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    So I'm about to turn nineteen and while I'm not exactly hurting for money or going hungry every night (as much as I hate to admit, my parents are able to scrap together enough to pay for my vital needs) I am rather panicked about the debt I am going to incur going to medical school in two years (yes, I really am a pre-med student, I don't feel the need to make anything up on here!) because my parents can't give me any money for school. I recently moved to Reno, NV from Alaska and have been thinking about stripping.

    I'm not the cliched stripper type (I won't say I'm not average because I truly know very little about girls who strip - for all I know, half of you are like me!). While I'm never really told I'm attractive, I recognize that I am (by golly I have killer abs!!). I'm also very ambitious and can do some pole tricks and have been dancing since I was five (well, ballet and jazz and hip hop, not exotic, of course). I'm nervous, but at the same time I'm weirdly excited about it. Normally I'm a very quiet and reserved person, but I'm also a killer actress (and a masterful liar, though that's probably not something I should brag about...). I really think I could get into the mind of my stripper persona and become her every night, thus be able to separate stripper-me from med-student-me. In fact, I already named her Sookie, and she has a southern accent (though I look nothing like Anna Paquin, I've been a fan of the books forever!). I always thought it sounded like a stripper name.

    But I've got a few... concerns? First and foremost being the glaring, ugly fact that I am a virgin - virgin everything, as in I've never been kissed. Every time I tell someone that they laugh at me and think I'm lying (apparently I walk and talk like a girl who's "been around" as one of my food service coworkers so sweetly put it one day). It probably helps I have a penchant for 5+ inch heels, short skirts, and low cut tops. So I don't think I put off the virgin vibe - then again, I've heard that is enticing to customers (I've also heard looking like a bit of a newbie makes you look innocent and customers like that, not sure how much truth is in it though). I can be a little hot-tempered and I have a very firm personality (I'm not easily swayed or pushed into doing things I'm not comfortable with, like drugs). So I'm not worried about being able to stand up for myself.

    My other concern is keeping it a secret. It's not that I'd be ashamed of it, but I know it would really, really hurt my parents if they ever found out. My mom had a stroke last year and my parents are barely getting by with all the bills, and I know it really upsets them they can't help me out more - but at the same time, it makes me sort of ashamed that at nineteen years old I can't find a job that pays enough to support myself (I currently make ten bucks an hour). I do live in a different state than my parents, so I'm not worried about it getting around to them, really, and I have some published novels that don't make me much money but I planned on telling my parents "Hey, the books took off, you can stop paying my rent!" I was wondering how often girls get recognized outside of the club? It's not really something I want trailing me everywhere, but from what I've read, anonymity is big with most girls.

    It's been more difficult than I thought to find up-to-date on the clubs here in Reno. Some have said you have to be twenty one because they serve alcohol, but I've read a couple reviews from girls who worked at specific clubs that said you only need to be eighteen... I tried contacting a few but they haven't emailed me back or didn't answer when I called. Does anyone have any specific, up to date info on the clubs here? I will not go full nude and I'd prefer to be in the more upscale places (the topless bars, it seems) just to feel safer. I've heard Fantasy Girls is a good place to work and the Men's Club is awful, but I've also heard the exact reverse...

    Sorry I'm so long-winded - one of the pitfalls of being a writer! Any advice or answers you girls have would be greatly appreciated; I'm trying not to jump into this pool blind (I do that a lot...).

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    First I'd like to address the thread title: I would NOT use a potential stripping job as the reason to lose your virginity. If it would help to know how sex "works," try watching a few videos/pornos/etc. and do some reading. (I know this sounds horribly cheesy but it may help).

    It's great that you have the ability to embody a foreign persona. It helps some dancers to separate their two lives; however, I find it easier and more effective to be myself (I can't act worth a sh-t). Lying is good for some things (personal info., etc.), just be careful about taking it to extremes. Keeping up with numerous falsities could be disastrous and cause regulars to leave you. Also I wouldn't recommend the fake southern accent...just my opinion.

    As far as keeping it a secret--when I danced for a few years in a row, I never had one person recognize me outside of the club. I saw maybe 3 people that I graduated INSIDE of the club, but they didn't recognize me. The lighting is obviously way different, and combined with hair, outfits, and makeup, most guys won't recognize you. Granted, if you are concerned working at a club farther from home may ease some anxiety, but the one I worked at was 10 min from my house. I can't recommend clubs in your area because I'm not in your state...sorry!

    It's not hard to keep it a secret if you choose that route. My parents are the EXACT same as yours so I know how you feel. You don't want to hurt them or cause them to feel like they were a "failure." One day I grew the balls to drop the bomb to my grandma about what I did. She eventually ended up telling my mom and it turned out not to be a big deal, although I wish I hadn't.

    It's great that you have a strong personality as well; it's easy to get eaten alive by the mean girls as a newbie. Just be careful of the temper--stay calm when dealing with bitchyness. A flare up could cause a ton of drama--bitchy fire fueled dancers all teaming up on you would NOT be fun. It's best to just calmly stand your ground and do your own thing. Also on a final note (and again, just my opinion)...men might think your stage name is actually "Snookie," and you will get tons of retarded questions from them. I picked a "normal" sounding stage name so I can avoid their stupid infamous "is that your real name" question, as I find it to get very, VERY tiring.

    Good Luck!
    I'd grab my trumpet and I'd do a stripper sound, like the old Louis Armstrong, real raspy. And the people would go nuts! Then I knew that the sexual, sensual, guttural sound, that throbbing sound, is where it's at.

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    1. It's hard to act sexy and sensual without having experienced it. Wearing revealing outfits =/= being sexy, especially not in the club. Making money in the club is big on the little sensual things - the way you look at the customer, the way you run your fingers through his hair. I'm not saying you need to fuck or even kiss someone to be a successful stripper, but it's going to a steep learning curve if you're clueless about those things.

    2. The customers that like newbies are usually the ones who try and get the most bang for their buck because they figure the new girls don't know the rules or how to enforce them. Watch out for those that get too excited about hearing you're new.

    3. Tell your parents you're working in a bar and make good tips? It's not like they have to know exactly how well you're doing.

    4. I've never been recognized outside the club. Work far from home and switch up your look with make up and even a wig if you're super paranoid.

    5. Don't bother emailing clubs. Find out their hours and call maybe an hour after they open - that's when they're most likely to answer because it's not too busy. Or just go to the club and check them out in person.

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    ^This.

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskanartist49 View Post
    I'm also a killer actress (and a masterful liar, though that's probably not something I should brag about...). I really think I could get into the mind of my stripper persona and become her every night, thus be able to separate stripper-me from med-student-me. In fact, I already named her Sookie, and she has a southern accent..
    ^It's easy to say that you are "akiller actress", and confidence is key, but I would probablysuggest that before you decide to strip that you go to a near by clubto get of an idea of the industry/environment that you will bedealing with (even if it's simply to audition or ask for a job).Also, while it's a "cute" name, starting out with a morerealistic one ( a name that would be more credible/believe as anactual name) would be easier. Dancers called quite normal things,like “Jess” or “Lilly” get asked the, “What's your realname?” question enough. And, “Sookie”, could also be takenliterally and be made fun of by drunk guys very easily.

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    I was a virgin for the first 1.5 years of stripping and had no issues with it. I literally had never even shown anyone my boobs, and I think I had kissed one person ever. You absolutely don't have to have had sex in order to dance successfully. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it. You've grown up in America, which means you understand how social/sexual dynamics work (if you've seen any movies, listened to any music, or engaged in this culture at all).

    Unless you're fucking customers in VIP, sex has nothing to do with this job. You should focus on understanding communication, improving your dancing skills, learning what men like, and learning how to sell more dances/rooms.

    That said, there's a difference between virginity and ignorance. I wouldn't recommend walking into a SC as an ignorant or naive woman - read up on SW and go into this with your eyes open. De-virginize your mind to some degree, but don't have sex until you're ready for it.

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    ^ I agree with charlie. While I wasn't a virgin I think I had had sex like...3 times maybe? before I started dancing. If anything dancing will make you a lot more comfortable with the idea of sex, and you'll be really prepared when you decide to go for it. One thing though, DON'T tell the custies this information. Or anyone you work with for that matter. It will either result in people not believing you or making fun of you or worse, you'll start getting offers from customers...I don't think you want to deal with that. TBH you remind me of 19 year old me before I started, it's cute It sounds like you have the personality to dance, and acting skills are definitely a plus, as is the ability to "get into character" but realise that this isn't always the most advantageous way to hustle. I think this style appeals to new girls a lot because it can help ease the transition into the industry but after a while you may want to consider letting more of your genuine self out with the right customers--this has really helped me to cultivate regulars over the last year.

    I also think you need to pick a different stage name--at best you'll have customers thinking you have a vamp fetish and trying to bite you or some shit, at worst they'll make fun of you or think you said "snookie" instead. Pick something elegant and sophisticated, if you're a pre-med student you obviously have some brains, use them to your advantage and incorperate that into your stripper persona if you can. I detested the dumb girl hustle. I can see you doing really well with tech guys and engineers.

    also congrats on being published, that is awesome

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    true blood is a guilty pleasure of mine, but i feel "sookie" would be a disastrous choice.

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    A good friend of mine was a virgin for the first couple years she danced. This girl made a killing, but it had absolutely nothing to do with virginity; she didn't tell a single person asides from a few dancer friends on a count of thinking it would hurt her money. IMO, it was smart of her to do because there were two girls who were indeed very jealous of her making so much money as a newer girl. They would've without a doubt used that information to their advantage, "You don't want her, she's a virgin she doesn't know what she's doing, I, on the other hand ect.." She was persistent and worked liked a dog from opening to closing. Do your research here, this is a fantastic place to learn the ins and outs. You can still be very sexy being a virgin. While it might not be wise to advertise your status until you've developed a thick skin to the industry, you might want to try playing on the innocent, sexy girl-next-door look. It's a good, profitable look to start off with.

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    I don't think you need to have sexual experience to strip although it might come in handy (being comfortable getting naked around men, moving sensually, etc). But I think what really matters is if you know how to flirt! Strippers (hopefully) aren't selling sex - we are selling a fantasy. I'm sure you've flirted before...just smile a lot, chat them up, and flatter their ego a bit. They just want some attention from pretty ladies & they want to feel like they are special. And it helps that you already know how to dress sexy. So yes I think its fine if you are a virgin. No need to rush out and have sex just to work...I don't even think getting laid would help much. Just be flirty and confident!

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    absolutely dont loose ur virginity for this! OMG worst thing u could ever ever do. Ud regret that so much later down the line trust me. Dont let stripping change anything about who u are in any way. like u said just get into character at work& leave sookie at the club when u leave. lol. Then back to ur regular self u sound fabulous & have a greAT future ahead of u dont let anything get in ur way. Ur starting out in reno, which ive never been but vegas is very sharky&full of scammers which is everywhere especially strip clubs but its worse in vegas. I know nothing about reno but ive heard its legal to prostitute which I would think means nt so much $$ for strippers but i cannot be sure. If u can find a place nt too far outta reno with good $$ id suggest that not saying nt to try reno as well tho.. Good luck to u girl! Keep us posted&let us know how it goes!

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    I'm looking for an elegant name...I'm a newbie about to audition soon. I've been tossing around a few names...Pearl is the one I'm considering right now. What do you guys think? I'm not a virgin but I am looking for a sweet, girl next door type name. Hmm

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    ^This has been discussed before.

    In short: choose something realistic that's a step above plain. You will get SO sick of guys asking you "no, what's your real name?" if you go with "Pearl."

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^This has been discussed before.In short: choose something realistic that's a step above plain. You will get SO sick of guys asking you "no, what's your real name?" if you go with "Pearl."
    True. I have heard this advice from other girls and have already chosen a real sounding name (and a few backups just in case its taken or whatnot). I definitely don't want to get asked the same damn question every 5 minutes lol

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    To every one of you who pointed out "Sookie" sounds like "Snooki" in a loud club... thank you!! It never even crossed my mind until you pointed it out and I said it aloud and thought, uh, no, please don't compare me to her - I'm not even tan! Very, very good point, thanks!

    What about webcamming? Have any of you done that? I thought maybe it might be easier to start with that since I'm not face to face with a stranger in person. I've read about it a bit and it seems to make the same kind of money if you try... any ideas?

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    To every one of you who pointed out "Sookie" sounds like "Snooki" in a loud club... thank you!! It never even crossed my mind until you pointed it out and I said it aloud and thought, uh, no, please don't compare me to her - I'm not even tan! Very, very good point, thanks! And thanks to the girls who said they were or knew virgin strippers... good to know I'm not the only one!

    What about webcamming? Have any of you done that? I thought maybe it might be easier to start with that since I'm not face to face with a stranger in person. I've read about it a bit and it seems to make the same kind of money if you try... any ideas?

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    I've heard wbcamming is way less $$ than stripping plus then there's proof of u doin webshows cuz ur on a webcam&that could come out later in lljfe at the wong time...as w stripping nobody has u on camera.

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    This sounds like it was totally written by a dude.
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    ^Oh well. Even if it is, it's still a totally legit question. I had that question to some degree when I started. Except, being asexual, it didn't really matter anyway...

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    Well, I'm not a dude, but seeing as two of my novels are written from male perspectives I guess I can take that as a compliment. I looked into webcamming and decided within minutes I DO NOT want to take that many precautions! Seems weird that it's more dangerous than stripping down right in from of some random stranger, doesn't it? All that guy can do is follow you home - crazy internet man might hack into your computer, watch you through your webcam, get your personal info, steal your identity, and then come kill you.

    NOT my idea of a decent living, no matter how easy!

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    wanting to strip is a terrible reason to lose your virginity. watch some porn online so you can master your skank face and have a few "favorite" positions to tell guys who ask.

    ive never been recognized outside of work and nobody from my real life has ever wandered into my club. its not a big deal. btw, reno isnt that bad of a place to start out as a newbie. you will be required to get a dancers license tho which will be more obvious on intense background checks. all of my clubs have 1099'd me but they have all listed themselves as some boring code name like "abc restaurant" so it will be really easy to explain that you did freelance club promotions.

    Sookie is a horrible name and the worst thing for a newbie to do is overthink this and get obsessed with their persona. when you are new keep it simple. wear a clean, flattering, simple outfit. if you can afford it id recommend getting a matching set from vs because that is most common at strip clubs but you can also find extremely cheap lacey bras at forever 21 and h&m for under $10. pretend like you are a friendly waitress just asking if anyone needs another drink, except in your case its a lap dance. be a normal person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alaskanartist49 View Post
    Well, I'm not a dude, but seeing as two of my novels are written from male perspectives I guess I can take that as a compliment. I looked into webcamming and decided within minutes I DO NOT want to take that many precautions! Seems weird that it's more dangerous than stripping down right in from of some random stranger, doesn't it? All that guy can do is follow you home - crazy internet man might hack into your computer, watch you through your webcam, get your personal info, steal your identity, and then come kill you.

    NOT my idea of a decent living, no matter how easy!
    What?? That is highly unrealistic. IMO, camming has been far safer than dancing for me because I was followed home from the club in a taxi several times, was recognized several times outside the club, etc. They both have their pros and cons.

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