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    I'm sorry if this has been asked before. I did a search and can find info on domination and non-nude separately, but not how they work together. Would it be worth it to cam as a dominatrix/fetish cam girl who doesn't go nude? It really isn't part of my domination personna, usually I just wear sexy domme outfits and order/abuse my subs in real life. My guy is the other part of the issue; he asks that I don't go full nude but is very enthusiastic about filling in my online "stable".

    My question is, can you be successful as a dominatrix that has the outfits but never takes them off? It's something I believe I am fairly good at and I'm pretty well versed in real life with domination.

    Also, I do have a dance pole that I use for IRL body worship sessions. Basically sensual non-nude dancing where the sub worships my body, or a specific part if they have that fetish. I wonder if that would transfer well online.

    I'm doing this so I can get start up money for a IRL dungeon. It will be my first time accepting "tributes" for my domination.

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    Default Re: Non-Nude Dominatrix - Does it Work?

    My best suggestion is to peruse the Dominatrix category on multiple sites and see what the girls are doing. There is a niche for everyone.

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    I do both vanilla and Domme/fetish shows. When I am doing a show that's just Domination or humiliation, very rarely do I get undressed unless it's for something like a facesitting show (and I'm still not fully nude). I've seen a few Pro Domme chicas on the first and second pages of SM who put in their profiles that they won't get undressed and they won't penetrate themselves, so there's proof that you can do well as a non-nude Domme. I'm not sure about other private based sites and how Domination/fetish-friendly they are aside from AdultWork. Definitely look around on other sites and see which ones are fetish-friendly and give them a try
    I'm not sure about using a pole for non-nude unless you keep it hidden and don't advertise it. Otherwise they're probably going to ask you for stripteases like crazy.


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    Ive never gotten nude for a Domme session... I do both sensual and domination, so the guys know getting nude/vanilla s&f is something I do, but they arent interested in that...the outfit adds to the dominant aspect, esp if you tell them to strip down and be vulnerable for you....once you strip down, youre now on their level and mentally/visually it takes away from the role. When I was strictly domme, didnt go nude at all. And quite frankly, after all it would take to get into my outfits, when I took it off, it was cause I was done for the night. Those things are too complicated for all that on and off nonsense
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    That's great to hear! I really couldn't see adding nudity into my Domming sessions so I'm glad to hear that there isn't the expectation of that from the submissive customers. Really, that's the only guys I would probably attract. Unfortunately the other side of camming doesn't appeal to me, which reduces my "regular" guy base to nil.

    As for the pole dancing as a "worship session", I have had pretty good luck in regular life, especially for this guy who has a belly fetish. Definitely not something I think the vanilla crowd would be into, but maybe it wouldn't be right for the cam world either.

    Do you get a decent range of submissives? Variety is great. Although I'm sure that like any job it probably isn't as fun as it sounds.

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    For the most part I really enjoy Domination on cam, but there are always going to be those that piss you off. For the most part, a majority knows exactly what they want and knows their limits. Or they will tell you "I'm really new to this but I'd like to try X or Y thing" in which case I do a more sensual or lighthearted type of wording without getting too extreme or bossy.
    On occasion I will get the wannabe subs who try to top from the bottom and tell me "get naked" in which case I berate them for even suggesting they deserved to see me naked when they haven't proved themselves, etc etc etc. Sometimes I get guys that just tell me "I want to be dominated" when I ask what kind of show they're in to, as if that's some kind of specific term. And sometimes you'll have an entire day of annoying whiny subs.

    What I meant with the pole and advertising it is that the VANILLA guys will see that and ask for the stripteases. And maybe some of the wannabe subs too. But if you keep it out of view when you're in free chat (if you even choose a site with free chat), you can move the camera around for worship sessions (I like to mount my camera on the back of my computer chair and move it around the room) to get some interesting angles. You won't know if it works until you try, but I don't think having a pole will turn off the body worship guys at all.


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    I dont get too much variety really, but thats because of how I market myself. I mostly get SPH and body worship guys, and I like that, because those are pretty easy for me. Im pretty methological about how I present myself, so I really dont get much of the other type of fetishes... But if you are open to other things, then definitely market yourself that way and it should come your way.
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    Depends on your niche. Getting naked definitely helps though.

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    I've been a non-nude domme since 2008, hasn't been an issue for me.
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    In my experience guys of all types love to see a girl moving her body sensually on a pole. It's definitely a plus to have it as an option. I only get nude when I feel like it, or I seduce the guys into paying in increments to strip my clothes off, or flash my tits/ass/feet. You don't have to get nude though, just tell them they aren't worthy.

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    I'm a psydomme.
    My real psysubs dont care what im wearing they just want their wallets raped and their minds broken. Being a domme isnt always about corsets and leather and studded collars. Most of the doms I know who do the stuff I do wear tank tops and yoga pants.
    You just have to pick your forte and perfect it. I dont even wear makeup most the time.

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    Thats a good point about dressing casually... Since I do both sensual and domination, my usual garb is a tank top and shorts. I look cute, but Im fully dressed, would never be bam sexy time as soon as my cam goes on. Even for my vanilla shows though, I rarely get naked... then again, most of my promo pics, I have something on...I only have a couple of fully nude photos, and you cant see anything at all cause I have my arms over my chest, no money shots, etc. so I think that guys who expect get naked now probably pass over me, which Im fine with LoL I dont mind being naked, its just a hassle to me to get dressed/undressed all the time...esp with that 30sec timer, I feel like Im on a gameshow or something

    Thats why I really think though, if someone has their limits and doesnt want to be naked, esp as a domme, its entirely possible, what helps is how you market yourself, and how you talk to the guys.
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    Thanks for all the great advice ladies. I appreciate it!

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    That's a good point, maybe it would still be possible to work the pole into it. I love doing it and have gotten great money IRL from it, but being non-nude in real life is different than online of course. Subs and fetish worshipers still might like it though. Keeping it out of the background is a good idea, that way there won't be the expectation in there.


    I actually LOVE wearing fetish clothes, it just gets me in the mood. It's great you can do it without the typical domme clothing, but hopefully wearing it wouldn't hurt my traffic. It might help that I am considering going "Indie" with my own site (I have a sub to build it for me) and streams through Skype. So I thought having professional geared-out domme pictures might help with that aspect. Still haven't gotten the full financial aspect of it fleshed out so we will see if it's in the budget. I'm not sure if a website would be worth it over working a camsite. :/

    Were you ladies domme before you started camming or did it bring you there? I am just curious. It almost sounds like a dream that my favorite hobby could become a money source, even if I know that paying subs will probably annoy me and it won't be perfect.

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    a bit of advice, don't run out and invest a bunch of money into outfits and stuff when first camming. You don't want more money into your job than you are getting back, trust me. That's like strippers spending all their money on outfits.
    Start simple. Build regulars. Put in a lot of hours, get a lot of twitter and tumblr followers and learn the trade. When you've done all this and are making decent REGULAR money, like steady then go buy all your frills.
    IMO your outfits wont make a bit of difference if you don't have regulars and dedication.
    Sometimes the girls who make the most money are not the prettiest, don't have the best bodies or fanciest outfits. They are the ones who work the hardest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    a bit of advice, don't run out and invest a bunch of money into outfits and stuff when first camming. You don't want more money into your job than you are getting back, trust me. That's like strippers spending all their money on outfits.
    Start simple. Build regulars. Put in a lot of hours, get a lot of twitter and tumblr followers and learn the trade. When you've done all this and are making decent REGULAR money, like steady then go buy all your frills.
    IMO your outfits wont make a bit of difference if you don't have regulars and dedication.
    Sometimes the girls who make the most money are not the prettiest, don't have the best bodies or fanciest outfits. They are the ones who work the hardest.
    Yes, I definitely agree and this was part of my plan. I am only going to use the outfits that I already have. Only one is fancy and two less frilly ones but I figure that, especially with the nice one, I will be set for a while until I make enough money (if I do) to justify buying anymore. Especially if I get some good foot bitch regulars, only needed nylons or socks for those.

    I saw someone else post about starting up her own site at a very reasonable price; this is what I thought would be most expensive. It looks like it might be worth looking into though, especially given my niche and the cut taken from camsites. I'm still deciding about that though; any opinions? I know have to promote myself like crazy, but I figure I would have to do that on a camsite too given the vast amount of girls and my non-nude niche. I expect to have to devote lots of time to a start up, I know it's not always simple.

    These forums are great though, giving so much awesome information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms.Sadie View Post
    I actually LOVE wearing fetish clothes, it just gets me in the mood. It's great you can do it without the typical domme clothing, but hopefully wearing it wouldn't hurt my traffic. It might help that I am considering going "Indie" with my own site (I have a sub to build it for me) and streams through Skype. So I thought having professional geared-out domme pictures might help with that aspect. Still haven't gotten the full financial aspect of it fleshed out so we will see if it's in the budget. I'm not sure if a website would be worth it over working a camsite. :/

    Were you ladies domme before you started camming or did it bring you there? I am just curious. It almost sounds like a dream that my favorite hobby could become a money source, even if I know that paying subs will probably annoy me and it won't be perfect.
    Its hard for me to say, cause Im not even sure I learned about domination online (while looking up revenge on ex stories to read to make myself feel better during my divorce lol) read a bunch, decided I wanted to tell guys off online, set up a profile, met a guy who offered to send me money for it, delved right into financial domination with him and a few other guys, it was all through chat though. Then started setting up r/l meetings, dd domination sessions for a couple of years and then got into cam. So between the time I found out about it and I did my first session was like, a month LoL and that was about 12yrs ago, so its all kind of a blur now...

    For websites, I think it helps, its a central place, where no matter what site you work off of, a guy can google you and find your website and contact you that way. Also, you can do your own payment, and so charge less yet still get a bigger cut. If I didnt make my own websites, Im not totally sure I would do it, even if this guy is doing it for you for free, youre depending on him to make any changes, add anything, update everything etc. Im too much of a control freak with how my websites look, which is how I started doing webdesign to begin with..

    One major piece of advice though...register your own domain name! Do not let him do it for you..get your own name, and point it to wherever hes hosting the site for you. Ive seen WAY too many ladies get screwed over by subbies making sites for them, and then disappearing and leaving them with a site they can never update, or worse getting jealous/bruised ego/demanding more attention cause hes "special"or just plain wacko..and holding the domain name and website hostage. At least if you own your domain name and he gets stupid or disappears, you still have your "brand" and name that youve been advertisign, and can just replace the site itself with a different one.
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    I dress kinda "fetishy" but it's nothing fancy. I wear a lot of black and lace and have a goth look going on. People mentally associate that with BDSM. Works for me, the black bit hides the tummy I've got that I'm not a fan of.

    Most of my Domme shows are completely clothed and the only time I show anything is either as a reward or to tease. I do a lot of tease/denial shows and humiliation and what I look like has very little to do with it but it does draw people into my room initially. I'll show bits of myself and remind the sub that they will never touch me, can't have me, all they can do is pay to get my attn, etc etc. Or with orgasm denial shows I'll surprise show something to mess with their heads.

    The thing I HATE HATE HATE about doing Domme/Fetish shows are guys who come in my room and I ask what brings them or what they are into and they give me some answer like "I'm here to serve" or "I love submitting"...ok...that gives me NOTHING to work with. I mean, I can go with what I really like but that's not what they are looking for. It's as if they expect me to read their mind. After I get that sort of answer I go into "Well I want to know what makes you tick...what's that dirty little secret..." etc etc and then they leave. Dude, how are you going to "serve" me online? It's not like you can REALLY rub my feet or wash my dishes, dumbass. /rant.
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