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    Hey ladies! I am very new to the SD experience. I posted in my profile I would need cash for our first meet so that I know they are serious. Well I met an attorney/real estate guy.I told him $200 but he paid me $300 for the one hour meet for a drink at a nice restaurant. We are meeting tomorrow and he wants to know my allowance amount. I definitely do not want to low ball but I am afraid if I go to high it could end it all. He has had two sugar babies before that each lasted about two years but they moved away for internships. He wants to meet 3-4 times a month and most likely over night. I have to drive an hour to get to him. We have not discussed sex but if the money is right he is cute.yes I know that can fall under escorting. I know you can't tell me how much I am worth. I am in the Dallas area and kinda clueless. I was thinking $3000 a month. What do you think?

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    hmmm...escorts in the area charge 1300-2400 normal range for overnights.
    three thousand for four meetings sounds low unless he's also covering extras like
    shopping, spa stuff, etcetera.

    if he's a lawyer, and in the dallas area h'd be seeing women in the 250-600/hr range so consider that when looking at overnights. I would maybe suggest 4-5 hour date nights with dinner and private time for maybe 800-1000 per meeting. I don't know. Talk over your concerns with him but 3,000 fpr four overnights is underselling yourself unless something else is on the table perks-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexywinter View Post
    I definitely do not want to low ball but I am afraid if I go to high it could end it all.
    Stop thinking like this. Not only does it lead you to selling yourself short (a mere $3000 for that much work?? fuck no) but it makes it harder to demand the amount you deserve because you just don't believe in it. This guy is willing to pay $300 for an hour of dinner. Let's low-ball and assume you have 3 meetings of 4 hours and there's one overnight (12 hours). That adds up to $7200. Assuming you fuck him (which, you know, you should defer as long as possible/not do to get as much money as possible out of him), you should be charging even more more than that. Adding in the extra time it takes to get to and from him, the non-date relationship maintenance (phone calls, emails, texts.... you know he's going to want to keep in touch between dates) and he's getting a fucking steal.

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    I'm an escort and I charge $3000 for one overnight visit, and there are definitely guys that will pay it. If you charge $3000 for a month of 3-4 overnights a month, you could be getting as little as $750 per visit, minus the cost of driving an hour each way. I think you could definitely get more than that. Plus Shanna Dior is absolutely right, he's gonna be emailing and calling you a lot more looking for sexy talk, maybe phone sex, and it'll get draining REALLY fast. A week of that plus driving all that way for an overnight with him isn't gonna seem worth it when you pay for your gas and come home with $700. Just my 2 cents.

    Have you thought about asking to speak to his other/ex sugar babies? You could easily say its as some sort of safety thing, you just want to make sure everything went ok with them etc, but try to get a feel for how much they're getting. It's definitely possible that he won't put you in touch with them, or they won't want to help you, but who knows. Don't charge less than you think you're worth, and what you need for it to be worth it to you hun


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    wow. He paid you 300 for an hour of dinner? I just met up with my first SD ever the other night. He only paid for dinner and drinks and then wanted 100 for a blowjob in the back of his car. It was a guy off of Seeking Arrangement. He also groped my breasts as I was trying to get his grubby fingers off of me. Completely grossed out by my first SD experience.
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    Overhead, overhead, overhead. Gas money...girl, you better milk it! I agree with the other ladies. Ask for your worth, don't lowball yourself. He's an attorney, hey can afford it. If not, at least you got free dinner and $300 more that you didn't have before. I milked $14k+ from a sugar daddy that I have yet to meet so you can do this.

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    i NEVER low ball, always charge more than what you expect and if they balk at the idea drop it down a notch and you're still getting some good money.don't sell yourself short. if something is cheap, a lot of people figure its not that great. i did this once, and accepted 700 for the night..afterward he told me if i had asked for 1000 he would have done it, or gone higher until i agreed. i wanted to fuckn kick myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    wow. He paid you 300 for an hour of dinner? I just met up with my first SD ever the other night. He only paid for dinner and drinks and then wanted 100 for a blowjob in the back of his car. It was a guy off of Seeking Arrangement. He also groped my breasts as I was trying to get his grubby fingers off of me. Completely grossed out by my first SD experience.
    That guy isn't a sugar daddy; he's just too cheap to pay for an escort. Don't go out on dates with guys off those sites for free, or else you'll just keep ending up with jerks like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    wow. He paid you 300 for an hour of dinner? I just met up with my first SD ever the other night. He only paid for dinner and drinks and then wanted 100 for a blowjob in the back of his car. It was a guy off of Seeking Arrangement. He also groped my breasts as I was trying to get his grubby fingers off of me. Completely grossed out by my first SD experience.
    You simply met the wrong guy.

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    Fun Fact: this guys ex girlfriend supposedly is the woman Kelsey Grammar left Camille for! Ha! Sorry, threadjack
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    Sugardaddy is recommended for guys that are too cheap for escorts. Also, lots of "sugardaddys" just want a GFE for cheap-kissing, anal, touch pussy, lick pussy, bare back blow job and will complain if you arent natural. These guys dont care about your safety, since it is hard for him to get stds that way compared to females anatomy-we are more vunerable. It's a great deal for them--they get your time for little money, get a girl who's more "innocent" and can be manipulated easily, etc etc.

    Most sugar daddys prey on girls who have no idea what the business REALLY pays. 4000/a month for 3-4 meetings? I have a girlfriend that makes that much dancing in a club. With sugardaddying you have to be OK with walking away from losers. There ARE rich men out there, just dont waste your time with the time waster! I would walk away from him. Unless he offers 10/month (metro area) or 6k/month (suburbs), he isn't worth it!

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    I've seen tons of profiles on SA, and there's a section that lists the allowance they are open to giving. I've barely seen anything over 4-5 grand
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    I've seen tons of profiles on SA, and there's a section that lists the allowance they are open to giving. I've barely seen anything over 4-5 grand
    Sugar dating isn't for everyone. I see it like this...

    If you have one guy giving you 3 grand a month and another guy giving you 3 grand a month - that's 6 grand a month.
    That's the way I look at it. Guys that will give you more come along by chance. Fun fact: My boyfriend gives me more than any sugar I've ever met.
    What can I say? I'm greedy as hell and he knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurenAus View Post
    I've seen tons of profiles on SA, and there's a section that lists the allowance they are open to giving. I've barely seen anything over 4-5 grand
    That's because, like that guy you met with, they're not real SDs. The online websites are teeming with dirty fucks trying to get a cheap lay. Finding an actual SD on there is like finding a needle in a haystack.

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    I'm an escort and I charge $3000 for one overnight visit, and there are definitely guys that will pay it. If you charge $3000 for a month of 3-4 overnights a month, you could be getting as little as $750 per visit, minus the cost of driving an hour each way. I think you could definitely get more than that. Plus Shanna Dior is absolutely right, he's gonna be emailing and calling you a lot more looking for sexy talk, maybe phone sex, and it'll get draining REALLY fast. A week of that plus driving all that way for an overnight with him isn't gonna seem worth it when you pay for your gas and come home with $700. Just my 2 cents.

    Have you thought about asking to speak to his other/ex sugar babies? You could easily say its as some sort of safety thing, you just want to make sure everything went ok with them etc, but try to get a feel for how much they're getting. It's definitely possible that he won't put you in touch with them, or they won't want to help you, but who knows. Don't charge less than you think you're worth, and what you need for it to be worth it to you hun
    I'm a guy so you can take what I say with a grain of salt. But two things to consider when comparing the rates escorts charge vs. a sugar baby type relationship are:

    1. Escorting is illegal. With screening it seems you can reduce the risk of being arrested. But the risk is still there. Being a sugar baby is legal. So you have to factor in how much the risk of being arrested is worth. Undoubtedly, escorts charge more because of the risks of arrests. Related to this, escorts have to invest more time and money in screening. Presumably you'll want to take precautions to make sure the guy is not a wacko. But you wouldn't necessarily have to screen in fear of LE.

    Related to this while some "wannabe SDs" probably just looking for cheap escorts, some might just be paranoid about being arrested. Johns are on occasion caught in stings. So maybe the guy is a cheapo looking for cheap escorts, or maybe he just wants to avoid the risk of LE.

    2. Escorts also have more overhead costs. There's the room, screening (see above), marketing.

    For these two reasons comparing hourly rates charged by escorts to what you want might not be totally appropriate. Of course as others said there might be reasons for charging more as A SB, including down time, texting him, etc.

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    Legal or illegal, an escort can see several guys a month, and when she walks out the door her job is done... keeping in touch between dates is up to her but has no reflectionon the time hes paying her for.

    A sugarbaby never gets to clock out, and the time it takes to keep the relationship going between dates makes it hard to maintain more than 2 or 3 SD's a month. Though me personally, would not be able to maintain more than 1, 2 if they are both pretty busy with their own lives and leave me alone for the most part.

    3k a month is not going to go far, no matter where you live... Now, like someone mentioned before, if theres extras involved, like hes also taking her shopping, out to dinners, on trips, buying her gifts, then okay, that totally works. But in comparison, Id rather escort than be an SB because of the fact that I can live my own life with Im not with him...true SD type relationships are more like a BF than a client, a BF who wants to spend time with you, write call and email almost every day, etc. If youre into him and like it..awesome, but if youre just in it for the money then that kind of constant contact can be draining, and if you cant even afford to live off of what hes giving you, it will reach the point where one decides its not worth it.

    So theres a lot to take into consideration...def dont undersell yourself though. Shoot high and negotiate. He already has a number in mind that hes willing to give you...if youre in or under that number, he'll happly accept whatever you say..if youre over it, then he'll suggest a lower number and likely add in extras to make up for it. If youre *way* over...he'll think its cute then ask you to be more realistic. When I met my last SD, and hed ask me how much I wanted, Id ask him...how much do you have in your account right now? I never gave him a number...but was always letting him know, leave it up to me, and Ill take all youve got to give. He thought it was cute lol
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    for me 3-4k per month is 1-2 meetings per week not to exceed 2 hours each with me having to drive like, not at all.
    Whenever I've had to drive, the SD put me up in the Marriott and paid all travel expenses (gas, room service, PPV lol) plus $600 per visit which usually happened on a weekend so it was 2 visits. For overnights I'd charge at least $600 per 24 hour period

    uck. I don't want to actually 'sleep' next to a guy. I want to go home, count my money and sleep in my own bed.

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    I have to say, if you have rates and youre charging him a per visit/ overnight fee, then thats not so much a sugardaddy arrangement.
    Except at $600 for 24hrs...even $600 per visit if you spend more than 2-3hrs with him, is *dramatically* way cheaper than being an escort or sugarbaby.

    The pro of being an escort is you can set your rate, and when their time is up, theyre out the door. As long as theyre with you, theyre on the clock paying for that time, so it is worth it.

    The pro of being a sugarbaby is you are getting all your financial needs met (at least to his perception) as he giving you a decent enough allowance that money is not an issue, and so for that its worth the amount of time spent with them.
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    I have done both. They both have benefits.

    Escort- like everyone said more money and FREE time. LESS time spent actually "working" to keep the relationship going. Fast money.

    Sugarbaby- money,trips,gifts familiarity with your "client"...dare I say one of my best SDs has become like an "associate". Also, the business/ financial advice he gave me is priceless. People work years to climb up the ladder to have their ideas acknowledged, respected, and promoted by the BOSS. In my case, he listened to me all the time and invests even more in my future (so much for that allowance we set Ha!).
    YES you can add up multiple SDs to your roster. I cut the calls and texts back by being "busy" myself. Also, what REAL multimillionaires with their own career/business has so much free time? Not in my experiences.....if he wants to afford his homes, family, businesses, and most importantly,his SB he better get back to WORK. lol.

    I also have felt more safe as a SB, just because it was seeing the same person repeatedly ( NOT that a escort does not have regulars).


    Being a sugarbabe is not as low balled as what people think IF you know how to work it. I enjoy the mental game playing a little more, whereas I know others dont have the time for it. You can actually TALK people into things with the minimal physical...trust me. lol. I have also started at a lower allowance than I preferred before to start and we negotiated higher a little later...there are no rules, so YOU make them. COMMUNICATION. It's amazing how negotiating can go from left to right, when you know what you are doing.

    BEST advice is to never waste valuable time playing games with ANYONE....you already missed your next best one!

    Escorting works AND being a SB works.....different strokes for different folks.

    I got WAY off subject. AN allowance depends on YOUR financial needs and how much time you think is fair.
    Everyone doesnt have the same bills etc.Some people want more to save too.
    I cant drop a number.....I think everyone has to drop their own, but I do know people VALUE what they pay for. FACT.
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    Like the other ladies have said, don’t lowball yourself.

    He’s an attorney and makes tons of money so he can afford way more than 3k a month. I mean I can see 3k per meet for 3-4 meets a month (which would be about 10k a month) but a simple 3k a month?

    Honey, I don’t know you but your worth more than that so start acting like it, and what I mean by that is demand your worth!

    Don’t be afraid. You would be surprised at the amount of money some guys will throw around. Just stand your ground and if he disagrees/doesn’t give in then he isn’t worth your time.

    Oh and like the other ladies said he will probably be texting/calling you all day/every day which takes up even more of your time.

    Think about…

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    I love this thread! Great questions, answers and comments!
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    An arrangement is pretty different than escorting. The guy could be seeking more of a relationship than you can get from many escorts. I considered this myself because I would rather a woman be honest than try to feed my assumed ego. Its a turn off for me when she starts faking it or telling me lies about how great I am in some respect. I know I'm not and she probably wouldnt even talk to me if I werent paying her, so lets not pretend. If I can get to know the real you, while keeping it professional/friendly, thats ideal, at least for me.

    Both parties avoid risk in an arrangement. Less likely to encounter LE, pimps, robs, diseases (maybe), etc.

    The lady benefits from a reliable, regular, repeat client. Income you can count on should be worth something.

    Because of those benefits, the guy is going to expect a little discount in pricing. Everything else we pay for, offers volume\commitment discounts.

    All of that said, your pricing is entirely up to you. I would just suggest you be very clear in the details of your arrangement up front. Any grey areas left open to interpretation are going to cause opposite expectations, arguments later.

    If you said 3x over night dates per month for 3,000, maybe specify the number of hours (12, 9, ?). You also said he is cute, which I'm guessing is a rare quality in a SD, but you might factor that as well... Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondsandLace View Post
    Like the other ladies have said, don’t lowball yourself.

    He’s an attorney and makes tons of money so he can afford way more than 3k a month. I mean I can see 3k per meet for 3-4 meets a month (which would be about 10k a month) but a simple 3k a month?

    Honey, I don’t know you but your worth more than that so start acting like it, and what I mean by that is demand your worth!

    Don’t be afraid. You would be surprised at the amount of money some guys will throw around. Just stand your ground and if he disagrees/doesn’t give in then he isn’t worth your time.

    Oh and like the other ladies said he will probably be texting/calling you all day/every day which takes up even more of your time.

    Think about…
    You make a good point about excessive calling/texting and that is a risk. Maybe she can set the expectation up front by not responding to him more than maybe once a day or the following day. He gets a limited amount of your time for a set amount, not an unlimited amount of your time.

    I was an associate attorney for a big firm and I only made about $120k... 3k a month could be the bulk of his disposable income unless he is a long established partner (is he old?) once you figure he's paying a mortgage, student loan, car, etc... I'm just saying I would not assume an attorney is rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd View Post
    An arrangement is pretty different than escorting. The guy could be seeking more of a relationship than you can get from many escorts. I considered this myself because I would rather a woman be honest than try to feed my assumed ego. Its a turn off for me when she starts faking it or telling me lies about how great I am in some respect. I know I'm not and she probably wouldnt even talk to me if I werent paying her, so lets not pretend. If I can get to know the real you, while keeping it professional/friendly, thats ideal, at least for me.

    Both parties avoid risk in an arrangement. Less likely to encounter LE, pimps, robs, diseases (maybe), etc.

    The lady benefits from a reliable, regular, repeat client. Income you can count on should be worth something.

    Because of those benefits, the guy is going to expect a little discount in pricing. Everything else we pay for, offers volume\commitment discounts.

    All of that said, your pricing is entirely up to you. I would just suggest you be very clear in the details of your arrangement up front. Any grey areas left open to interpretation are going to cause opposite expectations, arguments later.

    If you said 3x over night dates per month for 3,000, maybe specify the number of hours (12, 9, ?). You also said he is cute, which I'm guessing is a rare quality in a SD, but you might factor that as well... Good luck!
    Maybe I shouldnt saything but I'm board at a truck stop (because Im moivng) in the middle of new mexico with nothing else to do for awhile so here it goes...

    A girl should not feel like they have to lower the price of thier worth because theyre not shagging X amounts of other dudes a day nor should a guy expect them to if theyre a true gentleman and have the money to burn. Same rules of adult work (Camming Escorting Body Rubs etc) apply if a guy REALLY likess you he'll pay whatever price you ask. Sugar babies are not the Wal-mart version of escorts were still giving you are bodies our time our energy our everything else that a girl gives a guy and if anything a guy should be paying MORE for a sugar baby because in a way it is having a personal escort. Ive known escorts who drop off the ad boards for a while because they a had guy make an arrangement with her.

    Now your not gonna like part....

    You sound like a guy that cant afford a real sugar baby and prays on naive college girls because they dont know how the game is played if you dont have the equipment get off the feild.
    Half your post in your short history are in this thread I sugguest you make some more contributions to the forum that isnt sugguestions on why men should be allowed to cheap asses ok?
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