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    Default just found my First Video on a tube site....

    Can't say im surprised .... Just had to shake my head and shrug it off. But what do u guys do about it?! Do u contact the site? It was on SM btw I've been camming almost a year and a half and never any that im aware of and have been on SM for 2 months and it was a gold show.... It's no big deal but i've heard of girls getting them taken down.... I'm not a gold show girl i've only done a handful, but i don't think i'll be doing anymore. Thanks for any input ladies : )
    Have a gr8 One!

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    Youre asking how to get it taken down correct?

    First you have to determine who posted it- if it was an affiliate or a pirate. Sometimes you can tell based on the username (theres a few well known affilates out there), or if when you click the vid link- if it sends you back to SM its an affiliate, or if theres tons of SM vids up from the same user, its most likely an affiliate. Videos uploaded by pirates will have NO advertising related to them whatsoever.

    If its from a pirate you need to DMCA the tube site. The tube site will have a link somewhere on it of where to send the notice. Do not send your real name or address as sometimes they forward that info to the pirate and thats the last thing you want to happen (some guy who recorded you getting an email with your real name and address attached). So just make up a name.

    If its from an affiliate, DMCAing will do nothing because youll just get a response back that the affiliate has permission to post it. Contacting SM will do nothing either because its part of your contract too that they can use you in promos. The only loophole is if you have geoblocking enabled. If you do, youre not suppose to be used in promos.

    So you could enable geoblocking in an obscure area like Alaska (which wouldnt impact your chat traffic) and then contact support about having your vid on the tube site) But as I posted in another thread-

    The downside about invoking geoblocking and having yourself removed from affiliate promotions is that its not pick and choose. You cant complain to model support and say remove me from X website because they have a 25 min free vid up as I have geoblocking enabled but leave my links active on Y site because they are tasteful. Once youre removed from promotions- youre removed. Youre traffic may suffer. Unless you search for it or a customer directs you to it theres no way of knowing how many (if any) links are out there directing traffic specifically to your room. So cutting off ALL promotions is the most extreme solution.

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    I've found myself on a very notorious site before. It wasn't a gold show, but it was recorded when I was on SM. I think it was a video given to an affiliate so there's not much I can do about it. So, I just ignored it. Sometimes that's all you can do. Like annabellz said, DMCAing only works sometimes. It's out of your hands, really; DMCA it or ignore it.

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    Ugh speak of the devil, just found myself on LV...Fml.....first one

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    I had a guy today say he saw my video on xvideos.. I tried to look for it, but couldn't find it.. oh well ... I know that when I go into a private, I don't show pussy and face at the same time, at least I try not to, I zoom that cam in and only let them see what they need to lol

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    sometimes you can find your videos there if you go 'Tags' and then find your site on the list. Then go through all the clips tagged under your site. I just did that and didn't find my clip in the 700+ clips off the site that I work. Thank god! But if there is any nudity involved I usually keep my face off cam. So maybe that helps.

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    I'm not sure that keeping your face off screen helps? I don't know I could be wrong, but, don't people watch porn to see the poom poom? Keeping your face off screen would minimize the risk of you being recognized (unless you have tattoos, scars, or other identifying marks like I do). But, does keeping your face out of the shot really minimize pirating?

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    Def attempt a DMCA or if it annoys you enough: just be annoying honestly. Sometimes people, sites, and affiliates give up and just take it down bc youre such a pain in the ass that they dont want to deal with you anymore.

    That's how most of my takedowns have been successful tbh - not the "law" so much as just being a constant nagging pain in the ass.

    People forget there is a real person in the video so sometimes it is a shock that the person is telling you "hey, can you take this down please, that's me in this video" (like in legalese or even a normal email) theyll just do it. Or if youre pestering enough, or if your DMCA is formal and organized and you send it all over... basically if you just never stfu my experience is most tube sites will take it down.

    Not always though for the reasons people listed but sometimes just human impatience is a good thing to rely on? lol

    Hidden forums, anonymous pic/vid posting sites that have no moderator, pswd protected ftps, and people who intentionally use offshore domain hosts - honestly forget about it, but tube sites are usually easier to convince.
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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    I really didn't think of it that way when I first started, I guess, I was just doing it so they could see what they wanted to see, I wear a wig anyway, but then started thinking maybe it would help, I am so new to all this, so I am just going with the flow of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    I'm not sure that keeping your face off screen helps? I don't know I could be wrong, but, don't people watch porn to see the poom poom? Keeping your face off screen would minimize the risk of you being recognized (unless you have tattoos, scars, or other identifying marks like I do). But, does keeping your face out of the shot really minimize pirating?
    My string of thought is that you see "blonde fucks her pussy with a vibrator" "cute girl dildo DP" ... or you know... whatever! Who the hell is gonna watch/upload "Headless hottie bangs a big dildo"? My face not being in the show is fine, cause the customer already knows what I look like or I might flash my face here and there. But an out of context cooter on a tube site? Really? They all got faces. How many times have you seen 'just a cooter' clip. And how many times was it watched?

    And yeah, it is also another way not to be recognized cause tube sites dont have geo blocking.

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    Lol... "out of context cooter"....

    I genuinely don't know what's popular with mainstream porn, I usually only watch tranny or gay stuff so I don't know what's in demand when it comes to vee jays but your explanation makes sense, thank you for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty24 View Post
    My string of thought is that you see "blonde fucks her pussy with a vibrator" "cute girl dildo DP" ... or you know... whatever! Who the hell is gonna watch/upload "Headless hottie bangs a big dildo"? My face not being in the show is fine, cause the customer already knows what I look like or I might flash my face here and there. But an out of context cooter on a tube site? Really? They all got faces. How many times have you seen 'just a cooter' clip. And how many times was it watched?

    And yeah, it is also another way not to be recognized cause tube sites dont have geo blocking.
    OMG you just made me totally laugh out loud!!! headless hottie!! my eyes are watering !! Thanks qwerty!

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    I have gotten my vids removed from all but two sites. One is based in the UK and just completely ignored me. The other said I need to e-mail my name, address, phone number, & a picture of myself holding my DL before he'll take it down. Fuck that. Like I'm gonna send some anonymous internet asshole my info. My lawyer will be handling that one as soon as I can get enough money together to pay him.

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    ^thats not right. Before going through the expense of hiring a lawyer you should try to um let me think of how to say this, Im a little burnt out from being online all day lol, umm escalate your DMCA. I dont know which site youre talking about, but it seems to be a prvtly hosted one. You should DMCA his hosting company, people he has links on his page from. Basically report his 'violation' to everybody. Turn the pressure up. Tell EVERYBODY he has been notified that he has illegal copyrighted content on his page and he has NOT removed it.

    Do a google search for 'ignored DMCA complaints' and you'll find tips about actions you can take when someone ignores one, because thats basically what hes doing. No where in DMCA rules does it say he can make demands for you to submit pictures of yourself holding your DL.

    The basic procedure is you submit a claim to the hosting site that its your material and you want it down. The hosting site contacts the person who posted it to provide proof of ownership of it, or the rights to use it.

    When the person who posted it, is also the person who is running the site hosting it, it just cuts out the middle man. It sometimes gives them a power trip. But it doesnt change the law. So research his site, if its hosted by go daddy, notify go daddy of his violation. , if hes an affiliate of SM or MFC, notify them. (send them copies of the DMCA along with the complaint) Sites dont like to be affiliated with people who violate laws.

    Send him back an email telling him his demand for a photo of your ID is completely absurd. DMCA regulations require no such thing. All they require is a sworn statement which you already provided stating the content is yours and you want it removed. If he fails to remove it you will be escalating your DMCA and notifying his hosting company of his blatant disregard for the law blah blah blah..

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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    In case anyone else read this thread and thought DMCA-what...?

    DMCA on Wikipedia
    U.S. Copyright Office Summary (pdf file)
    "I for one welcome our new porn star overlords" - Cammi

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    Unfortunately, according to the law, the site owner does have the right to keep the content up until I prove I am the copyright holder. I've looked into it, and I have contacted a copyright lawyer. The site's owner is protected information; however, I did get an e-mail from someone on the site (I believe it's the site owner) who apparently used the info on his Twitter. I should've taken up "the girls" on their offer to harass the fucker, but I thought I'd have the money to get the content removed way before now so I didn't want to put bees in anyone's bonnet.

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    ^ According to the law the site owner has the right to keep the content up until you send a DMCA notice, your notice MUST contain:

    (i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
    (ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.
    (iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
    (iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
    (v) A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
    (vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

    Thats it. Once you send the notice the site MUST respond to it. They either have to take the material down (in this case the video) or send you back proof they have ownership or rights to post it (which they dont)

    I mean youre free to do what you want, but like I said, if it was me, i would DMCA and cc everybody I could find thats related to the site, because he cant just ignore your DMCA or demand pictures of your ID. Its against the law and IMO harassment to ask for someones ID like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabellz View Post
    ^ According to the law the site owner has the right to keep the content up until you send a DMCA notice, your notice MUST contain:

    (i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

    (iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
    Herein lies the issue.

    The guy was basically a total asshole about it & my lawyer confirmed that unless I give him the info he wants, there's nothing that can be done except to go thru him to make it more anonymous. Believe me, I'd love to see actual proof that this is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    Herein lies the issue.

    The guy was basically a total asshole about it & my lawyer confirmed that unless I give him the info he wants, there's nothing that can be done except to go thru him to make it more anonymous. Believe me, I'd love to see actual proof that this is not true.
    i may be just a total newb here stating the obvious but is there a very likely chance that he just wants your pic and id so that he can claim rights to the content? i know he would usually have to have a model release etc like we all upload when applying to camming sites,but could he take the information hes demanding and use that to further leverage his position and attempt to say his site now "owns" this material? i know you arent giving it to him,so please dont think im trying to imply that you are,im just asking as a new girl bc im sure this is likely to come up at some point in my camming career as well.not that ill ever give some douchebag motherfucker like this my information either,but im just genuinely wondering if this is a lame ass attempt to "get one over on ya" and retain full rights to your stolen content.Btw,im very sorry that youre having to go through this.i know its a very real hazard of camming that will happen to all of us but it still pisses me off to no fucking end
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    Default Re: just found my First Video on a tube site....

    I think he just knows I'm not giving him my shit, so he made an impossible demand. I basically told him I'm not giving my info to someone who profits solely from stolen content (basically called him a dirtbag). But no, I wouldn't put it past him to use my info to stalk me or out me or something.

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    it's gonna happen, the best thing to do is to create streams that are difficult to be placed on other sites. music in the background, using the names of those in the room throughout the broadcast, prominent logo's of major brands such as coca-cola etc, drink from a can of the stuff every once in a while or have some items very prominent somewhere in screen. there lawyers will then take care of it :-) also watermark the video feed with a url to your own website / place where you promote/sell your stuff.

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    Hey guys,

    Honestly, I wouldn't know where to start to look for my own videos and how to look for them. I mean, obviously they're not going to be using my username. In each category, whether it be blonde, asian, etc, do you just sift through all of the videos? I mean there are so many sites out there...

    When I started camming, I didn't realize that they would record you. Hopefully, since I was new and didn't have too much traffic, most pirates and recorders were elsewhere looking for better shows. Hopefully those videos don't come back to haunt me. It definitely is part of the work to accept that it could happen, but I'm still paranoid LOL.

    Anyway, I've learnt now (thanks to a very nice member on MFC) how to deal with all this, and I thought I should share.

    I read from some of you that some solutions to discourage pirates is to put music in the background, use brand labels, say the people's names etc. I had read upon that before other camming sessions, but there are just times when I CAN'T remember to do those things! I think that for people like me, who are forgetful to do those little actions, you should just use manycams and have your name/the site that you work at scroll in a semi transparent text during your private/group show. Somewhere close to the middle so that they can't just crop it out. It shouldn't block anything, but it should still be somewhat visible-ish. I only do true privates on mfc, so I put the member's username so that I can hold them accountable should they post it anywhere. That's just my 2cents.

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    i'll be honest, if the watermark were nEar or very near the centre whether semi transparent or not, thats a big impact to the quality of the paid service you provide

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    Thanks for all the Advice! a customer sent me a message with the Link, it's on XNXX and Xvideos... Owell It does say my Screen name so i guess in that sense its good. IDk it's weird watching myself atleast when i didnt know i was being recorded.... Whatever i think i'll just let it be.
    So if it says my name and what not it was probably SM? Thanks everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by hf487 View Post
    Thanks for all the Advice! a customer sent me a message with the Link, it's on XNXX and Xvideos... Owell It does say my Screen name so i guess in that sense its good. IDk it's weird watching myself atleast when i didnt know i was being recorded.... Whatever i think i'll just let it be.
    So if it says my name and what not it was probably SM? Thanks everyone
    I have already had my videos removed from both of those sites. All I did was report the videos and put a simple request in the report w/ a link to my cam profile. If they didn't respond (I think one took a couple tries), I put a DMCA in the body of the next report. I had a bunch of videos up there and they took them all down.

    Just report them (on the site) and see what happens. Those two sites have so much content that I don't think they'll fight you.



    ^^This is what it looks like once you've submitted a report. I saved that image when I did my report.

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