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    I really hate losing money to work. Every place must have slow times. What do you do? Not work, go out of town, etc.
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    Default Re: Do you fear losing money from house fees?

    Sounds like you need to get some confidence - or at least a tougher skin - and up your hustle. You have to go into the club every shift knowing that you're worth a G and that the customers are lucky to have you approach them and be given the option to spend money on you. You can't let the rejections hurt you, no matter what the girl they go with looks like. If everyone else is making money and you're not, it's not a "slow" month, but rather you're hustling the crowd wrong.

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    Default Re: Do you fear losing money from house fees?

    Yes I fear losing money to house fees. But, if the house fees arent in line with what you average at the club, then don't work there. For example, a 60 dollar house fee mandatory even if you made no private dances is not good, compared to a club that might take a percentage of what you earned. The solution is research the clubs that have good house fees.
    Also, there is no sense in complaining about being hot, that the ugly girls make all the money. ??
    I would say, 1.find a quality dog sitter for when you travel. Look in the phone book or on rover.com and 2. find a club with sensible house fees. 3. be thankful you are attractive with a good body.
    hope this helps
    What area are you in?

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    Any dancing job is always going to be hit or miss. You can either have a horrible night and lose money or you can have a great night and make a bunch of money. One thing that can help with this is developing regulars. Do you have any yet? Is there a way you can get a guy to come in continually to see you?

    It sounds to me like your focusing way too much on other people and what they are doing too be confident in yourself and have a good hustle. You really need to focus on yourself and your own hustle. Read through hustle hut. Worrying about what other girls are doing, unless you are learning things from them, is not going to bring you home money.

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    [when i worked full time] I don't touch my money unti lI've worked all my shifts that week, then count it up at my 'weekend', separate it for bills, saving, spending, and travel/fees. This way the money is there, i haven't had to withdraw cash to go to work or taken it from last night's earnings... if i did that i'd be wondering where it all went by the time my weekend came. I found it reduced worry about spending money to go to work, because it was 'already paid for', every thing i made the current week was just stacking up, and if i make nothing one night... it doesn't matter because it is the weekly total that mattered, which balanced out.


    Wow sorry for the changes of tense lol.

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    i cant relate to the post but i just want to say being "pretty and in shape" has nothing to do with it. its more about your attitude and how convincing you are. not everyone likes a pam anderson body either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pink_bunny View Post
    For example, a 60 dollar house fee mandatory even if you made no private dances is not good, compared to a club that might take a percentage of what you earned.
    Percentages are only good for low earners, because it ensures they always leave with something. The dancers who hustle well and consistently make money are way better off with paying a set fee so they don't get "punished" for making more money by having to give more of it to the house. The set fee should certainly be in line with earnings in the club though.

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    In my honest opinion the guys come in the club to get laid. They know they have a better chance with the average looking girls.
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    ginger, that is when HUSTLE come into play. its nothing but a game. they want something, we feed off of that want and tickle their fancy and manipulate/sell. we want $1million and they want sex. lets meet in the middle and settle for $400 per hour VIP topless dance. this is about engaging a guy, its way more than just a fit body- good looks are only a bonus.

    no offense, it seems to me that your head is just simply not in the game. you cant just be like "im hot, pay me." that is not how it works. this is a job, treat it like one. what guy on this earth DOESNT want sex and blowjobs?

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    I'm sure you're a perfectly nice girl and you could just be venting and pissed off atm but honestly it sounds like you kind of have a shitty attitude and that might be why you don't make anything. If you haven't figured it out yet, the bottom line in this industry is personal relationships. Guys can whack off in the comfort of their own home to whatever porn they want and they can order an escort that looks like any variation of a vic's secret angel. Strippers are like a hybrid of a good waitress, salesperson, and porn star. There are THREE components to us personality, selling skills, and looks. It doesn't matter how hot you are if you can't hold good conversations and sell to guys. If you're as hot as you say you are in no time you won't have any trouble convincing guys to dance with you instead of the other girls, read up on hustle hut and look for the thread "how to sell to guys who only want extras" or "how to work in extras heavy clubs" there's a very helpful thread out there for working in those kinds of clubs. And really try to be sweet and nice at work, always smile at the guys and act really really interested in them. Try to keep the conversation about them and with a sexy undertone.

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    Stop giving a shit about what other girls do.

    It was only when I learnt to focus on me and my hustle that I started to be happy with what I made and started to make good money.



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    Default Re: Do you fear losing money from house fees?

    I understand about losing money to house fees my club has a house fee and takes a percentage of the money i make from dances and rooms. Like on the weekends I have a $40 house fee and Im required to get 3 dances in the night and if i dont get them i have to pay $10 for every dance i dont get. so I go in on weekends owing $70 it sucks and lately my club has not been bringing in good clientele. so i completely get u

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    No, I don't fear losing money from house fees. I used to worry about that before, but not anymore. I KNOW I have to pay them, so I assume I'll make enough to cover them, and also take home plenty.

    If your gut feeling is to take time off and travel, and if you can afford to, do it. You might be burning out a little bit. Wait and see if you remember all the reasons why this job is what you want and love. And if those reasons don't come to you, then maybe it's time to try something else.
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    no, i dont worry at all..i've never gone home with nothing, or in the negative..ever. and i can tell you i don't have a "pam anderson body" , different guys like different types, and it's not even all about looks! maybe that's where you're problem lies. just because you have a great body doesnt mean you're a better stripper or that guys automatically will just choose you. i see so many gorgeous girls at my club not earning jack because they get lazy and think that they can rely on their great genetics.plenty of what i think of as less attractive women earn more , and that's because they are better at what they do i guess.. dont let it get to you down! =)

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    I have never been negative or zero my worst night is 400 (after tipout) and right now I am overweight.
    So maybe I am one of these girls you are complaining about.

    One of the biggest mistakes girls can make is getting into adult entertainment thinking, I'm a perfect ten, people have always told me I should model, I put my time in at the gym, I'm bound to be a top earner at the club. Being the most beautiful girl at the club does not entitle you to the most money at the club. It really doesn't entitle you to anything. It doesn't work that way.

    Maybe those girls are doing things (not sex related) you don't see. Maybe they are nice to their customers. Maybe they remember their customers or offer to go get a waitress. And just a thought, maybe the customers are taking more of a liking to other girls because you come off as a little full of yourself. Men like an ego boost at the club. They want a dancer to make them feel good about themselves. Not a dancer who's already in love with herself.

    There's a lot of good to this job it's not just about smut. Dancing at a nightclub is a very specific skill set and it's well worth developing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingersnap View Post
    In my honest opinion the guys come in the club to get laid. They know they have a better chance with the average looking girls. I work very hard at keeping in shape for this job, its not easy or fun. I feel I make more money when I look fatter. Its not easy to hustle guys when they want sex and blowjobs. There are very few men that come into stripclubs not wanting something for you like your phone number, dinner, sex etc. They always have a motive whether you are aware of it or not. There are some men who want just dances but most do not.
    I work in Detroit, one of the biggest extras cities in the nation. Half the girls there offer blowjobs and sex. At some of the clubs in Detroit I've worked at, I'd say 3 out of 4 girls do some type of extra. It's disgusting. Yes, it sucks having to be in that kind of environment and work around prostitutes, but that's not a good excuse for never/rarely making money. It may make making money tougher, but if you know how to hustle you'll make money. I make like 10 times my house fee in a night. I'm pretty and in very good shape. I'm also confident. I'm always at the top of the charts at the end of the night in terms of who gave the most dances. It's definitely not just because of my looks, although that helps too. My personality is enticing, and that's important: confidence, conversational skills, etc. You can't have low confidence and expect to make lots of money, nor can you constantly compare yourself to girls who make more than you. Walk into the club with a good attitude, know you're going to make money, and make it. It will get better over time if you don't count yourself out.

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    If you are in an extras-heavy club, you HAVE to work on your stripper game more than clubs where guys grab you for dances. I've had guys tell me that they want extras and know from looking at me that I'm too hot to do them. So, gingersnaps, there's some truth that what you're saying. HOWEVER, your "talk game" and dance ability will always overcome that. It's frustrating when it's slow, sure, but if you hustle and try your best to make your shift worth your time, you will do better on average than even the extras girls.
    For instance, I didn't realize I was sitting at a table that another girl considered her regular, and I got just as much money out of the guy as she would. I just dance, and she does extras! Her group is currently trying to convince people that I have to do extras as there is no way I can make money like that. LOL Fact is, a beautiful, conversationally-engaging, caring gal will always beat out gals like those. Even though guys want sex and blowjobs, men are more complicated than that.
    Men want to be fed (nurtured), efffed (sex/sensual contact), and to feel important. Since we don't have sex with them, we have to focus on nurturing those in need of it and making men feel important. As a matter of fact, I think making guys feel important is our biggest source of income!! Having a hot chick pay a man her full attention and act interested is huge for men with ego issues (most people have ego issues, btw).
    So, don't focus on the girls selling more than dances. You're selling something far more expensive and difficult-- you're selling men ego boosts. If your club isn't doing it for you, find another club!
    Good luck!

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    Wow, this is a GREAT thread! Thanks to everyone who replied to it! I hope it gets better, Ginger!


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    I know that girls I work with look at me and think wtf is her deal when its slow? They look at me realize Im older and weigh more than them and they wonder why I still do alright for myself...Its more about attitude..When u have a good attitude people gravitate towards u..Not when all ur doing is thinking ur the hottest girl n the bar..That really isnt a turn on for alot of guys. Guys just think those girls are stuck up bitches..

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