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    I blocked the whole state of Florida AWHILE ago, and while I was chatting with the guys, I found out some of them were from Florida! And I even did a show with a guy and after it was over, he told me he was from/in Miami! Miami is like, right next to me!!!!! I'm freaking out because who knows how long this has been going on for ugh

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    This is bullshit man I emailed Streamate:
    "THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!! I blocked Florida a WHILE ago and people from Florida can still see me!!!! I just had a show with a guy from Miami! PLEASE FIX THIS, it's unacceptable ! I had no idea they could still see me until now..."

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    "Streamate is pleased to now offer geo-restriction for models. This allows you to block specified areas for your own peace of mind and privacy. You are able to select which Country, City and State(US) you'd like to block from seeing your profile. Additionally, you are able to set up to 5 blocked areas, and edit/remove them as you see fit. Please use this feature carefully as it will impact the volume of user that see your profile. Restricting any location will remove you from the sort and searches for non-logged in members. Additionally, any advertising or additional exposure of your profile will also be disabled. If you notice a change in the volume of users in your chat, consider editing your geographic restrictions as they may be too broad and thus limiting your exposure to users. You can select your geographic blocking options by clicking "My geographic restrictions" on your main profile page.


    Keep in mind If a member is not logged into the system, there is no way for geoblock to block someone from that area."


    WHAT IN THE FUCKING FUCKER FUCK THAT DIDN'T ANSWER ME AT ALL YOU BASTARDS! FUCK

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Geo Restrictions have limitations, sadly.

    First off, if you have been promoting your cammodels link, geo-restrictions don't apply. It is a direct link to your profile, so the guy next door can use it to see you.

    Also, you can still be seen on white label sites - these are recordings, not your live shows, but they can still be seen.

    I've PM'd you the last one - not wanting to give lurkers any hints and tips.

    At the end of the day, I don't find the geo-block worthwhile. I definitely don't think that it is worth the loss in revenue.
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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    In response to what you said, dude from Miami was legit because when I told him he'd be geoblocked soon, he got pretty upset and had me give him my email so that we'd still be able to contact each other.
    I haven't promoted my cammodels link at all. :/

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    I don't promote my cam model link either, I have geoblockingin place and I have gotten guys from the 3 states that I blocked. so go figure also, they can use a block my ass sort of site.. I still have yet to be able to find myself. even when I go into the site under one of the blocking type sites.

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sequoia View Post
    I blocked the whole state of Florida AWHILE ago, and while I was chatting with the guys, I found out some of them were from Florida! And I even did a show with a guy and after it was over, he told me he was from/in Miami! Miami is like, right next to me!!!!! I'm freaking out because who knows how long this has been going on for ugh
    Ummm yeah I had this problem too! And ended up with a reg who lives in the town over from me less than 30 minutes away!!! I drove through the town a couple weeks ago and wore a hoodie and sunglasses because I'm so paranoid (its not a big town...)

    After that happened I just took off geoblocking because it was hurting my income anyways...
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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Resurrecting !!

    Does Geo blocking on SM work at all as it says? I have blocked 1 country and 2 cities in one state in the U.S. I have noticed if i search myself on Streamate.com i dont show up, k check , i search myself on google (my screen name) and it comes up on multiple "white lable" or i guess "sister sites" of SM, and if geo block says that its going to block freeloaders without credit cards(non members) plus members in the restricted geo locations from viewing me...then WTF is going on? why on google do I still find my profile?



    EDIT: been searching through under "geoblock" and unless someone has something fresh for me about the geo block or any stories to tell or how you "fixed" it let me know..other wise i see geo block seems to be pretty much a lie from what ive been reading here on SW. super shitty deal,

    but hey I cammed for over a year with no geo block..i shouldve been smarter if it ment something to me if someone found out.
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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    I found out the hard way that there really is no such thing as Geoblocking. I believe sites just throw it up to get you to sign up and calm down any expectations of being found out. However, with the net being what it is, any and all content is accessible. I found out that they can get in through their Mobile phones. Though phones have IP addresses, they can still get in. I signed up to a site and stupidly mentioned it in a fight with my husband. I signed online and he not only saw me, he came into the room and even called me telling me which screen name was his lol. He signed in from his mobile phone which was registered in another state. However, I blocked off at least 6 states. I suppose you can just try and disguise yourself as best as you can as mobile traffic may not be part of Geoblocking. Now if I go on I make sure he is at work/school. If anyone else finds me I don't care as much. Firstly, they aren't or in the future contributing to my bills/income, and secondly, a customer/browser on cam/porn sites looks just as bad if we're going to point fingers.

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Really the only thing geoblocking is going to do, is prevent someone from stumbling upon you by browsing the site. If they know what your screen name is, it's utterly useless.
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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    I agree, it's useless, and it halts your earning potential from those particular states. If someone comes in and recognizes you and blasts your personal info, deny, deny, deny and then ban! For years I was afraid of being found out. But again, if they weren't beating off on the site they wouldn't have found you so they can fuck off.

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    I wish that I knew the answer, as I still get people from areas that I blocked, but I can never find me when I am logged in with a custy account or not logged in at all, if I just go onto streamates.com and do a search for my name it never shows, no matter what I do, can't find me.

    SM customers I have found out are NOT allowed to use sites like Hidemyass or other ip blocking programs.
    I got my custy account blocked for doing so, only found out after contacting the main support phone number.

    I have googled my name, and not found anything. so who knows what is going on.. it should be consistent thats for sure, sort of not fair when they advertise it but it never works

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    CinnamonKiss, when you google your cam name, you can see your cam on whitelabels, prior advertising from affiliates or whatever.. (just like you could watch yourself using your cammodels link). What GeoBlock WILL do for you is
    Somebody will actually need to be a credit card MEMBER to even see you on Streamate.com or any of its white labels if they are on the site in the non-restricted area. So, say that you blocked Los Angeles, only credit card members OUTSIDE of the los angeles area will be able to see you when they log onto streamate.com or any white labels. So, nobody can just log on to streamate and see your cam without being signed in.

    If they know your screen name, then well. . anybody can probably just google you, find your cammodels link, and see you or your twitter, etc.. BUT. . the average joe schmoe that doesn't know your screen name. . will most likely NOT be able to find out...and it's very doubtful that they would actually pull out their credit card and become a member on the site to see you. And members are not allowed to use proxies on Streamate because it gets flagged as fraud and their member's account will get shut down.

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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Just echoig: it isnt just Streamate, no site can guarantee 100% effective geoblocking:

    Quote Originally Posted by roast View Post
    No site can guarantee 100% reliable geo-blocking. This isnt because the site is fallible or doesnt know what it is doing, it is just how internet broadcasting and affiliate marketing works.

    most sites do a great job at being effective at blocking ranges of real IP addresses, which is all that it does.

    People who view online porn are the general public, the general public are very basic about their computer browsing (for ex, majority of internet surfers use internet explorer only and dont know different OS than Microsoft) so geo-blocking captures 'typical' users. I cant give a percentage but I'd guess idk 75-90%**

    However:

    a. mobile users (this includes mobile computers like iPads and other tablets) arent blocked by region. a growing percentage of online porn viewers are on mobile devices.

    b. a lot of megasite traffic comes from affiliate advertisers and white labels. most geo-restrictions remove you from major ad campaigns, but some site's white labels dont guarantee blocking at all.

    c. if a user is using a proxy that scrambles their IP address they can surpass regional blocking.

    d. if your video feed is pirated (freechat included, there are a bunch of camgirl's freechats on youtube) or screenshots are taken and disseminated, regional blocking is irrelevant.

    e. if you use social media promotional sites like twitter or mypornprofile, you have no regional blocking protection.





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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    For the record, the geo-blocking works insofar as it is possible for a system like that to work.

    It will prevent you from being searched or seen by non-logged in members (no matter where you are), and it will prevent logged in members using an IP address in the blocked area from seeing you. And it DOES do that.

    The issues being brought up here are not a glitch or a problem that is specific to SM - they are logistics issues with the entire concept of a geo-block. Essentially, SM already blocks logged in users from using a proxy account, so they are doing what they can do to try and maintain the function of a geo-block.

    There really isn't anything that they can do about affiliate and white label sites, or about phones with different IP addresses, or about any of the rest of it.

    Honestly, geo-blocking is a useful tool, and it helps cut down on the possibility of locals finding you, but nothing can completely remove that. Even if SM was capable of restricting all the affiliate and white label sites, and had an option that allows you to opt out of having a cammodels.com link, then you would STILL be searchable and findable if you are a camgirl.

    If someone knows your screen name (or even doesn't) they can still find your twitter, your facebook, your blog, your site. They can still find illegally recorded shows, photos, etc. They can still find reviews on review sites, and promotion sites - all of which usually copy your profile picture and link in to your show.

    If you really think that it is worth the loss of traffic to have a smaller probability of locals seeing you, geo blocking is fine. But any camgirl who actually thinks that there is going to be a way to prevent anyone local seeing her or finding out about her, ever, is kidding herself. I don't mean that in a mean way, but because it is better to be prepared. I always say - go into this industry on the assumption that everyone in the world will be able to find you, because they basically can. Job hazard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxtinamariexx View Post
    I wish that I knew the answer, as I still get people from areas that I blocked, but I can never find me when I am logged in with a custy account or not logged in at all, if I just go onto streamates.com and do a search for my name it never shows, no matter what I do, can't find me.

    SM customers I have found out are NOT allowed to use sites like Hidemyass or other ip blocking programs.
    I got my custy account blocked for doing so, only found out after contacting the main support phone number.

    I have googled my name, and not found anything. so who knows what is going on.. it should be consistent thats for sure, sort of not fair when they advertise it but it never works
    youre probably getting users on their ipad, phone, browsing a white label, or who came to your profile directly from links (yours or someone else's) then. It isnt Streamate's end if geoblocking is not working, they don't guarantee it works 100% of the time because it cant. Like even if they hired some mega genius developer and paid 'em $100million dollars, it would still never be 100% effective. It probably works most of the time, I doubt it never does - except you occasionally find people who trickle in who say they are in an area you blocked.





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    Default Re: Anybody else having problems with the Geoblocker on SM??????

    Yes I have. I blocked my own country and it works in main site, but everybody in my own country can see me in "sister´s site" (=promo sites), so it doesn´t work. Even I can se myself too (from my laptop, not phone)... And advertising works maybe in certain country (?), so I have same customers than I have now in my own country..=( I cannot work until they delete my new picture..

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    damn sorry i thought its post all twitter names i dont know i was tired posting it sorryyy lol i had 2 tabs open in my browser with 2 different threats sorry

    damn i feell like a retard now for posting my twitter account in the middle of y'all conversation sorrryyy

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