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    Curious as to how you feel about sugar daddy/ gfe.....

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    Um...well, at first I thought you were asking this question from a tax standpoint, which I think the gvt does have something about if you are gifted over a certain amount of money per year, then either you or the person who is giving the gift has to pay taxes on it, and I think its set at something like $10k or $20k...I cant recall. Probably $10k. So its not considered wages (a job) but at a certain point they want a cut of it.

    As for personal, nope..I dont consider having a bf a job, just cause he happens to be generous
    On the contrary, Id think having a broke bf whos living off of me would be hard work, not my field though
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    As for personal, nope..I dont consider having a bf a job, just cause he happens to be generous
    On the contrary, Id think having a broke bf whos living off of me would be hard work, not my field though
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    This is just common sense... like seriously.

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    By G.F.E I mean in a sugar baby way, not just having a boyfriend who spoils you. I know some girls that refer to it as that as oppose to a sugar baby/ sugar daddy relationship. I guess I'm more curious if there's anyone out there completely making a living this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mslittleblackbook View Post
    By G.F.E I mean in a sugar baby way, not just having a boyfriend who spoils you. I know some girls that refer to it as that as oppose to a sugar baby/ sugar daddy relationship. I guess I'm more curious if there's anyone out there completely making a living this way.
    I wouldn't say I make a living that way but my boyfriend pretty much pays all my bills with the money he gives me each month (5-10k a month). He's the CEO of his company and over 60 years old. People that see us together will think I'm his sugarbaby/ with him for his money - I'm not. I still work - or at least try to . I just think it would be pretty pathetic to depend on any of these guys solely for income. Why? Because these guys can bounce anytime. Good luck

    Edit to add: and yes DD is right. If you're fucking your sugardaddy, you're a prostitute not a sugarbaby. In that case, It would be a job. You' would be better off putting up an escort website, posting rates and charging for your time.

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    Default Re: Is being a sugar baby considered a job?

    I've noticed the industry has changed a bit. Lot's of grey area.

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    Semantics. Okay, so whether or not hes your bf, hes someone youre spending time with, and hes generous with you.
    Is he paying you a salary? Paying you a fee for services rendered? Or giving you a gift in the form of money?

    If its the first two...then yes, its a job.
    If its the last one, then no, its not a job.

    Being a sugarbaby isnt "industry" just so happens it appeals to ladies in the industry, and men who are generous find their way to women in the indutry.
    But being a sugarbaby in itself, all it means is, a woman who is financially well kept by a man, for whom the main reason she has anything to do with him is because hes wealthy.
    Whether its her boyfriend, or her husband, or shes his mistress, or shes just a once in a while companion....shes a sugarbaby.

    And no, sugarbaby is not a profession, a job, no wages, no rates, nothing like that.
    Everything the guy gives is a gift..nothing attached to it save for him hoping it was enough to keep her by his side for another day.

    If there is something attached...if hes paying for services...
    Whether or not theres sex involved, if its $$ for XX, then youre an escort. File your taxes.

    Its very simple really.
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    Well put. I have received gifts from SDs and never crossed the line, but I have known some girls to quit dancing because their SD took care of them financially with a sexual relationship. I suppose if it walks like a duck...

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    I know a lot of sugar babies who treat it like a job. They go on the sd websites every day, network with other sb's, juggle multiple sd's at once, and usually have a few money slaves (though they know fin domme is separate and different). I guess I just think of them as different. Escorts charge for the time spent, and though they can have regulars, they're not close to all their customers. SB's are usually very close with their SD's if they are sleeping with them, and usually like them as a person. The guys they don't sleep with are usually the ones they hate and just string along.
    IDK, I'm in a relationship so I couldn't do it, but I know girls who get their tuition, rent, and car payed for, along with allowances and shopping trips.
    I wouldn't define myself as a SB if I was dating a rich guy and he payed for some of my stuff though, unless that was the BASIS of the relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Someone please explain to me why girls thinking that only fucking one guy makes you a sugar b baby instead of a prostitute/escort? Is it just girls trying to justify the shit in their head so they don't have to feel bad about it?
    Because they're fucking delusional. Fuck one guy or 1,000 guys for money - you're a prostitute.

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    Well no...okay, heres where I differ lol

    To me...just *my* personal opinion.
    An escort is someone who gets paid for sex. (time and companionship etc whatev) getting paid for a service that will 90% of the time include sex.
    This is my rate to spend this much time with me...etc.

    A sugarbaby is someone who is in it for the money, but not paid per time/act/service...its open and variable. Shes actually with the guy because he has the money to keep her around. So...whether shes a fly by night, girlfriend, mistress, wife... If the only reason shes with him is cause hes got money, and she will lose interest and leave if he goes broke..thats a SD/SB relationship.

    If a guy pays a monthly allowance, gets her an apt and car, takes her on vacations....
    just because they have sex doesnt make her an escort.
    On that note, doesnt mean its a standard vanilla relationship either,
    Since those are based on love, not on how financially generous he is.

    A guy can lay down a girls $300/h rate, then just want to sit and talk and drink wine...
    just because they didnt have sex doesnt make her a sugarbaby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Someone please explain to me why girls thinking that only fucking one guy makes you a sugar b baby instead of a prostitute/escort? Is it just girls trying to justify the shit in their head so they don't have to feel bad about it?
    That's why you don't fuck a sugardaddy. They want the chase, the fun, the excitement. A real sugardaddy wouldn't be looking for a discount escort as its a luxury item, and not bargain sex. If a real sugardaddy wanted sex, he'd pay a real escort for her time and that would be that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Well no...okay, heres where I differ lol

    To me...just *my* personal opinion.
    An escort is someone who gets paid for sex. (time and companionship etc whatev) getting paid for a service that will 90% of the time include sex.
    This is my rate to spend this much time with me...etc.

    A sugarbaby is someone who is in it for the money, but not paid per time/act/service...its open and variable. Shes actually with the guy because he has the money to keep her around. So...whether shes a fly by night, girlfriend, mistress, wife... If the only reason shes with him is cause hes got money, and she will lose interest and leave if he goes broke..thats a SD/SB relationship.

    If a guy pays a monthly allowance, gets her an apt and car, takes her on vacations....
    just because they have sex doesnt make her an escort.
    On that note, doesnt mean its a standard vanilla relationship either,
    Since those are based on love, not on how financially generous he is.

    A guy can lay down a girls $300/h rate, then just want to sit and talk and drink wine...
    just because they didn't have sex doesn't make her a sugarbaby.
    Now Nicole you know I've been at this SB/SD thing for a few days now and I've not had sex with any of the SDs.
    Do you know how many girls would have had sex with the potential SD on the first date?? MANY.
    When a sugardaddy/sugarbaby arrangement is done right - it can't be compared to p4p.
    Am I saying I would never have sex with the guys? Of course not. However, they would have to pay me A LOT of money to do so.
    In other words, I am 100% fine with being called a "prostitute". I'm just not ok with people trying to sugarcoat it. Let's call a spade a spade.

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    As far as definitions, I'm feeling grey on this, I don't know. Majority not-sex, longer termed, more contact, less clientele feels like a sugarbaby. Escorting feels like the opposite. Disclaimer: I am not an escort or a sugarbaby. Hell, I don't even eat that much sugar, come to think of it. Trust nothing I say!
    To answer the OQ, it depends. What do you consider a "job?" I define it by how hard I work. So that one aforementioned chick who is on ALL the sites ALL of the time, probably yeah, lol. XD
    But, seriously, there's a mil definitions. Pick your fav? -_-"
    1. A paid position of regular employment
    2. A task or piece of work, esp. one that is paid
    3. A responsibility or duty
    4. A difficult task
    5. A procedure to improve the appearance of something, esp. an operation involving plastic surgery
    6. A thing of a specified nature
    7. A crime, esp. a robbery (LOL)
    8. An operation or group of operations treated as a single and distinct unit
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    Well I do agree...having sex with a *potential* SD on the first date/early in meeting them isnt a sugarbaby...thats just desperate lol
    But Im talking about actual arrangements, where theres a relationship of any sort.

    Now...in the *broaaaadest* sense...it can be argued that any woman who has sex with a guy who gives her money is a prostitute.
    That would cover 100% of housewives, since their husbands fully support them,
    Or any wife/girlfriend who give her man a blowjob cause he bought her a nice gift
    Etc etc etc...I mean we've all heard the joke that wives are just hookers with a ring.

    Soooo, I guess yes, if guy who gives a woman money, and she has sex with him, she could be considered a prostitute.
    But...in the most defined sense of the word, I dont think thats true.
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    Having long conversations with someone you don't want to talk to and driving all over town to meet up to eat lunch is work.

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    I tried to do the sugardaddy thing once, but not for normal reasons.
    I was tired of dating uneducated guys. I wanted intellectually stimulating conversation!!!!! I wanted to go on a date in which I didn't have to educate my date on the wine!!!!
    Heck, I didn't want to always have to pay for the wine!!!!
    I thought that since my desires were not financially-involved, the guys I met might allow me to date them and decide if I wanted to sleep with them after a date or two.
    You see, if they all really wanted a girl on their arms to spoil, this would work. I didn't care how much money was involved-- that was a perk, really. I made it clear that I was very sexual, but I wanted to give them and myself the opportunity to see if personality/looks/chemistry worked first for the first couple of dates.
    After three different guys, I never slept with any of them. Why? Two expected sex on the first date. One was weird, took things slow, then flaked after we made-out.
    So, none of them REALLY wanted a hot girl to bang as arm candy/girlfriend. One wanted to start bossing me around during the first date!!! They wanted underpaid prostitutes and seemed to have weird power trips that led to that situation for them. That made dating these guys a chore.. A JOB!!!!!!
    So, I swore off dating guys with money or success. I date an awesome guy now who started a huge company and got screwed out of it-- smart, good-looking, but essentially broke (for now). I prefer that to the sugardaddy crap. It seems to me that when guys pay for stuff, they expect more than sex usually; they expect power over you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny8558 View Post
    I tried to do the sugardaddy thing once, but not for normal reasons.
    I was tired of dating uneducated guys. I wanted intellectually stimulating conversation!!!!! I wanted to go on a date in which I didn't have to educate my date on the wine!!!!
    Heck, I didn't want to always have to pay for the wine!!!!
    I thought that since my desires were not financially-involved, the guys I met might allow me to date them and decide if I wanted to sleep with them after a date or two.
    You see, if they all really wanted a girl on their arms to spoil, this would work. I didn't care how much money was involved-- that was a perk, really. I made it clear that I was very sexual, but I wanted to give them and myself the opportunity to see if personality/looks/chemistry worked first for the first couple of dates.
    After three different guys, I never slept with any of them. Why? Two expected sex on the first date. One was weird, took things slow, then flaked after we made-out.
    So, none of them REALLY wanted a hot girl to bang as arm candy/girlfriend. One wanted to start bossing me around during the first date!!! They wanted underpaid prostitutes and seemed to have weird power trips that led to that situation for them. That made dating these guys a chore.. A JOB!!!!!!
    So, I swore off dating guys with money or success. I date an awesome guy now who started a huge company and got screwed out of it-- smart, good-looking, but essentially broke (for now). I prefer that to the sugardaddy crap. It seems to me that when guys pay for stuff, they expect more than sex usually; they expect power over you.
    That is too bad. I paid 99 cents for my trial on the site I'm currently on and I've already made over 1k in 5 days just meeting up for drinks, one super old but sweet man taking me shopping, talking..etc not including the money slave I grabbed on another site. You do NOT have to have sex for money. I have not had sex with any of these guys and I have not had one try to talk me into having sex with him. Yes I have gotten emails from a lot of idiots talking about sex in the inital email and I simply hit delete. If I wanted to have sex for money , I could put up an escort ad - plain and simple. If anything, I have learned these past 5 days that the $300-$400 an hour I was charging for escort services were too low and I'm learning how to make more money doing less. Also please let me add that 3 guys have already offered to help me start my own business. A lot of these guys really want to help their sugarbaby succeed. There are a lot of posers on this site but I have found that 1.) It depends on you and your profile 2.) It depends on your location. I get tons of bullshit emails but out of tons I always find a gem here and there. I have a lot of time on my hands to sift through the emails so it's always fun for me.

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    Wow! That would've been nice. I'm convinced that most of the assholery I experienced here in dating and dancing have to do with my locale. Texan guys are a different breed. I think many of them have very limited, misogynist views on gender roles.
    I've NEVER met a guy into the money slave thing. I've heard of it... financial sadists are like unicorns to me
    I've been doing much better dancing now that I've convinced myself that I deserve to make 1k every shift I work; if I make less, then the universe is just not able to give me what I deserve that day. My hourly averages have doubled. I made $600 on a slow weekend, at the first of the month, in less than three hours, and without going to any of the VIP areas! I wonder if I had that rich bitch attitude back in my SD trial days if I'd had the same experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    That is too bad. I paid 99 cents for my trial on the site I'm currently on and I've already made over 1k in 5 days just meeting up for drinks, one super old but sweet man taking me shopping, talking..etc not including the money slave I grabbed on another site. You do NOT have to have sex for money. I have not had sex with any of these guys and I have not had one try to talk me into having sex with him. Yes I have gotten emails from a lot of idiots talking about sex in the inital email and I simply hit delete. If I wanted to have sex for money , I could put up an escort ad - plain and simple. If anything, I have learned these past 5 days that the $300-$400 an hour I was charging for escort services were too low and I'm learning how to make more money doing less. Also please let me add that 3 guys have already offered to help me start my own business. A lot of these guys really want to help their sugarbaby succeed. There are a lot of posers on this site but I have found that 1.) It depends on you and your profile 2.) It depends on your location. I get tons of bullshit emails but out of tons I always find a gem here and there. I have a lot of time on my hands to sift through the emails so it's always fun for me.

    Do you somehow hint in your profile that you won't be having sex with them?
    What about your profile do you think attracts guys likes the ones you mentioned above?

    I made a profile on SA and my intention is not to have sex with guys who I'll potentially meet up with. I'm in Socal land of gold diggers so I'm not sure what my chances are
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    Do you somehow hint in your profile that you won't be having sex with them?
    What about your profile do you think attracts guys likes the ones you mentioned above?

    I made a profile on SA and my intention is not to have sex with guys who I'll potentially meet up with. I'm in Socal land of gold diggers so I'm not sure what my chances are
    I know very attractive ladies that haven't had the same "success" I've had because their location is working against them. Charlotte just happens to be the prime location for Sd/Sbs. You can read this article and draw your own conclusion.
    I can even post on CL and backpage for sugardaddies and out of a lot of stupid emails - I will find at least one or two guys that are worth my time. Guys are dying to meet beautiful women here and there happens to be a lot of money here. So I think the main thing is being in the right place.

    Then the profile, if you sound like a skank - you'll attract undesirable guys. If you sound desperate, you'll attract guys that are looking for cheap p4p. Now you will also get guys that are willing to pay $400 an hour p4p but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm not too picky in my profile though I really am picky about the guy I want to spend time with and I'm not vague about what I want either. I just don't want to say too much and miss the right one.. makes sense?

    As I've said, I've had a few cheap guys contact me but I've also had quite a few quality responses and currently working on two arrangements. All this in 5 days. My trial membership is up now. Will I be paying for a full month's membership? Yes.

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    This is what I wanted you to read on the article...

    Charlotte is ranked number 19 on the list of top 20 cities to find a "sugar daddy."

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    I think that Sugardaddy dating is a lot like regular dating... By that I mean, I dont even think its needed to point out that there will be no sex/that its not a sexual arrangement just the same as I think its inappropriate for a guy to talk about sex / treat it like a sexual arrangement.

    I mean, we all date differently of course, but when dating I dont make a point to say, I wont be going back to your place because you buy me dinner and its going to be awhile. If all a guy wants is sex or a sexual arrangement, then he can hire someone for that.

    But Im a prude in my personal life and I dont hop into bed with guys to make them like me or with the hopes that he'll do something nice for me, or as a reward and guys who look at me as just for sex is a turn off (escorting not included of course, thats in the job description)

    That may also be why I look at it a bit differently than others... I view the SD thing as pretty vanilla. Im used to dating guys who court me...Im used to being taken out, being bought stuff, etc. If a guy thinks I owe it to him because he did something nice for me, I lose interest. And just cause a guy can afford more, doesnt mean (to me personally!) that I should lay down for him. Thats only if / when I feel comfortable with it and want to. And I find anyway, guys who have to put effort into getting that from me treat me better throughout the time we're together than if Im an easy lay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    I would NEVER suck my man's dick because he bought me something.
    If I suck his dick it's because I want to - because I'm turned on or craving physical affection or expressing physically my general desire/fondness for him.
    I didnt mean you or anyone personally.... Just giving examples of how some women treat sex in a relationship...
    ...that when their man does something nice for her, she "repays him"with sexual favours.

    Heck even Ive said it, in a restaurant, at the table over, saw a guy gave a girl a tiffany's box with a necklace in it
    And I was all....oooooh, someones definitely getting laid tonight. lol Hey for all I know the kiss she gave him was as far as it went.

    But hey, its not like a woman is a dirty whore for being amorous with her bf/husband if he is generous.
    I wasnt saying it like that...just explaining the "every wife/gf is a glorified prostitute" joke.
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