


honestly dont give away vids/pics anything extra in a goldshow unless they pledge like $50.00 toward the show. I have been seeing so many girls stating if you just send 5-10 $$ you can get free shit plus the GS. I think thats ridiculous! I dont have any vids or pic sets to give away with GS's and I do make my goals, I'd say 65-70 % of the time. But sometimes I catch myself being like "cmon join guys, " "aww maan you gotta join my show, i wanna fuck" It kinda pisses me off when i do that its like DAMN REALLY??? I sometimes wanna log off when i catch myself saying that. MEh.. its like cmon I shouldnt have to try this hard to make Goal its such a awesome deal for THEM, its stupid not to.
I honestly enjoy Exclusives and GS's.....haha im starting to hate regular private..i feel its not worth it.
I find this works best for me..for countdowns and ive been seeing others do the same: 3 gold for 5 mins with a $200 Goal...thats usually when i make it.


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OK....very funny this thread popped up. IT HAS GONE TO SHIT WHEN CUSTOMERS NOTICE AS WELL! Yes, I have had more than one regular THIS WEEK ask or comment about why it is so hard to reach goal. It is becoming more noticeable across the board.
It use to take 5 FLAT mins to raise 100 and 15 to raise 300...now it takes 15 to raise 150.... wtf? has? happened? I love doing gold shows. I love privates. I love money. Right now I feel we are in a 3rd world country trying to make a dollar. Its sad..... ESP when customers notice.





Ok I just tried a few randoms = $4/5min and a $3/4min and a $2/6min just to play around to see if any of them would be easier for me... and I'm thinking of sticking out with the $1/min because I only got 1 pledge in 1 of these shows. That's 2 shows I didn't even get 1 pledge. On a friday... wtf? I'm thinking of lowering my rates next week as well




I've had success with them all week up till tonight.
I made like $43 in an hour and a bit. :| So, SO bad!!! Luckily I've made more than enough this week to keep me safe though. But damn... what a shitty night tonight was. Encoder was fucking up too.





Yah I only offer videos for $25 pledge... I hate when I see people offering videos regularly for the pledge amount. I have done that on rare occasion but only when the buy in is higher ($10+).
I also am starting to feel like private is just not worth it... so many times last night, every single private I had I would have the initial guy in there for several minutes and each time at least 10 different guys pop in and out and never get charged! GRR!!!
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I WOULD NOT ADVISE LOWERING RATES , NOT AT ALL. They get the "deal"with gold shows. I play with those all day long and when CAMTV is pushing shows I try to go along with what they are doing. Lowering rates will bring you a much cheaper crowd, more beggars blah blah. Im not saying DO NOT lower your rates but please think about it. If anything raise them to a ridiculous amount then go back to your normal rate and guys will appreciate the "normal" rate.![]()





^^^ I second that.
I'm coming to the conclusion that lower rates make it harder to reach your goal. Think about it - if you have a $100 goal, you need a hundred guys to pledge a dollar to reach it. But if you are setting your pledge HIGH - $10..you only need to seduce in ten people. I'm usually in the top 20 on SM, but I STILL don't tend to get more than 25-30 people in the room at any one time. If I did a 20 min countdown, and assume that there is a full cycle of customers every 5 minutes, I would have to have every single person pledge in to reach my goal.
On top of that, I think that everyone agrees that the higher your rates are, the "better" your customers are. It seems that the cheapos are the ones that bark orders, treat you badly, insult you, etc etc etc. The guys who have the money and the willingness to spend LOTS of it are usually much nicer. And I would much rather have a show with ten guys who are polite, than 100 guys who are just assholes!!
And in terms of the show cutting out - you are more likely to have an issue with the connection crapping out if you are trying to stream to 100 people, than if you are streaming to 10 or 20. So higher buy in = less people watching = less chance of losing everything part way through the show.
I'd also much rather to perform to less people - not that I care who sees it, but because it is easier to connect with and keep a group of 10-20 people happy than to try and interact with 100+ people!! Christ, it is hard enough keeping up when I am just trying to answer questions in free chat and there are 30 people all talking at once!
I feel like the $1 gold shows are a good tool for ladies that have a HUGE following, and do a lot of shows at a higher rate - the show is the deal, not the norm, and they can promote it heavily enough to basically guarantee having enough people buy in....
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I was contemplating to start it for a while now , I was kind of hoping others would start it so I dont have to
the mind game with the gold shows can get very interesting..
I start to feel like its MFC all over again..
herd mentality.. "most pledged. ah!what the heck, Ill pledge to..." type of thing..
no one pledged YET... ah, then I wont... shes no good..
I have zero experience in running my own but having done research. I have found that a lot of the girls who run a gold show often run out of time to do what their show is going to be in the description heading within the time limit that they impose. They appear to be beneficial as a preview for what to expect in a proper premium or exclusive.
Between the introduction of the show where the customers are greeted, clothing removed and having to deal with the demands of the customers... it's no surprise really.




I think 6 minutes or however many minutes I'm proposing to do the GS in is always enough time to do what I say Im going to do. I usually say Im going to do one thing and do it, usually with time left over.... A six minute private with me would cost them over $30....more if they wanted exclusive.. And I take my sweet time in privates whereas in GS i just go through the motions... So a GS should be a freakin' steal.... I think the point is most guys who are attracted to GS rooms are just too freaking cheap to pay almost 90% less than a normal show with these girls would normally cost them and thats just so pathetic.





I feel gold shows should be a true "show" and there should be no customers actually making requests during the show (with the exception of perhaps a single high tipper who tipped over $20 choosing positions). I'm not going to take requests from viewers when they paid only a few dollars. To me that is what privates are for.
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Exactly. I don't even look what they're saying when I'm in a GS....I don't offer the "highest tipper gets requests/named moaned" either....because it is still very cheap even for the highest tipper...unless they tip ALOT and if they do they should've just gone to premium/exclusive.
Actually I don't even take requests in premium if there is more than one person in the room or if I don't want to do what they ask...thats what exclusive is for, in exclusive I take all requests as long as they are within my limits.
I said this many times.. even if what a model else does..
.. does not DIRECTLY influence another model, it surly does INDIRECTLY...
( so the " do you and Ill do me" the saying that lots seem to enjoy referring to .. makes me want to bang my head on the closest wall)
Perfect example:
why am I constantly asked if I will " moan the name of the highest tipper"
where and when did they learn that is the norm?
Cause Im not doing that...
they learnt it in " other models"'s rooms...
Not to mention the other perfect example...
anything more than 5 for 5, 7 for 7 ,10 for 10 etc...is perceived as "high pledge".
Since when?
Since everyone started to go lower than $1 for 1 min.... lol
I seriously tried so hard to go higher than $1 for 1.. succeeded many times..
But when you get 50 men yelling" thats HIGH, no one will pay that". instead of fighting them all, its less stressful to join them all and join the " other models" while we;re at it..
unfortunately...





Yup, they're used to seeing it in other rooms. You'll see a lot of guys asking "Tits out when you get halfway there?" or "What does the highest tipper get?" Um...they're already getting a really good deal with GOLD shows. Now they're expecting ADDITIONAL stuff??? I think I once heard a model respond to a guy by telling him "Highest tipper gets to be the highest tipper." LOL!I like that answer...
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here is a great idea for SM!
SM PLEASE read this!!!!
Im begging you!
give your customers the chance to keep their pledge for a "2nd try out"
before they pledge, make them read this " want to keep your pledge and try again, if goal is not met?"
Can u imagine?
Everyone would bank! ( or at least more would, so the site would!)
Give them the 2nd chance to SPEND their money quick!,
without putting THEM through the hassle of re-pledging...
forget the model ( we;re going insane trying to get them to re-pledge, but forget about us), just make it easier on the customers to spend their money...
If I;d run the site, I;d do this like yesterday.
there are money on the table and no one cares...
give customers the options to NOT SPEND, after they decided they want to?
thats insane..........
I was wondering if some guys are afraid to pledge or re-pledge because they think they are being charged right when they throw in without knowing that they only get charged after the show is done. Even though they know they get their money back (really just words on a screen), if the show doesn't happen, they think that their statement is gonna show: Smt debit $5 (throwing in), Smt credit $5 (show didn't happen), Smt debit $5 (throwing in again). I always wondered if most were dense like that.





Thanks for the advice ladies. I'm thinking Gold shows just aren't for me and to stick to MFC when I want to beg for tipslol I'm also going to try going higher than the $1/min at least once because I haven't tried that yet. The only thing I ever offered the highest tipper was that they get to choose what toy/outfit. I think I'll try a few random shows for 1 more week and if I can't make it work for me than I'll find something else that will.





Ugh I hate the assumptions that guys have because of what other models do. I especially hate it when they start making demands DURING the show. Like the guy who tipped extra and so he assumes he must be the highest... "I was highest tipper moan my name" "do this do that" um.... no? I don't moan any names, I don't do request during gold shows, and I don't do anything at all for the highest tipper. The show is already so damn cheap if they want all that then I always advise them to save their money for exclusive!
When someone asks what the highest tipper gets, I usually reply something along the lines of "the highest tipper gets the privilege of knowing he's the coolest guy in the room!"
You know what else I hate? When they refer to the pledge as "bidding". What does the highest BIDDER get? Um.... is this ebay? You're not bidding on me! You're buying in for a show this isn't a damn auction!
xoxo ~ Sarah





Also... gold shows are losing their appeal for me personally because it's been so hard to get guys to even buy in. Last night I had 73 guys in the room, I tried $5 buy in, $3 buy in... at one point I couldn't get more than 3 guys to pledge. It's like wtf do you want from me??? Seriously. Unfortunately, I won't be able to keep up my needed income without gold shows so it feels like a necessary evil at this point.
I actually kinda lost it at one point and went off on my room. Bad bad. But I think any time I do that it's more in a sarcastic/bitchy way rather than omfg she's off her rocker way. Funny I get MORE pledges when I'm being a bitch than when I'm being nice!!! Because guess what? Right after that, I try another count down and make the goal! Wtf?
xoxo ~ Sarah



"Sorry, I don't moan names. I don't think all the guys who aren't named 'Bob' would appreciate that."
I feel like I can still give a lot of interaction to the room during a gold show even if I'm not fulfilling requests. Like I said earlier though, 95% of my gold shows were soft core so it's a little more like naked, naughty hangout time then "see how many sex acts I can perform in under 5 mins."
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