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    Default Stripping vs Camming $$ for me

    So, I was just in the mood to crunch some numbers to determine the best way for me to earn my income next year. I was quite surprised at the results.

    So before I quit dancing I was working 3 nights a week. The hours were scheduled, but it was basically a minimum of 10p - whatever time club closed. So, including my drive to and from work, I averaged 10 hours per night. I couldn't muster the enregy or motivation to work until midnight most days, so I was only "working" 4 hours. I steadily brought home about $200 each night (some nights more). So when I broke it down my money looke like this:
    • $ 200 per night
    • / 10 hours
    • = $ 20 per hour
    • / 60 minutes in an hour
    • = $0.33 per minute

    So I'm making 33 cents a minute.... I haven't even bought gas yet, had dinner/breakfast, or deducted my taxes! I know its more when I factor it in at actually working the 4 hours (83 cents), but even then I feel like I was selling myself too cheap.


    In order to make the same amount camming on most sites I just have to charge a minimum of 99 cents a minute! That is so pathetic! I used to think I was doing well for myself... But no, I had to look into camming and really see how much I was letting myself be worth. I was so used to making minimum wage at my day job, that $20 an hour seemed great. What the hell was I thinking! Now I see why camming is so popular. Even if I put the same amount of effort into camming as I did with dancing, if I start out with a 2.99/3.99 rate I only need to "work" about and hour and a half at the 2.99 rate to make the same amount dancing. All together, I would need roughly 6 1/2 to 7 hours total to get my pre-tax income from dancing and my regular job.

    Now I'm not too sure how realistic that is for a new cam girl, but even if it started off slow for me, how can I argue with those numbers? I don't have to waste time driving to and from work. I won't be limited to the hours I can or can't work because of the establishment's hours. I can hit pause and grab a bite to eat whenever I feel like it. If I get tired of guys harrassing me I can say fuck it and log off. I understand that guys are just as douchey (if not more) online, but I can choose how much to deal with. The douche can't get up and follow me around. I know I'm doing more sexually for the money, but I just can't believe the monetary and time difference.

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    That is a real eye opener! I think what you have to take into account is just like how you work at the SC for 10 hours but really "work" 4 hours, you can be sitting online for hours camming and not get anything. So, your per min rate will have to be high enough to compensate for all the time you'll spend not in a private chat session.

    If your really looking to make more money for your time, I'd look into content selling (clips/pics/etc). One clip can resell over and over again - the best money is the money you make in your sleep!


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    Default Re: Stripping vs Camming $$ for me

    Just keep in mind though, that with cam you are not consistently in privates which is the only way to make your earnings.
    Like, you can be on for 4 hours and make $50. That would end up being about 21c/m. Or you can be on for 1 hour and make $100 at 1.67/m. Its SO varied lol

    Also theres the time getting ready (not that much I have to admit) and making sure you have the equipment to work, so thats money you would need to spend on the laptop, and decent internet connection and webcam. But are things you would only need to get once, opposed to gas money, lunch, etc that you spend money on in a daily basis now.

    But yeah, to make a fair comparison, you would also have to take your personal averages are on cam and compare *that* to your personal average dancing to get a real idea of the difference.

    All the same, from what Ive been reading about with ladies experiences on here..those who have moved over to cam from dancing are generally floored at the earning potential and it does seem they end up making a lot more with a lot less of the hassle. Plus you have the benefit of bringing your hustle skills with you
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    I've been looking into clips too. I'm currently pregnant and working on getting stuff together so I can have pregnant content when I actually do start online stuff. Getting into those numbers would have just thrown me over the edge though lol

    I know that the reality is sitting online for hours sometimes before you get a bite. But after gas and food got thrown into the equation, I took home roughly $167 to be away from home 10 hours.

    I could have still spent an hour getting ready, just like in the club. The 2 hours I was driving could've been spent making me and my family dinner. The time I spent in the shower when getting out of work could have been transformed into a show (or video). The list just goes on, you know?

    I guess what kinda made me open my eyes is just the effort and what I view myself as being "worth". If I put 10 hours into camming, like I did with dancing, it would take a fraction of the amount of time to make the same amount or more. And it just made going to the club not worth it.

    I don't HAVE to work. My boyfriend makes more than enough to support our family if I stay home. I know $200 a night is peanuts to some people. I chose dancing because it mae me feel sexy, and I felt like I was winning because I got paid to party. But after seeing what I could be making in the same amount of time, I just feel so stupid and used. lol

    If I go back to dancing I definitly need to up my standards! But I like the idea of at staying home and making the time worth the same amount.

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    Also, I guess another factor is the mom factor...

    I feel like it was basically a waste for me to be away from my family so much, to earn so little compared to the possible Cam earnings.

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    Jeez, for very sure if you devote 10hrs to cam you will build yourself up and make good money...
    And the reality is, even 4-5hr a day would be plenty enough to be on cam for.

    I only say that because I would max out at 2hrs, but at least as long as I was consistently on around the same time, guys knew what time to find me on even though I wasnt on long. The potential is def there.,..and you cant beat the commute

    As for the mom factor...for one, luckyyyy! pregnancy fetishes are huge, so you can def do well with that!
    And jsut for the time thing...youre way more flexible, and once kiddo is born, being able to be right there with them and work around your sched as a mom to still be able to make money is an awesome thing.
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    Have you thought about working at other clubs? $200 in ten hours for a strip club is bad, even in a recession. You can make that as a server. I've only danced a few times but I always made more dancing than I did camming. But camming is better for me because I don't have to drive and I don't like the drama that comes with dancing (dressing room, fighting with dudes about grabbing my ass). But I love stripping money. It just seems so much faster and easier. But I understand the mommy thing. Camming is better for that.

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    For me , when I do cam full time it's Monday through Friday when my daughter is in school. She's in school from 8pm to 5pm so I can cam anytime during those hours and at 9pm after she goes to bed. Only a robot would stay on cam for 10 hours straight. I mean if you can do it, I admire you and I want to know what your secret is. That's the only way I can see having a 10 hour shift is if you break it up. 5 hours in the afternoon and 5 hours during the day. If your goal is $200, I'm pretty sure if you try hard enough you can make $100 per shift.

    As for your calculations, you are exactly right. I couldn't imagine working 10 hours and only making $200. I would stay home if I were you - that is if you feel you can pull in at leastt $200 consistently of course. Good luck with everything.

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    If you look upon exotic dancing versus camming, and employ a 'standard' analysis of all costs and benefits, you typically get ...

    Exotic Dancing requires little or no up front investment ( costumes ) whereas camming requires a SIGNIFICANT investment ( computer, camera, ).

    Exotic Dancing involves mostly 'variable' costs ( i.e. you don't burn extra gas on the nights that you don't dance ) whereas camming requires 'fixed' costs ( i.e. high speed internet costs the same per month no matter how many hours you're actually logged on )

    In general, exotic dancing is going to provide a 'reasonable' amount of income any time you dance, whereas camming can be much more 'random' in regard to earnings potential on a given day.

    In general, exotic dancing is going to provide some 'flexibility' where earnings versus taxes are concerned, whereas 100% of camming earnings are likely to be independently reported to the IRS.

    This leads to a basic conclusion that exotic dancing lends itself better toward the 'occasional' dancer, whereas camming really requires a more solid commitment in order to spread out the associated 'fixed' costs and income variations.

    On a non economic level, exotic dancing by definition has no connection between 'home' life and 'dancing' life. For better or worse, camming from home intermixes 'home' life and 'camming' life. This is no small distinction ... and particularly so when there are children in the household.

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    @BlkSharpie: I looked at 10 hours being my workday because I would leave a 6p and get home around 4a most of the time. So I may not have been with customers all that time, but with the drive and getting ready, that's the time I was investing. Then there would be some nights I would just hop in the shower and onto computer to surf net since I would have had to get up in an hour for the dayjob. I just believe that if I were to devote that much effort to cam, and not make AT LEAST the same amount, I should find a "normal" job.

    @Avamonet: Right now I am looking at other clubs. The earning potential is in my home club. There are girls that bank in there, but I don't have the patience for some of the guys that were in there. I wasn't motivated enough to push harder. I had a few regulars and thats why I made consistent (yet low), easy money. I let those girls that were willing to deal with extreme idiots everynight, go for it. I am looking at a different club in a bigger city though. I just get so comfortable with regulars that it is vicious on my pocket (and liver).

    @Melonie: In regards to the initial investment, all I need is a better web cam. I have a gaming computer so I buy new parts for it every few months. Upgrading a piece at a time makes me feel better than having to drop thousands at a time for a full upgrade. And I do have a few toys I can use if I wanted to do that.
    When it comes to taxes, I don't report every penny, but I do report a good majority to the IRS anyway. I prefer big purchases like houses and cars to the little stuff. So I want to make sure my butt isn't going to owe down the line. It would just be my luck that I under-report my earnings and that would be the time I get audited. It's kind of sad that I'm that paranoid, when all the girls I've worked with have never reported a dime.
    And I do understand what you're saying about the home an work life intermingling. When I dance, I don't have a home distraction unless unless kids get sick and I get a call to come home. But if I were to work from home there's nothing keeping my work and home separated except a doorhandle...

    I do think that to be in my comfort zone I would do both at first. I may be looking at camming as this great thing, but what happens after 2 months of investing time into it and I haven't made a penny? At least if I do both at first, I would have an income from dancing to fall back on.

    On another note, my boyfriend says I'm probably not sure it's what I want to do. So I'm using the money part as a way to assure myself that camming is ok. And I do see his point, especially after re-reading the posts I've made. lol

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    It would just be my luck that I under-report my earnings and that would be the time I get audited. It's kind of sad that I'm that paranoid, when all the girls I've worked with have never reported a dime.
    Well, where camming is concerned , 1099's issued by the webcam hosts removes the option of 'forgetting' to pay taxes on your income. Right or wrong, this will mean that 15.3% of your camming income will go towards 'self-employment' tax, with additional federal and state income tax on top. As to the dancers who have never reported a dime of their dancing income, with each passing year the IRS is 'closing the loop' on the spending side ... which will eventually lead to a harsh 'reality attack' for those fellow dancers.

    I have a gaming computer so I buy new parts for it every few months. Upgrading a piece at a time makes me feel better than having to drop thousands at a time for a full upgrade. And I do have a few toys I can use if I wanted to do that.
    ... then you're talking something on the order of $300 max investment for a 'cream of the crap' camcorder, a video interface card for problem free HD. some photofloods etc. I'm assuming of course that your gaming computer is a desktop with card slots available.


    And I do understand what you're saying about the home an work life intermingling. When I dance, I don't have a home distraction unless unless kids get sick and I get a call to come home. But if I were to work from home there's nothing keeping my work and home separated except a doorhandle...
    I'm not sure that you totally absorbed my 'drift'. For example, family courts typically take a very dim view of children being present when the mother is doing 'adult entertainment' work ten feet away ... even if separated by a closed door.


    I do think that to be in my comfort zone I would do both at first. I may be looking at camming as this great thing, but what happens after 2 months of investing time into it and I haven't made a penny? At least if I do both at first, I would have an income from dancing to fall back on.
    Actually, most webcam hosts provide 'high profile' promotion for 'new' camgirls, which goes into effect for a couple of weeks / a month after you first sign up, and which expires based on elapsed time regardless of how much camming you do or don't do during that time. Thus I would recommend making a 'maximum effort' at camming while the 'new' camgirl promotion will help increase your earnings potential. Once you're no longer being promoted as a 'new' camgirl, if your earnings drop substantially THAT is the time to go back to live dancing to supplement.

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