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    Default Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    This is my little thread about my experiences on Skype since I went Indy.
    I use Payoneer and Amazon gift. I've also accepted money orders to my PO box and in the past used my camsites for donations for a combination of shows and vids; mostly MGF and the site that use to be Camflare...omg the name has totally slipped my mind!
    Anyways I seriously have 0 patience to sit on any site for 5-6 hours per night so I mostly do clips and went indy.
    I have a LOT of contacts on my Skype and do shows with maybe 10 of them regularly.
    I have ads on Cammodeldirectory and SkypeGirlsLive. I am going to create a pro facebook and make some PG Twitter clips. I am also going to promo on FetLIfe just to get my Skype name out there.

    Now here's the thing....of all the guys you add, 85% of them will try to call you for free or act like they have no idea that you are a cam girl. They will not tell you/admit that they got your name from an ad and know full well that you charge.
    Here is a little demo on how I deal with it:

    Skype Guy: Hey BB
    me: Hi sweetie thanks for the add
    (Uninvited call from Skype guy)
    me: You cannot call me without approved payment method and sheduled time
    Skype Guy: Oh ok.
    me: Do you want a show? I am a professional cam girl
    Skype Guy: yes
    me: what is your preferred payment method, Payoneer or Amazon Gift?
    Skype Guy: Oh I have to pay?

    --->Right click on the guys name, hit block and tick 'remove from contacts'

    Every single one is the same. I do this 25 times a day.
    They ask for free preview...
    me: No. Sorry I can't do that. 100 guys a day ask me for a free preview and I don't offer that. You can see me at my website and I have the best cam/internet speed possible.

    poof. the guy is gone

    So basically you want to bring in as many losers as possible, block them the first time that they show you they are not interested in a paid show then they can never add you again. You will get about 5 good ones for ever 100 losers you add. Do not HESITATE to block, do not give any second chances.
    I charge $40 for a 15 minute show and $25 for a 10. I also sell monthly memberships for $100.

    Hope this helps the aspiring indy's!!
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    Yeah, since I joined CMD I get constant free loaders now. They start off sounding legit and then the second they find out I don't turnm my cam on for free they go ape shit. Today I even had guy ask if I do beast. I told the guy who runs CMD we should make a list of skype ID of known scammers/time wasters but he doesn't think it would change anything-. I had one guy try to contact me FOR DAYS for a show and when i finally answered he just gave me some run-around.

    The most ridiculous guys are the ones that add me on Skype andthen five seconds laterb tell me they forget what i look like. It's like you obviously JUST saw my ad..are you fucking brain dead?

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    lmao. Do you block them? I find that you have to or they will never ever stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    lmao. Do you block them? I find that you have to or they will never ever stop.
    They block me as soon as I tell them their skype ID is going on the "men seeking men" section of the San Fran Craigslist website..tehe.


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    hahaha love it. I try not to get too upset about it. Literally every conversation I have with guys of this sort are the same and I eliminate them all within 30 seconds. Poof! begone

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    If a client pays u through Payoneer, how long does it take for the payment to show up?

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    See, that's why I would use more payment gateways with them. I'm putting payment/link buttons on my site when I throw it up and only then after payment will they get my skype name. Fuck all that noise, I'm not wasting time on losers who don't intend to spend. Even if they look up my Name on Skype and try and add me I'll throw up a automatic message if I have to that says No previews, pay before play!

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    I don't know if I'm just lucky or if the timewasters don't even phase me anymore so I don't notice, but most of the people that contact me end up being good, paying customers. This is actually why I created Domino's Damsels. I'm not available very often due to illness, so every time I log on to Skype I have regular customers bugging me for shows. They were sick of getting ripped off by scammers, so the whole point of DD is that the girls are verified and (mostly) well-known cam girls.

    But.. the ones that are timewasters get blocked without a second thought.

    JGB: I've heard it takes up to two days for a private load to show up in your account.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    Had a guy do something similar a couple days ago. He booked a show on AW for 0 credits for 20 minutes, so I sent the request back with 60 credits and he would never confirm it though he swore he did and he kept trying to turn my Skype cam on. I'm not used to prebooked shows on AW so I wasted a little time on him trying to figure out if the confirmation went through or not (no biggie I was eating lunch while doing it) before I figured he was a time waster when he started offering me Western Union or a free Family Guy dvd set lol for a cam show. Ugggh. Asss. I removed and blocked him quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billabong View Post
    ...I figured he was a time waster when he started offering me Western Union or a free Family Guy dvd set lol for a cam show.
    Family Guy?!?! He could at least offer you something good! Or at least said something funny, like... Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

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    If it takes two days for a payment to show up on payoneer, then does that mean a client has to wait 2 days before he can get a show from you? I am just trying to make sure thats how it works before I start giving that as a payment option? ~Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGB2009 View Post
    If it takes two days for a payment to show up on payoneer, then does that mean a client has to wait 2 days before he can get a show from you? I am just trying to make sure thats how it works before I start giving that as a payment option? ~Thanks
    Yes. This is why you should get your own payment processor, or use GreenDot.

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    Really? I usually get the load email within an hour or two
    Quote Originally Posted by JGB2009 View Post
    If a client pays u through Payoneer, how long does it take for the payment to show up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billabong View Post
    Had a guy do something similar a couple days ago. He booked a show on AW for 0 credits for 20 minutes, so I sent the request back with 60 credits and he would never confirm it though he swore he did and he kept trying to turn my Skype cam on. I'm not used to prebooked shows on AW so I wasted a little time on him trying to figure out if the confirmation went through or not (no biggie I was eating lunch while doing it) before I figured he was a time waster when he started offering me Western Union or a free Family Guy dvd set lol for a cam show. Ugggh. Asss. I removed and blocked him quickly.
    Unless you've done a show with him before, he shouldn't even have your Skype name, as that only shows up after confirmation. There's no need to be telling them before they have paid. They are given yours, and you theirs, AFTER you have accepted and they have confirmed.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    ^ I definitely recommend getting your own payment processor, or at least a sub-account on CCBill or the like. Payoneer private loads can be a pain for the guy to do anyway. . Payoneer will often ask the private loader to submit identification like their social security card.. which can be a hassle and pain for the customer. CCBill and Zombaio are both very safe and secure, and easy to navigate for both you and the customer.

    There's nothing you can really do to 100% prevent chargebacks in indy camming except be careful and cautious. Take notes on each customer, and watch out for red flags (like a woman's name on the statement). I know that once somebody attempts a chargeback on CCBill, their credit card is blocked from all future access.

    Also, I prefer to keep Yahoo! open instead of Skype when booking shows. Once they pay, then I can give them my skype handle. Yahoo! is more organized. . there is a notes section, and you don't have to add somebody before they contact you (meaning no weird, random video calls). However, I do seem to get lots of people hitting me up on Skype, and I have had a plethora of good, paying customers by accepting random requests. Unfortauntey, Yahoo! is becoming a little more out-dated, as more and more people have just Skype now. I just immediately put the 'unknown' Skype request into a list that I name "IDK". . and those are the guys that end up contacting you to inquire about a Skype show. Then, after they booked, I put them in a new list. .. say, "Adultwork", or. . "*insert where they found me here".. . and then proceed to write down their customer details in my notebook. It is SO much more of a hassle tho, which is why I just prefer to only have my Yahoo! handle given out, and not my Skype.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    I recently joined one of those directory's that sends tons of freeloaders, I have at least 50 messages/requests waiting every day when I first log into skype. One thing I've started doing is copy/pasting the same message to each of them as I add them, along the lines of "Hey, thanks for the add, check out my website for info about me, sexy photos and payments methods. (link to website)"

    It seems to have cut down people contacting me who were planning on wasting my time by about half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    Really? I usually get the load email within an hour or two
    That's what I've been hearing lately. It used to be quick for me, too, but I haven't used Payoneer in a while.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    When you get bombarded by Skype weirdos, still don't forget to market to them using your cammodels link. I got a signup from one of these "skype freeloader" types the other day, and he ended up buying a show to the tune of $200 @ 75%.

    It takes about 0.07 seconds to copy/paste "hi! My name is Jessica! I'm not doing Skype shows tonight, but be sure to check me out on blahblah.cammodels.com. Make a free screenname and say hi! I look forward to meeting you."

    Costs you nothing, and it just might pay off! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marison View Post
    Oh, and on a vaguely related note, if you accept amazon gift cards and you make arrangements with someone in another country, make sure they use the right site. I learned last week that giftcards from amazon.fr cannot be used on amazon.com. You can't transfer them either. Also, a lot of items won't ship to the US, and if they do it cost like 8 euros for normal shipping.
    I had a customer make this mistake once. Its a pain, but he can quickly contact customer suport and cancel the wrong amazon site's card and get a new one for the correct amazon.

    Personally I always try to send them my Amazon Affiliate link to buy the card though lol.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    I have looked all over skype, is there an auto responder? Also is there one for yahoo? Something like when the guys contact you from the cam directories that says "Hi I saw you on camsite whatever" It would be nice to have an autoresponder that says "Hello sexy my name is___. Please remove your dick from hand and pick up your debit card. blah blah blah " Is there someway to to do this?



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    I want to know this too^^ Id love to have an auto response set up. Despite the fact that Ive been using Skype/yahoo for awhile , I still can't find one Lol.

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    Default Re: Being indy and dealing with Skype freeloaders!!

    Just because you got a load email does nt mean that that the payment has cleared from Payoneer, The payment takes 2-3 days to process. I had this issue before. I refuse to do shows with Payoneer payment prior to the payment clearing because I have been burned once before. Had a, wanna be financial sub send me money to humiliate him and he disputed the charge the next day. Thanks to Roast and Nissim the issue was take care of but I got very lucky. I have also had 4-5 payments returned prior to the show because the guy intentional entered the wrong info so it would show loaded but intentionally not clear, or they flat out did not have the money. I LOVE Payoneer but you need to take the proper precautions to protect yourself. I now have them load my card, forward me their confirmation email then book the show anytime after the payment clearing date. This does not guarantee you wont get charge backs but it sure helps.

    I also only give out my Yahoo ID to prevent the annoying call requests. Only my serious custies get my Skype ID =)

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    "I now have them load my card, forward me their confirmation email then book the show anytime after the payment clearing date. This does not guarantee you wont get charge backs but it sure helps."

    can this be used as evidance that the guy was just trying to scam you and he did actually intend send u payment and get the chargeback reversed?
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    not sure if this helps but what i do is add them then i instantly send them a cut and paste that i have saved on word says what my price is and two different ways to pay then at the end says send me a message when you are ready to play and pay!! works great for me!!

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    I've deleted the posts, but ladies please remember that Stripperweb tries to be a community of tolerance and there is no place for racism here. Saying that members of a particular ethnic group or particular country are better or worse than those of another is at least xenophobic, at worst, racist. Please remember that we have lots of folks here from lots of different countries.


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