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    Default Need some info and tips for my 20 year old VANILLA babysitter/cam newbie

    I'm hardcore, I'm a domme and I also have aspergers so it's hard for me to have the patience and empathy to help her.
    My B.sitter is 20 and is working on MGF doing well so I know she can make money doing this. Only thing is she's utterly uncomfortable to cam anything other than vanilla and she is nervous about pumping clips because she's scared her fam might see it.
    I already suggested ELM but even then it takes a lot of work to get regular sales.

    Camming is essential to her survival because here in SW FL the economy is so bad people hunt for 6 mos just to find a 2 day per week waiting tables. True story

    Can you suggest any sites that the free chat is utterly clothed and the guys are very vanilla? I wouldn't know anything about sites like this bwahahaha. She's already pumping the $7/hr on camflare since she's camming alone (in an empty room) she doesn't mind but that's going to run out soon when she hits 50 hours.
    Sorry if this is a redundant query but I'd spend all day reading all threads for all sites.

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    Default Re: Need some info and tips for my 20 year old VANILLA babysitter/cam newbie

    She could try the friends and romance section on imlive, and just pretend to be the guys girlfriend and not get nude. I would say go for just regular camming on there and tell the guys she doesn't get nude since there are alot of fetish guys there, but then she would have to Dom and you said shes shy... Make regular clips and sell them on clips4sale and other sites? Like vanilla fetish clips? If her parents saw them well, ok they saw a video of her brushing her teeth, her hair, eating etc. Or phone sex? You said she doesn't get nude but has she tried phone sex? Or is that something she is unwilling to do as well?
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    Default Re: Need some info and tips for my 20 year old VANILLA babysitter/cam newbie

    you can pretty much do anything you want on any site. Thats the beauty of camming, you set your own limits. On prvt based sites where they allow 'free chat' models typically arent allowed to show nudity in free chat. Its a legal thing because anyone of any age can be in free chat. So really any of the big box sites would be appropriate- SM, webcams, cams, imlive etc. She can sit in free chat dressed in whatever she wants and do whatever kind of show she wants in prvt as long as she lists it on her profile accordingly- meaning you set your profile to say what you do or do not do. If she only offers light strip tease/masturbation and conversation in prvt then thats what someone gets.

    However you CANT set your profile to offer anal, domination, smoking, foot fetish, etc and then refuse to perform the show because youre a vanilla model because you will be reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    Can you suggest any sites that the free chat is utterly clothed and the guys are very vanilla? I wouldn't know anything about sites like this bwahahaha. She's already pumping the $7/hr on camflare since she's camming alone (in an empty room) she doesn't mind but that's going to run out soon when she hits 50 hours.
    Sorry if this is a redundant query but I'd spend all day reading all threads for all sites.

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    When you say this MFC comes directly to my mind.she might even do really well as a non nude cammer. have her look up some games to play in free chat to get tips rolling and milk the new girl status while she can. honestly she has more to worry about the camshows leaking than the fetish clips lol. i have yet to find my fetish clips pirated online honestly. she has more to worry about with vanilla cam than with C4S fetish stuff.

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    Default Re: Need some info and tips for my 20 year old VANILLA babysitter/cam newbie

    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    Only thing is she's utterly uncomfortable to cam anything other than vanilla and she is nervous about pumping clips because she's scared her fam might see it.
    I don't think she should be camming then.

    Camming is NOT for everyone, and if she isn't comfortable doing anything other than non nude.... she better hop on MFC and hope for the best. That's really the only site I can see anyone making money non nude (unless you have already been at this a while), and even that is a far stretch these days. It's easy to think camming is the "survival method" through this bad economy, and for newbies who don't want to show anything... I think they are going to be sorely disappointed. Our customers are feeling the bad economy as well, and it takes a lot more these days to get them to break out their wallet... it takes someone with top notch skill to get a man to drop $5/6/7/8+ per minute on a non nude girl now a days, and "uncomfortable" won't get that to happen.

    My advice.... keep babysitting and look for regular work.
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    I have to agree with Sarah - I just don't think that camming is the job for everyone, and it doesn't sound like it is really the job for her.

    I don't think that anyone would be overly thrilled if their family actually watched a clip of what we do - even if they know about our work. I'm completely honest and upfront, chat about it like a regular job, but if they actually SAW these things, it would just cross a line - so I'm not suggesting that she is unreasonable to be concerned. But the thing about camming is that being found out is just one of the risks you take - if you cannot be ok with the possibility of being outed, you really shouldn't be camming.

    And I think that a lot of people who don't want to do "hardcore" stuff are mistaken about how non-nude camming will be received by the rest of the world. Yes, you can do totally non-nude, uber-vanilla clips of you eating, brushing your hair, etc etc, and can only sit on cam in your clothes and chat to guys....but if you are found on these sites, that won't matter. You are STILL working in the sex industry, and it will still be thought of as porn, because it is intended to be consumed as porn.

    I am wondering what she does on MGF? Is she just making money from clothed pics and messages?

    If she really wants to do this, but be entirely non-nude and make no clips, then I would point her toward MFC with a hope and a prayer, or toward PSO - there is NOTHING there that a family can discover.
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    Oh - one other question - do you know if she wants to stick with vanilla because she doesn't want to be outed doing more hardcore stuff, or because she honestly isn't comfortable with the sexual aspect of more "hardcore" stuff?
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    Hmm maybe I misread... is the babysitter doing or looking to do non-nude or looking to do vanilla type shows (ie nothing too hardcore- just light masturbation, striptease, dirty talk etc, but in prvt only) because theres a huge difference. Because my impression was the latter, that shes on camflare already doing vanilla type shows anyway and is looking to expand.

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    Default Re: Need some info and tips for my 20 year old VANILLA babysitter/cam newbie

    I am confused on this thread as well because I view hardcore shows as a type of vanilla cam show.
    Then to me a vanilla cam show is just striping dirty talk and pussy fucking like normal sex for most people,
    and to me hardcore show are vanilla cam show just with bigger toy and more extreme penetration fucking your self harder anal DP.
    I guess to me hardcore and softcore are words that are use to explain vanilla camming.

    I personal do not make clips I just do live camming because this what I like and it is what I am good at.

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    What I wonder is how she got into camming. If, perhaps, she was your baby sitter first and you got her into camming, she may be putting restrictions on it because she doesn't want to do it any more and she doesn't know how to tell you. In this case, she may know that you got her into it to help her out, so she doesn't want to hurt your feelings. As you've said, you lack patience and empathy, so you may not be aware of the subtle cues she's giving you and she may not be able to outright say, "Hey stop pushing me and stop talking to me about this." so she may be complaining and putting restrictions on it hoping that -since you lack patience- you'll give her up as a lost cause soon.


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