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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Not wanting to be accused of 'fear mongering', but this is a VERY CURIOUS observation !!! Is it possible that 'encoder problems' with StreaMate aren't strictly 'random' glitches, but something more purposeful being originated from StreaMates end ?

    Perhaps that reaction might be part of an intended purpose ?

    Again not wanting to be accused of 'fear mongering', but it has struck me as CURIOUS that certain camgirls posting here at SW seem to have few or no problems with the 'encoder', while other camgirls posting here at SW seem to have no END of problems with the 'encoder'. And, as just posted, this seems to transcend the camgirl's computer hardware capabilities and internet upload speed.

    One thing IS certain at this point ... that the earnings potential available today to camgirls attempting to work on StreaMates without running the 'encoder' has been significantly reduced.
    Melonie, I've been following your posts, and I completely understand your theory about how and why SM might conceivably want to discourage "marginal camgirls" from signing on. Every smart business does this when they realize that some of their customers are actually COSTING them money. Heck, *I* do it too: I regularly ensure that crappy, demanding, unpleasant cam viewers have a lousy experience in my room, so that they don't return. This frees me up to focus on my delightful big spenders.

    That said, your entire argument is out of place here, for the mere reason that Dayzie is FAR from being a marginal camgirl. She's about as close to marginal as you are to an A-cup.

    So while I completely understand the 'marginal camgirl theory', I respectfully suggest you leave it in another thread.

    This is a rant about SM's failure to acknowledge and repair their OWN tech issues. The end.
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    Now I really want to know who Dayzie is lol, I perve the top girls a lot! I tip, don't worry lol.

    I just wanted to add that I am "marginal" and make about twenty bucks an hour or so, and rarely have encoder problems. It's just silly they would force a top earner offline by giving her issues (wtf?) when someone with my much less earnings can stream with few problems. It's just glitches and I hope they get it together.

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    I'm in the pornstar category and I am currently somewhere in the top 5 rows of offline "pornstars" right now (though yes, the list is different if you are logged in vs not logged in your custy account), yet I still have issues with the encoder lagging or crashing or timing out (black screen). And so do the pornstars I see tweeting about it all the time on twitter.

    Dayzie, I believe, is still ranked above me and also has issues. So that puts an end to that theory. lol


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    I'm sure I'm no cash-cow camgirl, but I haven't had an issue with my encoder in months. Is everyone having issues while they are doing gold shows? I almost never do gold shows or use party chat.



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    My thoughts on this have always been this....

    If it's an error on SM's end then why isn't EVERYONE having issues/errors? This past week I cammed Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun and I had zero crashes the entire time I was on, and I was on at least 4-5 hours straight each time, and I cam in the same general hours that Dayzie does.

    I don't doubt that SM has MANY errors and glitches, but I wonder what it is that makes it only happen to some people and not others? I don't think they are intentionally creating errors for some girls and not others, not at all. But really it does make me wonder what is it that gives one girl TONS of problems while another girl is on at the same exact time with no errors all night?

    In all my time camming on SM (about 1.5 years now) with the encoder the whole time, I have had crashes less than a hand full of times.
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    For what its worth..I *finally* got my ass on cam (hey, its only been a year or something...lol)
    Was only on for half an hour, but didnt have any problems with the encoder
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    My 2 cents on the matter.

    Of course the code is buggy and of course it is Streamate's fault. They are releasing LIVE new code which is essentially being beta tested by every camgirl who is now doing the TV gold shows. I had expressed this view when they first came out and thanked all the other girls bold enough to be doing all the 'quality assurance' for the rest of us.

    There was no way that Streamate can really test for all the glitches in this type of code, so I don't fault them for that. The thing I do fault them for is telling hardworking camgirls that it is on their end and that they need to spend big bucks to get it fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    My thoughts on this have always been this....
    I don't doubt that SM has MANY errors and glitches, but I wonder what it is that makes it only happen to some people and not others? I don't think they are intentionally creating errors for some girls and not others, not at all. But really it does make me wonder what is it that gives one girl TONS of problems while another girl is on at the same exact time with no errors all night?
    I am not saying this is the answer, but it is an oversimplified and possible one. Have you ever encountered a situation where a website, service or tool is down but only to certain people? When websites, services or tools are distributed across servers that are within networks it is a common occurrence to only have problems with SPECIFIC servers on that network.

    Does that make any sense at all? I didn't want to bore the fuck out of you by making the answer over technical or frusterate you by making my answer too simple.

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    I know that from working on other site that had issues.... It seem like the issue would only effect some girls and it would get fixed for those girls then other girls would have the same issues.
    I think that encoder is shit software... It only works on some computer and not others....it takes up so much cpu...I hate the encoder and would not use if they did not make us. My encoder crash every time I close it
    I think sm is very helpful if you can talk to the right people But trying to find the right people to talk to is hard, and talking to model support is like banging your head on the wall....I don't know what you have to say or do to get them to set your email to the guys that give real help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aven View Post
    I hate the encoder and would not use if they did not make us. My encoder crash every time I close it
    Mine does that too. Freaking frustrating!

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    Default Re: Truth about the Streamate Encoder...

    My thoughts on this have always been this....

    If it's an error on SM's end then why isn't EVERYONE having issues/errors?
    Have you ever encountered a situation where a website, service or tool is down but only to certain people?

    Essentially, this was the ONLY point which I initially posted about ! Re-read my actual posts !


    but are you aware of who Dayzie is on sm?
    Of course. She is major competition for ManWin owned production company affiliated porn stars ! Also, based on the thanks that Dayzie attached to my posts, it would appear that ... unlike the majority of other posters in this thread ... Dayzie immediately understood where I was coming from.


    your entire argument is out of place here, for the mere reason that Dayzie is FAR from being a marginal camgirl. She's about as close to marginal as you are to an A-cup.
    That's the other half of the theory i.e. active promotion of ManWin owned production company affiliated porn stars.


    I do consider a couple of the posts in this thread to be fear-mongering, but the author is within her rights to post them. That said, the posts were also incredibly rude to a chica about whom the author evidently knows nothing. If the author knew how successful the OP is, she wouldn't have been chosen as the target by an extremely...driven individual striving to find any shred of evidence to prove a theory that's been posted in abundance all over this forum'
    I offer all 'due respect' to the 'impartial' moderation


    However, at this point it is abundantly clear that the vast majority of SW readers, as well as the forum moderator, don't want to hear anything further which even remotely touches on a 'marginal camgirl' / active promotion of porn stars theory ... so they won't hear any more from me in this regard, at least for the next 6 months.
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    Looks like I actually had 4 cents on this issue.

    There are two separate issues currently occurring.

    1. Streamate is requires us to use a crappy and glitchy piece of software in order to have better placement. Because this is not code that they have wrote they can essentially brush off any and all encoder problems as 'not our fault' because 'encoder use is optional'. Yes, SM has zero responsibility for any and all encoder issues because they didn't write the program. I get that, it is valid. But they need to take responsibility FOR the fact that they are asking us to use a third-party piece of shit software and stop passing the buck on the camgirls.

    2. The code that SM is currently using for it's gold shows is glitchy. To pretend that it is anything other that that fact to me, is personally insulting. Anyone who has ever been a program manager during the time that a software project is being developed would by my guess probably find it personally insulting as well. They are covering up this fact by passing the buck on the camgirls.

    Summary: In my personal opinion, after working for other companies and seeing this pattern in the past then this situation will be constant until either:

    1. It becomes too costly for SM to tolerate
    2. The business goes under because customers get frustrated by the amount of glitches and jump ship
    3. The code base eventually starts functioning where it is back to having an 'acceptable' amount of bugs.

    In other words, if you work SM then expect these types of problems as 'the price of doing business' with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AF camgirl View Post
    I'm sure I'm no cash-cow camgirl, but I haven't had an issue with my encoder in months. Is everyone having issues while they are doing gold shows? I almost never do gold shows or use party chat.
    Nope. I'm in a niche category so I don't do gold shows or the camtv thing. I don't even use party chat. I strictly do exclusive and premium yet I still had all those problems with the encoder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    so they won't hear any more from me in this regard, at least for the next 6 months.
    Awesome!

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    @Melonie

    It migh be the language barrier but I interpreted JAC's answer as: They are not trying to fuck up anyone personally, technical issues, problems with updates, not-tested things going live are... well, are just like this. It's like when you ask on yahoo answers after a skype update if skype is down for anyone else or what and some people says, "nah it's been fine, I'm skyping with my friend right now if anything it's been better since then", and some says "it's been horrible for 2 days now", and some says "I can't even log in since then".

    Or I play several online games, and every singe time after every single patch the forum is flood by: OMG OMG LAG, DISONNCETED, CANNOT CONNECT TO THE SERVER, GAME CRASHES, STUPID ERROR MSG, while others are "wtf, it's fine no problem, go and buy a better computer", while the ones with the problem are like: "WTF I have an i7 everything is up to date, I don't need anything better, yet thsi crap still doesn't work" others with outdated crappy computers also pitching in like: "I have no problems yet my pc is very old" and the developers usually don't say anything, or give some copy+paste message saying "update everything, make sure your computer meets the minimum requirements" or rarely, very very rarely "sorry we are working on it, but yet we do not know what causes the issues exactly" yadayada.

    It's just like this. They are not trying to fuck up anyone with directed problems imo. I'm VERY marginal yet I have never ever had problems with my encoder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasses View Post
    @Melonie

    It might be the language barrier but I interpreted JAC's answer as: They are not trying to fuck up anyone personally, technical issues, problems with updates, not-tested things going live are...
    As per usual Glasses, you are completely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Essentially, this was the ONLY point which I initially posted about ! Re-read my actual posts !




    Of course. She is major competition for ManWin owned production company affiliated porn stars ! Also, based on the thanks that Dayzie attached to my posts, it would appear that ... unlike the majority of other posters in this thread ... Dayzie immediately understood where I was coming from.




    I offer all 'due respect' to the 'impartial' moderation


    However, at this point it is abundantly clear that the vast majority of SW readers, as well as the forum moderator, don't want to hear anything further which even remotely touches on a 'marginal camgirl' / active promotion of porn stars theory ... so they won't hear any more from me in this regard, at least for the next 6 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Essentially, this was the ONLY point which I initially posted about ! Re-read my actual posts !




    Of course. She is major competition for ManWin owned production company affiliated porn stars ! Also, based on the thanks that Dayzie attached to my posts, it would appear that ... unlike the majority of other posters in this thread ... Dayzie immediately understood where I was coming from.




    That's the other half of the theory i.e. active promotion of ManWin owned production company affiliated porn stars.




    I offer all 'due respect' to the 'impartial' moderation


    However, at this point it is abundantly clear that the vast majority of SW readers, as well as the forum moderator, don't want to hear anything further which even remotely touches on a 'marginal camgirl' / active promotion of porn stars theory ... so they won't hear any more from me in this regard, at least for the next 6 months.



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    Awww I love Melonie and she is super helpful and puts out some really great advice and information that has been very useful to probably each one of us at some point or another.

    Her views on "marginal camgirls" may not be favorable or what anyone really wants to hear... who really wants to think they might be "marginal"? But it does offer a different alternative perspective on the situation, and each of us might not agree with it but I don't think we should start to get catty. IMO Melonie has done pretty well to present her views without being rude about it. The OP didn't seem to take offense by what was said, since she "thanked" Melonie's post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    I am not saying this is the answer, but it is an oversimplified and possible one. Have you ever encountered a situation where a website, service or tool is down but only to certain people? When websites, services or tools are distributed across servers that are within networks it is a common occurrence to only have problems with SPECIFIC servers on that network.

    Does that make any sense at all? I didn't want to bore the fuck out of you by making the answer over technical or frusterate you by making my answer too simple.
    Yes, makes total sense bb That's what my husband told me as well, which I kinda figured but couldn't put into words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Awww I love Melonie and she is super helpful and puts out some really great advice and information that has been very useful to probably each one of us at some point or another.

    Her views on "marginal camgirls" may not be favorable or what anyone really wants to hear... who really wants to think they might be "marginal"? But it does offer a different alternative perspective on the situation, and each of us might not agree with it but I don't think we should start to get catty. IMO Melonie has done pretty well to present her views without being rude about it. The OP didn't seem to take offense by what was said, since she "thanked" Melonie's post.

    In my opinion, her continuing to make these posts with absolutely no evidence besides anecdotes that really have no relevance, is 100% rude. I appreciate her posts in other sections of the forums where I can see a clear correlation between facts and what she's saying. I do not appreciate her continued "speculation" without further "evidence". If she comes to us with the same level of factual evidence as she is kind enough to offer other sections of the forum, I would welcome that. As of now these are her personal "predictions" and worth no more than a $20 palm reading.
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    Honestly, all the reports of encoder issues kind of confuse me, as I have never had a problem.

    Wait - I had one problem - and then I realized that it was something I had done wrong, and fixed it.

    I was going to ask about the gold show thing, because I rarely do gold shows, but it sounds like that isn't really a consistent factor. I think it may have something to do with it though - if only because the more people that you are dealing with in a show, the harder your whole system has to work to compensate...

    Are you ladies splitcamming? (You ladies = ladies having consistent problems) I feel like there HAS to be a logical explanation - something to do with CPU, processor speed, etc. What about your CPU usage? How are the percentages? What system are you running?
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