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    So I have a buddy in the club who I am fast growing weary of.

    Bit of background. I am friendly with this girl, and during the busy season last year we teamed up a bit to get some double shows for bucks parties. At the time, I honestly cannot recall which of us were securing more of the shows, myself, or her, so in the interest of being objective, lets just assume it was 50/50. Anyway. What I honestly believe in terms of us, is that our look is quite different, with her being a natural looking Hong Kong Chinese (very pretty) and myself being a tattooed, boob-jobbed, multi-toned hair, circus freak. (OK, so I'm exaggerating, but I definitely have a "look" to me) When it is hectic, and shows were in high demand, it was easy to book them together, but I have seen few returns on joint hustles in some time now. We have very different niche markets.

    What I have noticed, also, is that, now that I have a few regulars, she is realising the $ potential, and trying to team up with me to:
    a) spend time and hang out while we are both in the club OR
    b) get a slice of the pie when she has no regulars of her own in
    I would like to assume the first, but I am beginning to fear the latter.

    The other night when my reg came in, she sat with us, which was ok, as he will happily buy us drinks and entertain anyone I would like to join us. We have given him a double show in past, so she knows him. Touching base is fine, but she sat and waited and came back continually, waiting on him to say he was going to take us for a show. Usually he takes me, and one other girl, but up until we took her, it was a different girl every time he visited, mostly my choice, sometimes his. Other girls like to sit with us too, but mostly they give us some time to catch up at some point. Once he was ready for a show, she was onstage, and he asked who I wanted to join us that night. It was actually another girl, and I flagged her over, let her know we were taking her, and then returned to find the other girl (my buddy) back at the table. I had to make a rather awkward excuse about his mate choosing the second girl, as I really didn't want to hurt her feelings. My regular then felt so bad, he promised to take her for a show later. Once we were alone, he said he really wanted someone different tonight, but felt so guilty, he felt pressured to offer her a show later. We later went for a double show, me him, and my buddy. I just felt bad that he was pressured into promising her something, when he has no obligation to any girl in that place... not even me. I mean, it's great that I got 2 shows, one with each girl (plus a few more sneaky ones on my own) but I am a totally no pressure girl, and I have the type of custys that don't like to make girls feel bad/left out.

    Then tonight, another guy I have not seen in ages came in, he tips me 50's and often. She came over and asked to join us while we were catching up. She could see he was hesitant, not wanting another girl there, and said "just till I go on stage in a few minutes" to which he said OK. She got him to order her a drink, and then left it at the table as to be able to come back. I glanced over during my stage set to see him tipping her some funny money, as she had returned to the table. When she left for a while, he told me he wasn't keen on her, and she very clearly came over for some of the money I was getting from him. He said he had done a lot of courses in reading people, body language and eye movements, and could read people fairly well. He felt that she was hustling him. He also said you can tell when I was not impressed at what was happening. She also asked me privately if he takes me for private shows, which I told her "usually not". I always downplay what happens with my regulars to other girls.

    I just got to the point tonight, where I burst out in the dressing room "I can't sit anywhere without her joining me!" to which the other dancer replied "yeah, I noticed that."
    I really get along well with her outside the club, but I am often a solo agent in the club, and I really don't want to work on guys in teams so much. Especially when I can leave the table for a bit and see the girl continuing to hustle without me. That looks like cutting in to me. This is also a girl with her own, exceedingly high spend regulars, which I have never even been introduced to, for the most part. I certainly would not expect her to ask me in on one of her regular shows.

    I just wanna do my thing, make my money, do it quietly (she is one of the rare ones that actually notices when I am getting money discreetly from someone and makes a big deal about it- I generally just say "he doesn't spend much, but he's nice", and that throws a lot of them off even approaching) and not have issues with other girls getting in my space. I really see why some girls are so guarded about who/when/how much $ they get. She caught me counting my cash from him in a discreet corner and was like "ohhhhh he's been tipping you quite well!" to which I just said "some was from xxx customer too" which was true, just only $20 of the $300 I was counting.

    I'm just at a point now where I am thinking of asking her to just give me space if I am with a regular, and only sit down if I ask her to. It just makes me look bad when she sits down as my friend and starts a very obvious hustle on the guy, as that's not my style at all. Probably next time my 2-girl regular is in, I will do this. Hopefully it makes the point. She is not hugely liked at the club and I am beginning to think this may be why.

    Thoughts/suggestions/feedback???

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    Default Re: Stop hustling me!

    She's using your friendship to cut in. The former issue was cup night wasn't it?
    She used to do this to missy with her regs all the time but you know her, only had Togo off like once or twice to get a bit of distance. Undesirable but hey. Maybe she's having tough times on your own and is holding onto your success and connections
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    I tend to find it unwise to mix friendships and hustling, it can really ruin friendships! As you're both aware, my only really close friend at the club and I share a few regulars but she's a much better hustler and is the queen of customers forming an emotional attachment. I'll still grab her if it's a show with a random person to help her out, and she does for me whenever she can, but unfortunately, I've had a few clients that have moved to seeing exclusively her - which isn't her fault in the slightest, and she still apologises every time they're in! I guess she's just a little more likeable than me, teamed with a wealth of life experience I can understand why they fall for her.
    Ok, slight drunken detour, but point being, I find it very unwise to work closely with friends in the club - it can lead to some serious issues. Been there, done that, and it only leads to hurt feelings, broken friendships and jealousy. I'd maybe have a little chat to her....

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    Quote Originally Posted by anouk.oui View Post
    The former issue was cup night wasn't it?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by anouk.oui View Post
    I find it very unwise to work closely with friends in the club - it can lead to some serious issues. Been there, done that, and it only leads to hurt feelings, broken friendships and jealousy.
    The friendship itself arose out of the joint hustling, really. My bf did point out something that the cynic in me believes could be true and the optimist in me hopes is not, and that is that perhaps the friendship was created as a measure to facilitate this specific course of action, ie- to assist with increasing the other girls earning capacity. Hell, I know I was nice to a girl whose very existence I abhorred, as it returned some nice paydays for me. She didn't catch on I hated her until just before she left, and that was because I threw a monstrous temper tantrum about something she had done to fuck me out of some money.
    But she could just be lonely and like having a friend... I dunno. I'm separating club life and real life next time I get a chance to chat to her properly. Otherwise I'll just end up more pissed off at her, and I don't want that.
    I just wanna retreat under a rock and earn my millions and retire, damn it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eva Rose View Post
    I've had a few clients that have moved to seeing exclusively her... I guess she's just a little more likeable than me, teamed with a wealth of life experience I can understand why they fall for her.
    I can call at least one to mind, however I think that situation would be less about her likeability, and more about him being a bit fickle, if I'm correct in who I think it is.

    Anyway... I may have vented a bit hard about this but I was soooo incredibly annoyed that she was making my customer feel uncomfortable that night, and that was screwing up my chi and affecting MY tips from him, being that he wouldn't tip me as much when she was at the table, thinking she would expect the same, and I had no one to talk to till my bestimus got up a couple of hours later, then we talked it through.

    I am really tempted to just try to do my "in the shell" thing at work for a while, keep my head down, it works for me when I don't feel like talking, and you'd be amazed what you hear when you don't talk (and talk and fucking talk.... like I do)

    Meh.

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    wow that is so rude! i would never cut in when another girl has a customer, especially when she was my friend..that just breaks so many basic stripper etiquette rules. she's trying to feed off of you and your customers, and take advantage of your friendship.. i would be angry too! i never make close friends at work because this also happened to me, only it wasn't just customers after awhile she started taking over my friendships and trying to seduce my boyfriend. grrr

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    Yeah she's definitely trying to squeeze in on your regs. I don't know that she's trying to outright steal them from you, but she's seeing money and thinks if he's giving you money than surely he'll have enough to give her too.
    I've had girls I'm "work friends" with who have done this. One of my gfs wasn'ta great hustler and would always come sit to try to get a drink and a few dances from guys who came in specifically to see me. I felt like I'd done all the ground work with this guy and she would just come sit because we were friends and mooch drinks off of him.

    If you don't want to come out and tell her to back off, I would just tell your regs to not too feel pressured into buying dances and she will eventually get the hint that your reg doesn't like her too. It's a tough position because you like her and you want your friends to all make money, but not at the cost of losing one of your regs who becomes too bothered by her always hitting him up. I don't know how your club works but when your custy comes in, is it possible to grab drinks and just sit in the VIP or another secluded spot before you start doing dances? That could make it clear you don't want company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiabambina View Post
    I would just tell your regs to not too feel pressured into buying dances and she will eventually get the hint that your reg doesn't like her too.
    Yep, I went for a VIP later, just the 2 of us, and told him never to feel pressured to spend on anyone, me included (of course, telling him there's no pressure to spend on me is just another hustle really, isn't it? hehe always makes him want to spend more...)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiabambina View Post
    I don't know how your club works but when your custy comes in, is it possible to grab drinks and just sit in the VIP or another secluded spot before you start doing dances? That could make it clear you don't want company.
    Yeah, that is something my bf (bless his stripper-counselling heart) also suggested last night when I told him what happened. There are side tables with 2 chairs about the place. Might start things off there next visit. That way anyone cutting in has to carry a chair across the room, and they are likely to ask first before doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiabambina View Post
    she will eventually get the hint that your reg doesn't like her too.
    Thought that would happen the other night when mr 50 made it pretty clear he didn't want her there, but she still joined us. Mr 2-girl regular likes her, but he wont if she keeps hustling/pressuring him the way she has been.

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ...trying to seduce my boyfriend. grrr
    That sucks... I'm lucky, no issues with sending my boy into my club really. Regardless of where he is... bitches can try... Good luck to them, I say. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte_ai View Post


    Thought that would happen the other night when mr 50 made it pretty clear he didn't want her there, but she still joined us. Mr 2-girl regular likes her, but he wont if she keeps hustling/pressuring him the way she has been.
    In my experience, it actually might take a handful of visits of her kinda feeling ignored before she stops doing it. It might take her keep bothering one of them and having one of your more blunt custys say out right that he isn't interested before she even starts to back off.

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    "Hey, I don't want to seem like a bitch. I like you, but you're trying to cut in on my VIPs too much and I've had several clients tell me they're not comfortable with you sitting down with us and pressuring them. I'm still willing to invite you sometimes to double but you really need to work on forming your own regulars, so please stop sitting down with me whenever I'm with a client. If the client wants to doubke and likes your look *I* will come get *YOU.* I'd like to remain friendly with you so please take this constuctively. You're very hot and I bet if you just focus on solo hustling for awhile you'll get some killer regulars and might even be able to extend the doubles offer to me sometimes too!"
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    Fiendish G has the answer that is most like mine.... I would also say something to the girl OS the club before you next work together- don't wait till you are on shift together because it could affect the night.

    I woudn't let four regulars freeze her out. Try and keep them out of it entirely, unless she continues to overstep boundries aftr you have spoken with her. Then as TiaB suggested tell them not to feel pressured to tip her, but you are still asking them to go against instinct and I see potential messiness if it comes to this...

    Maybe it's best to just state that while you think working on doubles together has been great for you both you didn't think that included either of your regulars.... if she pushes it ask straight out " is she inviting you to join her regulars for the same treatment"?

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