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    The upload speed is too slow for what u need to run the encoder with SM requirements, i think this is the problem actually, really sorry for you as it looks u cant get a better one. Hope u find ur way there, Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidina View Post
    My internet connection is the fastest i can get for my area and company.
    My download speed is 72.69 - 81.63 Mbps
    My upload speed is .18 - .55 Mbps.
    The download speed happens immediately but the upload speed takes about a minute to connect and test.
    That's the problem. Your upload speed is wayyyyyyy too slow to work on Streamate. You ideally want 4+ but you need at least like 2 or close to 2 to get HD. Some areas (especially non-US countries) don't have speeds fast enough to stream with the encoder on Streamate, which is probably why there are so few foreign girls on the first page of Streamate.

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    wait your upload speed is .18 wow thats horrible. I was able to work with .42 upload speed but i actually upped mine now to 5.06 and tripple my income. do some research get on google and look up timewarner,dish,century link, any type of internet place n look at there upload speeds it will be really wierd if all they offer is .18 upload speed that is just horrible! Also you can go to best buy n get a special usb that plugs from your router to your pc that will boost your internet. Also try to see what your upload speed is with your pc plugged into your router that might help. Or maybe until you get the right equipment cam n hd low instead of using the encoder, Your upload speed and the encoder will not work at all. You can also try a diff sight to make money from till you get things fixed streamate you have to have alot more spec to work on then some other sites. So do some research and just look in see what you have open to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidina View Post
    My internet connection is the fastest i can get for my area and company.
    My download speed is 72.69 - 81.63 Mbps
    My upload speed is .18 - .55 Mbps.
    The download speed happens immediately but the upload speed takes about a minute to connect and test.
    with ur download speeds ur upload speeds should not be that low. see if u can get a refresh signal sent to ur modem. i know i gotta do that from time to time. all u have to do is call and ask to have one sent to you or it may be in with ur call options. what internet service provider do u use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor_sweet View Post
    I wouldnt use the philosphy THICKNSWEET. If thats the case then we can say oh its football season there using there money for beer n pizza, oh its val there spending all there money on that. Oh its the summer they must not be at home. If that is the case then there will always be a excuse for not making your money.

    Yup, I've said this very same thing in these threads over and over again. I can think of all kinds of excuses that models come up with for NOT getting on cam that day (whether it's winter, spring, summer, or fall), and when they do this they are GUARANTEED to make $0. The great thing about that site is that you can hop on cam and do your thing without the fear of being penalized for "staying on for too long" (like what happens on MFC).

    When kids go back to school after the holiday, I wanna try 9 AM - 3 PM on SM once to see what happens. For the time being, I can't use the HD Encoder, but I want to try that shift just because I CAN without the fear of some stupid cam score suffering a huge blow. Also, the daily pay on SM is a big motivator for me.

    There's no way you'd catch me doing a 6-hour shift on MFC, UNLESS I had that much energy for it and was successfully getting 500 - 750 tokens per hour on there that night. In other words, if I've been on there for a full hour and still haven't made my topless goal, I'm logging off for the night and camming elsewhere.
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    i thought the upload speeds were slow, especially for such good download speed! so i called Charter to find out what was going on...the guy on the phone stayed with me to figure it out for over an hour.
    He reset the modem, he changed the connection name, and it got the upload speed up to 1.5..BUT he said there was still some "noise in the modem line" because it was taking it forever for the speed test to connect and test the upload speed.

    so they're sending a tech out on Friday to come look and see what's wrong.
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    ^^^ That is awesome!!! Hopefully it gets fixed quickly - you really want at least a 2 for SM - they actually say that you need a 2.5 on the site.

    Fingers crossed for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    That's the problem. Your upload speed is wayyyyyyy too slow to work on Streamate. You ideally want 4+ but you need at least like 2 or close to 2 to get HD. Some areas (especially non-US countries) don't have speeds fast enough to stream with the encoder on Streamate, which is probably why there are so few foreign girls on the first page of Streamate.
    You actually only need around 0.8. I had worked using the encoder with an internet speed of 0.89 for almost a year before I upgraded. Granted I was only on page #2/bottom page 1. What does happen is your HD icon drops for the first 10-15 minutes you are online then it shows back up again and stays up.

    Right now I have the highest upload speed in my area which is in the ball park of 1.5-2.0 (depending on time of day and other factors) and now my HD icon never drops.



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    Ladies, can anyone please tell me if a i7 processor really makes difference? Did anyone upgrade to it after Streamate announced the requirement? I am currently using an i3. Wondering if getting an i7 will really improve my placement and/or traffic - want to know about it before I buy a new laptop...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    Ladies, can anyone please tell me if a i7 processor really makes difference? Did anyone upgrade to it after Streamate announced the requirement? I am currently using an i3. Wondering if getting an i7 will really improve my placement and/or traffic - want to know about it before I buy a new laptop...
    The answer to this depends almost entirely on what you're running on now, and what your upload speed is. If you have a bad upload speed, (like under 1 mbps), I don't think an i7 will help you at all.

    Example - I have under 1 mpbs upload speed. I bought an asus i7. No improvement whatsoever.

    If you have a crappy laptop right now but good upload speed, I would say an i7 would be a very worthwhile investment.
    If you have a decent laptop right now, but bad upload speed, go instead for a better internet package.

    If you want to improve your placement, I think you could easily get away with camming on an i3, but it's really stream quality (as delivered by upload speed) that would likely affect your placement.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    The answer to this depends almost entirely on what you're running on now, and what your upload speed is. If you have a bad upload speed, (like under 1 mbps), I don't think an i7 will help you at all.

    Example - I have under 1 mpbs upload speed. I bought an asus i7. No improvement whatsoever.

    If you have a crappy laptop right now but good upload speed, I would say an i7 would be a very worthwhile investment.
    If you have a decent laptop right now, but bad upload speed, go instead for a better internet package.

    If you want to improve your placement, I think you could easily get away with camming on an i3, but it's really stream quality (as delivered by upload speed) that would likely affect your placement.
    Thank you Incantatious)) Let me clarify - I have good upload speed (like 20+mbps) at the moment, but running the Encoder+other software I use would load my i3 up to 95+%. It must be affecting my stream quality, though it might be not seen on my end. What gives me doubt is that a) Noone complains about my video unless my Internet connection goes bad; b) I know girls who work with a studio using i7-s, and they say that the Encoder would own the processor just like it owns my i3. Does it act the same way on your Asus?
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    ^ i think the quality mostly depends on the ram. i use an i3, when all the updates started going on i couldn't adjust to the new setting properly so i upgraded my laptop to 8gb of ram (originally 4gb). now it works perfectly with sm. i wouldn't get an i7 solely for the purpose of streamate but only if you really need to get one for ur camming business overall, then it would be worth it. if you own an i3 that works fine just upgrading the ram should do it good. it only costed me $50 to do it, sure as hell beats spending $600-$800 just to work on streamate.

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    Just a side note about the i7 thing....I was chatting with a couple friends of mine the other day about a new system (because I intend to get a new one within the next few months, hopefully) and we were talking about the use of an i7. These guys are guys that work in the industry - one builds computers for gaming, the others are game builders, and "legal" hackers - they know what they are talking about.

    The general consensus was that there is no point in getting an i7. Given the cost difference, if you are going to go to that level, just get an i9 and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    Just a side note about the i7 thing....I was chatting with a couple friends of mine the other day about a new system (because I intend to get a new one within the next few months, hopefully) and we were talking about the use of an i7. These guys are guys that work in the industry - one builds computers for gaming, the others are game builders, and "legal" hackers - they know what they are talking about.

    The general consensus was that there is no point in getting an i7. Given the cost difference, if you are going to go to that level, just get an i9 and be done with it.
    If you're building, i9 is the shit. Finding premade systems with an i9 that won't break the bank is difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedprincess View Post
    If you're building, i9 is the shit. Finding premade systems with an i9 that won't break the bank is difficult.
    Same with most i7 though - I mean, really, the difference in terms of price is marginal compared to the difference in power...then again, I know that for a lot of people, that extra $100 really WOULD break the bank. God, I can drool over computers now....I really want to build my own desktop AND get a new gamer laptop....
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    If there are any laptops with i9, they definitely cost a fortune. So, an i7 seems to be the only option, so far(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    If there are any laptops with i9, they definitely cost a fortune. So, an i7 seems to be the only option, so far(
    Oh, they exist!!! But yeah, not the cheapest...then again, the i7 laptops aren't exactly cheap, especially when you factor in the required graphics cards, RAM, etc etc that we need...

    I was talking to a friend about laptops and that I need a new one, but I don't have a spare $1500 lying around....and she was all "oh, you can TOTALLY get a decent laptop for a few hundred!". After I stopped rolling around laughing, I pointed out that even if could make those laptops function with all the crap I run in order to work, I would end up burning through them within a matter of months - or even weeks! People just really don't understand what we need - unless they are gamers, and then there is sympathy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    If you have a crappy laptop right now but good upload speed, I would say an i7 would be a very worthwhile investment.

    That's me right now...very good upload speed and internet connection, but an old Sony VAIO laptop. I read on another forum that this laptop (see the link below) would be good for camming. And, of course, when I revisited the link just now, it showed that the laptop is now out of stock..... *bangs head on desk*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    Ladies, can anyone please tell me if a i7 processor really makes difference?
    The i3 is a dual core processor whereas the i5 and i7 are quad core processors. The difference between i5 and i7 is hyper threading. Unless you're doing video animations (this is where hyper threading comes to play) you don't *need* the i7. I was running the encoder with a quad core processor (before the i-series) just fine; but I also had good ram and spent hours tweaking my settings to get everything to where it needed to be. Now I'm on an i5 and the encoder works better than ever


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    Got an i5 myself when SM required us to have "atleast" i7, happy i listened to my inner voice and did not buy i7, i felt they exaggerating with this requirement. before my i5 i had a dual core amd that was working just fine with the encoder and placement did not change since i upgraded. but i know i can splitcam now if i want and able to run imlive HD if i want or other site. upload speed is 1Mb or a bit lower and i am on 1st page middle/bottom or 2nd page up/middle depending when i work. i only work classic chat and a few hrs a day, 3-5 hrs depending how busy i am; my conclusion is i7 is not a need just to work SM;

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    I did some investigation and found out both i5s and i7s can be either quad or duo, so one has to look for an exact model.
    What I'm using now is a duo i3/3Gb RAM (HP ProBook 4720s), so looks like I have to upgrade anyway =/.

    The minimum required processor now is i5, but what if, in a few months, the SM guys come up with another software modification that requires us to use i7s or i9s?(((( IMO, having some spare system resources won't hurt. I7s are more expensive, indeed - but buying a i7 laptop straight off would be better than buying a i5 and then having to upgrade to i7.

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    Wouldn't it be just AWESOME if SM explained why, specifically, an i7?

    I know over here you can get some i7's in a similar price range to i5's.

    Plus, if I'm being completely honest, I love the appearance of my laptop, I love that I can run cool games on it, that it has loads of disc space for all my music / films / etc, and the fact that it came with incredibly swanky Bang & Olufsen speakers built into it!

    So yeah, if you're like me, and you use your laptop for pretty much everything short of wiping your ass, it won't just be a business investment and you'll feel the benefit of it in all you use it for.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Wouldn't it be just AWESOME if SM explained why, specifically, an i7?

    SM needs to do better about explaining things in general. One of my MFC regulars comes to see me on SM now too, and on his first day in my room I had to explain a bunch of stuff to him...stuff that SM SHOULD be explaining in detail to members when they sign up (they need their own Wiki page like what MyFreeCams has). I have a SM member's account too, and I can tell you that other than that sad-looking menu they have at the top of the screen (when you log into Streamate.com), there's very little info available for members.


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    Plus, if I'm being completely honest, I love the appearance of my laptop.

    When I do get a new laptop, unfortunately it's not gonna be pretty like my pink Sony VAIO is, so I'm gonna be sure to decorate it with laptop skins...preferably stars and music notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    The minimum required processor now is i5, but what if, in a few months, the SM guys come up with another software modification that requires us to use i7s or i9s?(((( IMO, having some spare system resources won't hurt. I7s are more expensive, indeed - but buying a i7 laptop straight off would be better than buying a i5 and then having to upgrade to i7.

    I agree, and a laptop purchase is a BIG DEAL, in my opinion. So I feel that I might as well just go ahead and get what's currently the best processor. That way, I can have a better internet experience, and when Streamate's requirements change AGAIN, I don't have to stress over it since I'll already have the equipment.
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    I did some investigation and found out both i5s and i7s can be either quad or duo, so one has to look for an exact model.
    i upgraded my laptop to 8gb of ram (originally 4gb). now it works perfectly with sm.
    Indeed not all I5's are created equal. A few members of the I5 family ... most notably the I5-3570K ... have more than enough processing power for 1080p camming. For that matter, so do the AMD FX 8 core processors. However, LOTS of RAM needs to be present ( like 8 gigs ) to avoid forcing these slower processors to 'waste effort' shifting different program segments in and out of a ram that is too small to hold everything.


    The minimum required processor now is i5, but what if, in a few months, the SM guys come up with another software modification that requires us to use i7s or i9s?(((( IMO, having some spare system resources won't hurt. I7s are more expensive, indeed - but buying a i7 laptop straight off would be better than buying a i5 and then having to upgrade to i7.
    The prior increases in computing power and upload speed requirements for SM and other webcam hosts were essentially tied to the higher speed requirements of 1080p true HD video streaming, versus the previous 480p video standard. IMHO this was a market driven outgrowth of the HD generational leap in TV / cable that also took place a couple of years ago, which in turn raised customer 'expectations' in regard to video resolution for everything else.

    The probable next generational leap in video resolution ... to so-called SuperHD or 4320p currently under development ... will require 16 times the computing power and bandwidth of today's 1080p. Because the limitations of today's fastest 'consumer' CPU's ( I9, Xeon etc. ) and today's fastest ISP 'consumer' internet bandwidth capabilities both fall far short of SuperHD requirements, and because the current costs of SuperHD compatible hardware is still astronomical, IMHO we are many many years away from being faced with another generational leap that would obsolete today's 1080p video standard. Thus if your primary objective is to simply generate a 1080p video stream without speed problems, it's questionable whether or not investing a ton of extra money into an I9 / Xeon based system will generate a return on that additional investment.
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