yank it while we chat. I would rather do the skype shows but even that does not seem to be going over so well. Do they think that im just here to be on cam for FREE? I think not!!!
If you are absent minded you can get into a lot of trouble doing outcall. If you are smart and think quick on your feet, it will be a cake walk.Anyway what's the best way to go about this? If I could nab even just a few gentlemen callers who are older and who are looking for a clean, independent drama free girl, then things might be ok to let them come here at least a few times, but thereafter I plan on traveling to them. The thing that scares me about outcall is that you never know what kind of situation you are getting yourself into.
You must always trust your instincts. I've been escorting for 3 1/2 years and an agency girl for the first 6 months of my journey, I have never been busted so it is possible to stay out of trouble. If you're going to do outcall, you must SCREEN. If you're going to do incalls, you must SCREEN. It also helps a lot to research your local laws to see what the consequences are IF you ever got in trouble. Screening lowers your chances of being busted, raped or beaten NOT skype shows. Skype shows are great if you want the guys to know that you're real. If I were you I'd call it a cam verification, make it optional and charge for it.
I really hope you don't plan on using your own home for this.The rural road that I live off would be a pretty far drive from the main road. its a good mile and a half down a dirt road. Nothin' but farmland all around me and it is super secluded.
My advice to you is this: If you live in a super small town don't even try it. Go to another city for a few days to a week to try things out if you can.How can a girl possibly advertise, screen clients and do incall without getting busted? In my town even just soliciting can be a crime let alone letting a cop do the deed with me only to slap on the cuffs.. sheesh.. I dont want to get busted it would be so embarassing for my husbands family. im staying in my motorhome on my brother in laws property. he never visits me without calling first tho and he lives on the other side of town.
There is no way to gurantee that you won't get busted. you can screen your ass off and still get busted, you can not incriminate yourself via email or on the phone and still get busted - Screening/trusting your instincts only lowers your chances of getting busted. Makes sense? I know girls that go beyond screening and collect deposits before the date so no money exchanges hands in person. This wouldn't work if you're new but once you build up your rep - you could consider doing this though I know some guys will frown on it. I know girls that meet in a local coffee shop first to chat first or meet at the hotel lobby to see if their date is someone they would want to see bcd BUT for some reason, I'm not comfortable with these practices. I'm just throwing out ideas for you.
You already said it: Trust your instincts. It'll save your ass.Whats the one tip that you can give to an experienced girl who's inexperienced with screening calls and with doing incall in such a rural location? I am clean, in good shape [except for my teeth, which i am embarrassed about by the way and looking forward to getting the money to get 'em fixed], I smoke but do not drink and plan on quitting smoking this year. no children. i am 33. I am also working on putting together a website.
As for screening, google myhoneysuckle - she has a great screening article.
Oh and another tip, never flush condoms. Ha! When I was touring boston, I flushed a few condoms
down the toilet and they got stuck. I had to call hotel plumbing to get it out. It was SO humiliating.
That's tip number twoLOL!
It all depends on your location. In some states, you can walk out of a sting by talking your way out of it. In other states, you're busted as no mater what you say. I know in Columbia, SC , escorts aren't taken to jail if caught - they're written a ticket. In other states, you're arrested and taken to jail immediately. It all depends on your location. I can't research your location for you. You need to know your local laws. Again CL does not allow adult ads anymore so you need to find other places to advertise. Discussing price in ads is only a no no on backpage, I know it's allowed on eros guide. As for reviews, not every client is a reviewer - It could break your business more than anything if you're a horrible companion.What if when they visit they put the money on the counter after they come in? What if price is discussed on the phone but I tell them that the cost is for modeling or photos or for sexy emails? What would make my CL/Backpage/AdultWork.com ad copy make me look like a total noob to law enforcement? As I understand it, acronyms are a no-no, and discussing price in ads are a no-no [even tho one site has you set a rate along with your ad?! how do they get away with it!] I also understand that reviews can make or break a girl.
This is not a good idea. You need to stick to escort ads sites.I got a job with an SMS sexting firm and i plan on supplementing my income with them. I plan on ''upselling'' my SMS Sexting number to certain clients so i can make some monies off them even when I'm not in the mood to meet in person or just for whenever.
SMS clients are SMS clients. Do not mix the two.
I also doubt the company you work for would appreciate this.
You don't sound like you're doing this because you want to but only because you have to. Being desperate leads to big mistakes.Maybe if you are in the daytona beach area you could mentor me? Im pretty desperate at this point to make my way back in the biz but I know..I know, desperate actions can lead to costly mistakes. And yes I am doing this because I want to, not because I have to. I actually LIKE the biz, it can be exciting at times and i feel a special place in my heart for those [much older] men that really took care of me throughout the years. Most of them were really nice guys and that's the kind of clientele that I want to build in my area, business men, family men, and older gents with a disposable income. my prices are double what others are charging and i got calls anyway but i never answered them, they went to voicemail.
You should really sit down adn think things through before acting on impulse. Men can smell desperation from a mile away.



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I'm going to take a long time taking all of this in and reconsider my line of attack. Thank you, to both of you!
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http://www.myhoneysuckle.com/avoid-t...g-for-escorts/ _> this page makes a lot of sense!! I never realized how much work is involved but in the end...totally worth it!
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I see how you are! Want me to be the bad guy eh?!Seriously though, just saw this thread
Hey Sinn! I too am in FL...down in Miami. Just a side note
Okay, Lovely already hit up on a lot of the things I was thinking as I read your post. Just to give you lil bit of background, I have been a phone girl, a cam girl, and now an escort. Lovely is 100% correct, the phone /cam / sms guys are a *completely different market* than the escort guys. Mixing all of it together in any kind of way is just going to get you pissed off and wont be of financial benefit to you.
Its perfectly fine if you want to do sms / cam / phone as supplemental income, but market yourself to the guys who are actually going to pay for it. With few exceptions, guys who actually will pay to see you as an escort, are not going to be interested in your cam/sms, and alternatively, guys who are interested in your cam / sms will think its exciting they are talking to a *real life escort!!* but not actually book any dates with you. The nice thing though about that method, is while with escorting you are limited to guys you can see, with cam / sms you are only limited to anyone with a phone or internet connection.
Do not do incall at your home. I mean, like flat out, just dont do it. To be honest, when you described how rural your area is, Im not not even thinking cops, Im thinking...would anyone be able to hear her scream? That whole scenario just reeks of horror movie plot line to me. Its just not safe at all...
There is business to be had in Daytona Beach...we're hitting into season, so you probably have a lot of snow birds coming down for the winter to spend time in their winter homes, so you really shouldnt have to leave DB to make money, but you will have to find a way out of the rural area youre in and get closer to the city/burbs of DB.
Considering you dont have your license right now and have to rely on cabs or public transpo means outcall is out of the question anyway and does have me scratching my head for options. All I can say for sure right now is that incall at your house is not an option. Also, booking a hotel so close to where you live, esp on a regular basis, would throw up a red flag, so Im kind of at a loss. Im going to brainstorm here to see what I come up with.
About meeting a guy in a parking lot and getting in his car to go to his place...dont do it! Dont ever do it. Please....I swear that is one of the scariest things I have heard. Now thats not to say I havnt done itBut it was with regs who I have known almost a year, while we were on a trip together. But I would never meet up with guys I first meet/barely know/be trapped in their car/in their house and at their mercy. Again...horror movie plot line comes to mind. You are very very new to this and some of your ideas really give me the vibe that a guy will be able to tell how new you are, and try to use it to their advantage. So dont take your chances...work on a level of extreme paranoia and complete distrust until you learn the ropes and have the experience to rely on your gut to not be as strict.
As far as advertising, your area happens to be the only portion of FL that I dont know of any local / popular places to advertise. Everything I know of is for Central / Gulf Coast and of course South Fl. Do not blow off backpage though...on one hand there is heat there, on the other hand, BP is incredibly popular for FL. If you are not charging the rates that the $50 BJ girls are charging, then youre not competing with them anyway. Not all guys want a $50 BJ girl....most guys with any common sense are scared to death of the $50 BJ girls,either of what theyll transmit or getting beaten and robbed by her pimp. So dont worry about what the other girls are doing, you do you. Other than that, TER would be an option since its big in FL. CL is not an option.
As for setting rates in advertising..if the site youre putting your ad on allows it, by all means list your rate, if it doesnt allow it, then dont break the rules. I personally never list what I do or what a guy can expect on a date...no Acros (except for GFE, because it doesnt list or prove any specific sexual act) no expressions, no cheeky innuendos...Im a companion and thats it. If a guy asks, I direct him to read my reviews. If thats not good enough for him, then conversation over and I dont see him. Most guys who arent stupid or LE arent going to talk about sex because arent trying to get busted either. Even before I had any reviews at all, I would just decline to talk about anything sexual. So thats pretty much it for that..dont mention money and sex together. Though Im paranoid and dont talk about money either. Its on my website and in most of my ads..if a guy wants to know..look it up dont ask me about it. Guys rarely ask me my rate though.
Skyping is not screening...I wouldnt want to be in the same room with about 99% of the guys Ive done cam shows with..and I did cam for like 6 years. Screening is putting in your best effort to make sure a guy is not LE, and also in making sure hes not a woman hating psycho. Thats not usually stuff they will reveal to you until after youre together. Please do a search on here, there is a ton of resources and links about screening. Way too much to put here and my post is getting long enough as it is
Oh, about the serial killer...yeah, I hate to sound cold and all but, there isnt a whole heck of a lot to do in FL...so many backwoods and rural areas, why else would people gator wrestleBut anyway, Floridians are nuts. And guys are nuts. But both the dangerous guys and LE first go after low hanging fruit..the girls who make it easy for them to catch. By screening, not being a BP girl or SW type mentality will make you inconvenient to go after. We have a really high rate of SW/BB girls getting arrested, attacked, killed...but Independents / agency girls in much lower numbers. So while inconvenient, not impossible..got to keep your guard up, screen, dont trust these guys at any time period. Especially if they say you can trust them...creepiest thing a guy can say to me.
Oh! speaking of agencies...have you considered that route? Especially since you are very new, and have no transportation, that might be the best option for you now. I dont know abotu up there, but down here of the agencies Im familiar with, they rent the room for incall and have drivers. So not only could you get a ride to where the incall is, but if they send you to outcall, you would have a driver take you there...dual transpo and security for you. Thats something to seriously consider, at least til you have your license.
Okay, Ill stop typing now. My fingers hurt![]()
Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink!
You live in the middle of secluded farmland with no neighbours and you want to do incalls with a serial killer on the loose in your area??!! That sounds seriously scary. Is there an alternative way for you to get started? Like cam first and invest your profits in catching a bus/train/plane to a nearby city to work a few days of the week?
Goodluck and be safe!
^I was thinking the same thing. It sounds like youre in need of some start up $. You obviously have what you need to cam if you were doing skype verifications, so why not cam for a few weeks, get the money for a DL (at min) and youd have money to invest in hotels and ads and whatever else is involved.
PrincessJenny is still offering dailypay on Streamate- if you sign up under her, she can get you working quick and anything you earn will be deposited into your bank account the next day - http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/for...c.php?f=5&t=25



Its too bad that I don't have access to a printer. I do have a scanner, though...and mobile internet [mifi device +ipod]. I got on with the SMS site by reading threads here - they didnt want a signed app, just a form and drivers license photo
I have learned so much from just this one thread alone. I have a lot of respect for you ladies.
and yes Daytona is weird and dangerous but there's lots of rich old men...like my older gentleman who saw me every week for 5 years! He even paid for the cab to his place. Too bad his other love interest got his million dollar house on the river. Barry was a really nice guy. - but she had to take care of him in his last year of life. for 10 yrs she saw him - patience pays.. but none of the older guys in the old circles that i knew back in the early to mid 90s are around anymore.
Im gonna wait until i can be mobile [with my license] and then im gonna screen the hell out of my clients, meet them for coffee perhaps the first time
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...double post again, my bad
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"Considering you dont have your license right now and have to rely on cabs or public transpo means outcall is out of the question anyway and does have me scratching my head for options. All I can say for sure right now is that incall at your house is not an option. Also, booking a hotel so close to where you live, esp on a regular basis, would throw up a red flag, so Im kind of at a loss. Im going to brainstorm here to see what I come up with."
I wouldn't mind going to beachside and getting a room in one of the better hotels until I can afford an apartment or beach house rental.
I have a friend traveling here on the 20th and I think that he's going to help me get my license back. He's a nice enough guy but i see him as a brother more than anything else. Since my husband passed away [last week] it feels like all the wolves in the family are at my door..even my husband's long time pot dealer whom is a millionaire by the way. last time that he was here he kissed me on my neck and hugged me and his hand got reeealy low on my back too. I just know that he is DYING to ask me if I would spend some time with him [even tho hes married!]
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