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Last edited by cameljockey; 11-24-2012 at 09:12 AM.





A lot of girls on here went to school for psychology.

I fail to see what sort of industry Insight you think you can provide as an (almost) recent graduate. Did you extensively study strip clubs or something? Do you think we don't understand the basics of our own business where your undergraduate (master's?) education will provide groundbreaking insight? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand what you're doing here.
1. what casual sports did you play on the quad? hackey-sack, frisbee, cricket, tossing the football, or none of the above
2. freud: brilliant despite the yayo, brilliant because of the yayo, not brilliant regardless of the yayo, freud did not do that much yayo, or freud sniffed the yayo?
3. statistics, real mathematics or a fun way to lie 73.8% of the time?
4. getting to your comments about influencing people to make decisions - I heard about the Milgram study on Law & Order SVU, the episode with Mrs Doubtfire. Id like to replicate the Milgram study somehow in the adult industry. So, please to provide a very layman's blueprint on how to do this without getting arrested




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I've always wondered about guys who say that they stumble upon a site about dancers and strip clubs "randomly". What were you searching for when you wound up on Stripper web? No, really, what were the exact words that you Googled?
I'll bet you've never been in a strip club either....





I'm interested in your response to yoda's questions.
What do you, as a "random" person, think about the whole strippers-have-daddy-issues stereotype?
Eh, not too bad. Usually 1 per class.
To be honest I created this thread for myself, to see what kind of question people might ask. I have spent quite of amount of time in strip clubs as a sophmore, lets just say that. Also, industry "insight" is slightly different from empirical evidence. E.g., opposites attract is simply not true on a general level.
1. None of the above, I am more of individual sports person
2. Not sure what Yayo is.
3. Depends, modern stats now have these "transformation" of data into pretty much anything you want if you apply enough transformations to a point where no readers can understand enough wtf you are talking about to point out flaws.
4. If you are talking Milgram's shock study it would be impossible under the current N.A ethical standards to do something like that, but you could, pay some club owners in columbia, I am sure no one is going to give a shit.
None of the above, I was on another forum that linked this forum on the general tip thread, found it hilarious because all the tips they were given to the girls definitely worked on me. Hence, this thread is more for my own curosities
Meh, I tried to do that before, I realized is a waste of time. Strippers are pretty straight forward, physical attraction and $.
I think more often than not, is not daddy-issues per say, but just the general environment of the stripper grew up in. You grow up with people in a neighbourhood that has high drug trafficking/gambling/and all other "easy-money" schemes, stripping is almost a natural job in that environment. I dont have a problem with girl strippers at all, I have met some interesting girls/strippers. However, more often than not, at least from where I come from, strippers tend to have a heavy drug problem. I mean if you are going to strip, you should learn how to do it sober.





I couldnt do Milgram now? But it seemed so feasible on SVU. Why did they trick me? IDK what N.A. standards are - I think you mean APA or even common sense really, but you have the insiders stake - I think I could bribe the IRB at your school, could you help me out?
You keep saying empirical evidence - but I dont see them anywhere in your responsesall I see are personal inferences from personal anecdotes which are all anti-empiricism, really. But, all these words
Im curious why you didnt research the word "yayo" or even with knowledge of Freud's work was unable to pick it up from the context. That kind of bums me out and makes me question your expert authority as an undergraduate psychology major who hasnt graduated from college yet![]()
Just so you relax a bit - people in the sex industry arent unfamiliar with academia, certainly not unfamiliar with social psychology (formally or informally). There is a wide spectrum of education levels (and life experience) represented here. There isnt a single stripper narrative or mindset that is truth - certainly not one that can be gathered from spending a semester visiting your local strip club... as that isnt empirical at all.
I get the sense that you have a stereotypical understanding of who is in the industry and that youre above them (us) because of it, and have earned the right to talk down to them (us) because of it. This is a biased but extremely common position to take - which is unfortunate as you seem to pride yourself as an empirical thinker.
Challenge yourself by trying to think outside of stigma and stereotypes, challenge yourself to not use scare quotes when talking about us - in your field and beyond it: youre a layperson as well, so relax.
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You only had to write one paper per class? If your major is psychology, that is difficult to believe.
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Honestly, I don't even think money is the motivating factor for a lot of strippers these days, as the $$$ is not what it used to be. It can be nice, but I can think of a million other motivating factors:
- guaranteed employment in a bad economy
- being your own boss (essentially)
- flexibility
- fun & exciting
- travel
- convenient with children/school/other jobs/hobbies/medical problems
That being said, money is definitely not a motivating factor with dating other men, for myself & many others, as we are already able to support ourselves. Most "rich" men have actually spent all their money to look "rich" or perhaps live on credit. Real rich men tend not to flash or even reveal they have money til they know the girl likes them for who they are... unless he enjoys attracting gold diggers trying to marry him for a cut of his $$$. That's the reality I see these days. And for the record, I tend to go for the artistic, creative, and musical types almost always, which doesn't exactly equate to much money (but enough to support themselves so its fine).
Also, if you agree that anyone can be a stripper, then your argument should go from "strippers want ______" to "women want ______" - just saying.
I think you heavily base all of your opinions about sexworkers on stereotypes, outdated concepts, and norms that do not even exist.


As a neuroscience and psychology double major, I'm calling BS on this guy.
First of all, he is coming in with preconcieved notions about strippers based off of some clubs he visited in his second year of college.
If he had done a DAY of any science-focused college course he would know and would point out the possible flaws of his own observations:
1) Due to your age and position as a student, I'm going to assume that you probably were not going to the nicest of clubs.
2) Of the clubs you did go to, nice or not, I highly doubt you would have even been approached by professional, business-minded, sober strippers, because a client as young as you would have been a pretty low priority.
3) Even if you went to every club and met every stripper in your area - then that is still a horribly flawed generalization: You are talking about your ONE SMALL area
4) Did you take into account the proximity of the club to low income areas? Its one thing for a strip club to employ almost all drug addicted dancers in an affluent, up-scale area. Its another thing entirely to discover that strippers in an area directly within or in close proximity to an area of high crime, poverty, and drug use bring those issues to work with them - that could very well be the case regardless of profession.
Now, it would have been one thing if you had atleast said that you don't believe your experiences to be representative of the general stripping population, or especially to say that you do not assume your limited observations to be a good indication by which to judge the ladies of this website, but you did not. Yes, you did point out that these conclusions were based off of only your experiences, but you did not even suggest that you lack any faith in the validity of those experiences and the conclusion they brought you to.
Do you even realize how offensive you have already been? To say that "in your experience" most strippers are drug addicted, to the members of a website called "StripperWeb" is to say "I am assuming that the majority of you all will also be drug addicted, based off of my limited observations". The tone with the whole "if your going to strip, atleast be sober" line just shows your attitude towards stripping as a profession as a derogatory one. Your observation of our very well collected and detailed work tips and advice on here seems to bemuse you. Its like your saying "Aww, look at those widdle strippers! They're trying to science!"
What I'm seeing here thats most laughable, is that you open the thread with the suggestion that you can offer us some valuable insight based off of your degree, but its very quickly become apparent that the only insight you offer is based upon chance encounters that you yourself seem to know are not based off of any true level of psychological understanding of the situation and rather conclusions that any guy could come to.
Even the couple of things you suggested: suggestion vs declaration in decision making, well that's a very well established marketing tactic. Restating it with a bunch of technical jargon does not - to me - prove that you possess any more insight on college level psychology than any fairly well read individual.
And that's the kicker here: you are not -yet- bringing any level of psychological evaluation to the world of stripping that could benefit anyone here in any way. You are just pushing the same overused agenda of stereotyping strippers and the same tired old "I know more than most about strippers because of ____________ " In your case, you've filled that blank with a college degree. But the truth is that your not any different than any other guy who "stumbles" across this website: you've spent time with a few strippers, and possibly a great deal of money, and now you feel that you've uncovered a great many mysteries about the feminine psyche because of it.
Your reason for creating this thread makes no sense. For yourself? To see....what we might ask? Um, thats even less helpful. So, your not even here to actually answer such questions (you seem to just be dodging most).
Let me give you a huge newsflash: Darling, you are not that clever. You are coming here with stripper stereotypes and throwing them out to see what we have to say about it. You'll probably next start dropping more hints about the strippers you tried to date that "only cared about money", eagerly looking for someone to jump on that and enthusiastically disprove you, therefore revalidating actions you took in the past that you regret and have yet to fully forgive yourself for.
If we had a dollar for every time a guy hopped on SW and this, well....we could probably all retire.
This guy is nothing new...he just uses bigger words.




thanks for this insight and advice. of course it is completely accurate, how did we not realize this before?? fabulous contribution.
what school do you go to OP? I want to go there and get a psych degree and become an expert on the world with apparently minimal work.





Congratulations on only taking two posts to get to your stereotypical description of dancers and where they come from. Just what we need around here, another smart ass poster- child for the "stripper as a damaged woman" theory. You would be wise to STFU for a while and READ the forum. You may actually learn something...
At first, I thought I should just perhaps stop bothering in replying due to the aggressive responses. But I figure, this could be interesting.
I could link you empirical studies from PsychINFO/Google Scholar if thats really what you want. And no one studies Freud anymore so I dont see how that is relevant anyways.
Not really trying to say I am "above" but everyone seems to have that impression LOL. I was just hoping to confirm/deny some general beliefs if possible. If you want to adopt the "everyone is different" belief, you will never arrive at any useful generalizations.
1 major paper, I mean you get short commentaries, that doesnt really count.
I think you are using extreme possibilities to justify an answer that includes "everything". I live in a small/non-rich town, so my experiences are perhaps different than yours, say if you live in Vegas. Thus, I said, my claim was based on experience not trying to claim as a fact.
Because is often looked down upon by society, you would be silly to deny otherwise.
Nice analysis of my one reply. I am sorry, I should have said strippers could be anything and anyone and for any reason. The only legitimate question I have received is not answerable by empirical evidence, so I attempted an answer from personal experience. You are right, I do live in a shittier area than the big strippers I assume some of you guys come from, so perhaps my experience led to different conclusions, hence I qualified my answer on "I think, based on my experience". Now, I could launch some sort of personal attack and say if you didnt fail your classes you would understand by asking a non-empirical question and expecting a legitimate answer, while thinking that it must include every possibility, you clearly dont understand how statistical analysis work. But hey, I am just a newb, while you got the big stars next to your name. So perhaps I am just over my head here.
Aha, hmmmmmmmmmmm. How about........ Nah.
Lol, see above.


This guy clearly is getting off to the idea of causing a debate. Again, typical male SW lurker behaviour. Lets please stop responding to him and giving him "material". I think we've all tried to make ourselves very clear here, but any more involvement with this disgusting individual would be a fruitless cause that only benefits his own twisted desires.
Lets not play his little games, and let him take his BS elsewhere.
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