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    Default Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    On another forum a few months ago, another cam girl said something about how everyone else on her site was her "competition", and that's why she doesn't offer help/advice. I completely disagreed with that entire notion. I don't view anyone on any site as competition because I feel like we're all offering something different, and every guy wants something different.

    I'm genuinely interested to find out if I'm just a dumb hippie or if that girl was just being catty. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Technically, all of you smexies are my competition!

    That doesn't stop me from really liking you all though.. I feel really safe with most other camgirls.. I think it is because this job makes me really lonely (like REALLY lonely), and no one understands what I go through better than all of you. <3

    Ohmigod this thread is going to make me tear up, I can feel it!




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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    For meitīs not competition, If it is -> a big burnout for me! I found, that in some small sites where I am, some girls do really thinks that other girls as competition. Some of of them log at 10-15 min before other models scheduled and try to "steal" others customer. Some of them comes to other models room and try to be so rude as they can (tell off how fat/uggly they are) and try to stop others modeling. In big sites I didnīt noticed like this at all.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    In somedays I feel lonely īcause I cannot discuss this job with anyone (except 2 of my friends, but they really do not understand business like this quite well..). I found this site and this is very good! =) So much to read=)

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Other girls are competition but that's not how I view them...also, I'm not like most on my site. Guys will be drawn to girls for different reasons, on a large site it's hard to tell who your competition really is, the only way you can tell is if you share the same customers.

    Focusing on who you perceive to be the competition is coming from a position of weakness and isn't a positive approach...shine in your own light, don't try to dim the light of others. We are all individuals, making the most of our assets/talents, being creative and doing it in a way that enables us to enjoy it is, I think, the way to be.

    When guys choose not to have shows me, so be it, I'd rather have guys who really want to have a show with me than be concerned about losing ones that don't find me attractive/don't connect with me...and it doesn't make me feel insecure that not all guys are drooling at the sight of me.
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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Other girls are competition but that's not how I view them...also, I'm not like most on my site. Guys will be drawn to girls for different reasons, on a large site it's hard to tell who your competition really is, the only way you can tell is if you share the same customers.

    Focusing on who you perceive to be the competition is coming from a position of weakness and isn't a positive approach...shine in your own light, don't try to dim the light of others. We are all individuals, making the most of our assets/talents, being creative and doing it in a way that enables us to enjoy it is, I think, the way to be.

    When guys choose not to have shows me, so be it, I'd rather have guys who really want to have a show with me than be concerned about losing ones that don't find me attractive/don't connect with me...and it doesn't make me feel insecure that not all guys are drooling at the sight of me.
    That's pretty much how I feel.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    ^^^ In purely economic terms, camgirls who do not generate their own web traffic, and who are therefore dependent on traffic attracted by their webcam host, are in direct competition with other camgirls who are also dependent on the same pool of webcam host customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Technically, all of you smexies are my competition!

    That doesn't stop me from really liking you all though.. I feel really safe with most other camgirls.. I think it is because this job makes me really lonely (like REALLY lonely), and no one understands what I go through better than all of you. <3

    Ohmigod this thread is going to make me tear up, I can feel it!

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I don't really think of other girls (on the site or within my particular nyche) as of competition, because, from what I can see, all us models are so different that even the same category girls would attract different clientele. Models can look alike, behave alike or offer similar services - but never all of that at a time.
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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Other girls aren't my competition so much as they are my inspiration. I look up to them and learn from them and better myself through the knowledge obtained from them. I don't feel like I have any competition, because guys are either going to like me or not like me, easy as that. I haven't seen anyone else on my sites quite like me, which is a great thing all on its own. <3

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    My own view is that guys like variety. Other models will attract guys, who will want a bit of variety in their viewing experience. So, these guys might also have shows with me. The more 'competition' the better the site in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ In purely economic terms, camgirls who do not generate their own web traffic, and who are therefore dependent on traffic attracted by their webcam host, are in direct competition with other camgirls who are also dependent on the same pool of webcam host customers.
    That may be true in strictly economic terms but if it were up to me alone to generate awareness, interest and an audience for cam models, it would be a very small amount of traffic.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I look up to other camgirls and learn from them as well.....I am so different that I do not worry about competition. Every guy wants something different, but the vibe of the room is what sells, to me anyways. It's all in the vibe bb's...allll in the viiiibe. LOL ( Don't mind me im cracked out on techno music right now)

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BritishBecky View Post
    My own view is that guys like variety. Other models will attract guys, who will want a bit of variety in their viewing experience. So, these guys might also have shows with me. The more 'competition' the better the site in my opinion.
    This is absolutely true.

    A site with only a few hosts online is not going to be worth it. Popular hosts bring traffic.


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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I don't really view other camgirls as competition honestly. Most other models offer something totally different than I do, so there's really no comparison. I'm not going to compare myself to an ebony BBW model, or a buxom blonde porn star because it's pointless... guys that are into them wouldn't be into me anyway. If there was another camgirl my age with milky skin, long auburn hair and a natural look, who also lactates, then yeah I'd consider her my competition (maybe there is one, I don't know... I don't check SM that often anymore). But I wouldn't feel hostile towards her. If anything it might just inspire me a little more.. especially if I saw my regs in her room or something. I'd take that as my cue, "Hey log on so you can get a piece of the pie too!"

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I don't exactly consider other girls "competition" per se, I don't expect anyone to steal custies. But at the same I don't want to draw new girls to the biz because sheer number of models makes things harder.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Dude, we work on the INTERNET. I cannot see all of the inhabitants of the internet as my "competition" and still stay sane. That's just impossible. If anything, I wish more "hot"/"in-demand" cam girls paid attention to my site so as to drive more paying traffic to it. Guys would come looking for them and find me out, as something different.

    All the talk of competition is just silly. I just can't imagine being so suspicious and paranoid of cam-girls literally around the world, online, at the same time as me. That's insane.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Models that offer the same services are competiting, whether it's indirectly or directly. I'd agree with Melonie in that if several girls are on the same big box site, they're competing for the same pool of customers, especially if they offer a specific fetish that many other models do not offer. Ultimately, though, we are all after the same large group of customers: people that purchase webcam shows. Nine times out of ten, if a customer comes to me and asks me if I'm available for a show, and I'm not, he will just ask if I know anyone that is. They're not always picky - they just want an available girl. Like Becky said, guys like variety. That's not to say that every guy will settle for any girl as long as she's available; some will not spend money on a girl that doesn't have the features they're looking for. Also, guys are just as much at risk of getting ripped off as we are in this industry, so finding a new cam girl that they don't know to be reliable might be a risk they are not willing to take.

    That being said, there are definitely girls out there that are catty and knowingly steal customers. The adult industry is cutthroat, and dealing with people that operate that way is an unfortunate part of any business. I think that's a really horrible way to operate, because you're feeding on someone else's success rather than creating your own. I'm all for helping and advising models, but only if they are willing to help themselves. Giving out trade secrets isn't part of a successful business plan, but helping those that truly want to be successful is a good practice, in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I tease sometimes about other girls in my niche, but at the end of the day I'm an individual, and I know a lot of my regs come to me because I am attracting them with more than T&A. Yes, technically we are all competing, but I really agree with the variety aspect. The reason men come to us is that they don't have to be monogamous, and I am under no illusion that I am their one and only.

    To believe that other camgirls aren't your competition is a bit naive, in the big scheme of things, but if you let that get in your head then you are gonna mess up your game. The only reason I look at the page with everyone online listed is to see how busy it looks, and then I do my thing. I think the oversaturation of new girls who come and go hurt our bottom line too, but nothing I can do to control that either.

    I love this site, it has educated me, saved me from being scammed, given me support on issues that no one else in the world could possibly relate to, etc., and I really enjoy sharing what I learn as I go along, but I'm also not gonna tell everyone the hours and days that are awesome for me, and little details that I have found to be incredibly lucrative. I respect everyone else here to also keep that info to themselves as well.


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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I guess that theoretically, they are my competition (well, obviously) but I just don't think about it that way.

    A big part of the reason for that is that while, yes, we are trying to earn from the same pool of guys - that pool is HUGE. Christ, the group consisting of "guys looking for porn online" is hardly an exclusive club!!! It's different in a strip club, where you might have 60 girls competing over a room that has 100 guys in it, or even those terrible nights where there are more girls on the floor than customers through the door. THEN you are definitely competing, and can feel it in the air. But I feel like online, we are almost dealing with an unlimited number of potential customers - why would I get all het up about one guy going to someone else, if there are hundreds of thousands of other guys still out there? Pointless negativity.

    And in terms of not wanting to offer advice because it would mean that you earn less....well, that's just patently NOT true!! I can think of about 10 customers off the top of my head that have come to me because one of my cam-girl friends on twitter re-tweeted me, or they saw a conversation we were having on some form of social media. They see me chatting to a favorite girl and think - ooh, if she likes her, maybe I should go check her out! More money for me....

    And then there is the cammodels link....where I make money off of someone spending with other girls. Yes PLEASE.

    And on top of all of that, I want to give advice because I want to help the industry!!! I want to see a site with great, talented women that customers want to go to, because if the site is popular and the girls are good, I will make more money. If I am on a site where everyone else is sitting in semi-darkness cracking their gum and ignoring the screen, I'm not going to get great traffic, now am I?

    I feel like when you are competing for such a HUGE client base, hoarding secrets is just petty and negative. I want to work at being a great model among other great models - I want to work on a site that is known for having awesome women working there. I feel like hiding info from others in order to make sure that you are the "best" is kind of like sneaking into a 3rd grade classroom and showing off about getting an A. I would much rather work with people that challenge me and lift me up, instead of hoping to push others down.
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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    Not at all! If another girl has more regs and makes more $$ than me chances are it's because she works harder!!
    Thats one thing that kills me about cam girls is thinking you are going to go online 5 hours a week and guys are just going to throw money at you because you are hot.
    I may be prettier than some but if they have put their blood sweat and tears into getting their name out and collecting loyal guys then it doesn't matter how ugly they are!
    I am hot but I have shitty work ethic so I make half as much money. Camming has so little to do with what you look like. It has everything to do with communications, networking and effort.

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I never feel that way about other girls because I handle my room my own way to get customers, my looks my body type accent n all I wish I was less anti social in the cam world/

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    I definitely don't see other camgirls as competition... I maybe am jealous of a girl's look or her schtick- Like, "Oh! I should've thought of that first!". But like the other posters here, I want to be on the front page on my site, but I don't need to step on other girls to get there. Each girl offers something different, that's the beauty of not being a cookie-cutter type of girl (i.e. pornos) on a cookie-cutter site.
    Before I found SW, I was very lonely. I felt so alone in this "camming-thing" and like I was the only one with the problems that I have... lack of motivation to log in, bad $$ nights, crazy work hours... So, meeting all of you, I feel like I belong and like I'm not weird. Even if I really am. Haha!

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    Default Re: Do you see other cam girls as "competition"?

    if you;re logged on in the same time as me, you are my competition.

    we compete for the same customers who ( I think), most of them, have no defined idea as to what they want to see/spend on.

    but that doesnt mean I personally hate anyone. or think badly of anyone, while I compete with them.
    Not at all.

    Its actually the opposite.
    Its like a chess game with another great chess game player.
    You definitely compete, but you love every minute of it.

    any model who does not see others as competition skipped the basic economy class in school

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