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    Default Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    So, my dilemma...
    There is a very strong possibility that I may not have to do this but in the case that I do, I would like some advice on the matter.
    I currently work on ImLive in the Fetish/BDSM section and have been signed up on the site for over 2 years but only starting camming "full time" (that's 25/hrs week for me) in the past few months. Even before then I had regulars and I've gained a reputation on the site as being American and actually having audio which is rare and also very much needed for a lot of the role playing guys request. Despite my best efforts, I cannot seem to manage over a $25-$30/hr rate average. My rate is 3.80/min (their rates are set as such, 1.98, 2.80, 3.80, 4.80, 5.80) and even picking the median rate I still get guys bitching and offer discount codes although I think I'm totally worth the higher rate but lots of studio (physical) girls offering the lowest rate make that a bit hard.

    It seems as if I've reached out to the regulars I'm going to get and the site's traffic is just getting exponentially shittier by the minute. The site has had tech issues left and right and they are making more and more rules to make it harder to actually get any sort of 100% conversion commission. I have a new job lined up soon working in the development of a cam site but until then, I'm reaching a point where I want to make the switch to the well loved SM, where I already have an account but do not use it frequently.

    My questions/concerns are as such:
    -Making sure I still have steady money coming in, how do you girls balance dedicating your 100% to a new site and making yourself known while still being there for your regulars at another? I know splitcamming is an option but since I talk aloud it's always been rather difficult to juggle.
    -Doing almost exclusively Fetish/BDSM is it even possible to make more than the amt I mentioned above? I've always felt somewhat personally stuck but hearing how well you ladies do and are able to charge, do you think sm would be a place I can make this happen? I do not want to do full nude or masturbation shows. Will guys still pay 4.99/5.99 minute?
    -As a Fetishist or to you ladies that do that sort of thing what's been the best way to catch guys' attention? I try with the kinky looking photos but it still doesn't seem to register.
    -How long does it take to really get into the groove there? The reason I've had issues with sm before is I've gotten on and even given it a few weeks (although only working a couple of days during those few weeks, admittedly, I've NEVER had an sm regular. I've felt so secure playing my American with audio card on imlive) but still had just absolutely dead rooms. SM does intimidate me (yeah, I said it) because there is WAAAY more competition.

    I know this is meaty but any help would be appreciated. This could also pertain to anyone else who wants to switch their primary cam site and ways to do it to get to a larger audience. I know it's easy for a lot of you ladies who can splitcam and multi task but I always feel like people can tell I'm not paying attention, etc and it's my personal thing to always give 100% in all my shows, even when I'm in free chat just showing who I am.

    Thanks very much.
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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    Well I don't really offer many fetish/BDSM shows so I can't help you there, but how did I switch from one site to another? When I tried to switch over from SM to xpeeps back in March I suffered through a few weeks of exhaustion and worked them both in different shifts. My SM schedule was 9a-2p and I kept that while adding 7p-10p on xpeeps at first. Then as I got more popular and started making more on xpeeps I extended my xpeeps hours and shortened my SM hours, so my schedule after a few weeks shifted to 9a-12p on SM, 6p-12a on xpeeps. I think if you just keep gradually cutting down on your current main site and continue letting your guys there know you won't be available for as many hours as they are used to they will adjust with you. At least that happened for me.

    In September I decided to quit SM and join another site but I was earning so little on SM that I just said F it, completely stopped logging in one day, and jumped right into my new site full time. My cam names are the same on both sites so a few regs have looked me up on twitter to find out where I'm camming now and I've had a few jump over to the new site with me.

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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    I enjoy fetish and dom work and tried that angle on SM when I first started soon realized that SM is not the best site for dominatrix stuff in my opinion. I redid my profile to be more bubbly, fun, doing regular shows like most of the other cam girls on SM and I have been doing a lot better with getting privates.

    I think dominatrix stuff works better on AW. Good luck and thanks for all your help Lola.

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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    I do well on SM offering fetish-oriented play. I think its important, as you mentioned, to have photos up of you in some type of BDSM gear. Also, without going off on a huge rant, I think that guys can tell who is genuinely into BDSM and not just faking a surface interest. Having a 'set' and lots of props and gear, as well as actually being interested in many fetishes/kinks are all things that work in your favor.

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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    I would try to split the hours if you can between the two sites at first to give yourself a chance to get a feel for SM and make sure you like it. I went from ImLive to SM and having to constantly be in free chat was big change for me. It seems to me SM used to have more fetish traffic, but it could be that now more girls are willing to accommodate fetish needs. Now having said all that I think that because you have consistent schedule you will probably do really well there. Also if you can find a way to contact your ImLive regs off site, and give them your cammodels link it will be a % for you.
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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    I work SM and into fetish (lingerie, shoes, nylons, other soft stuff) but i find it difficult to get these guys to pay when they can see me in freechat for free. They will always ask to see this and that before pvt, if i show them they wont join pvt so i always have to ask them to join in to see, it's a hard work cause they come up with things like: "oh, why to pay to JUST see ur feet? they are feet not pussy" and they go on and on about all the rest, if it's shoes, panties, nylons, whatever. what u offering would work better on a pay site where freechat is not mandatory cause really, on SM they take advantage of the fact they can see u for free and also see what u wearing. guess u not doing FLC on imlive, right?
    Ok, u can try SM and see how it works then decide for urself it it's worth. Good luck!

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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    See for me, I see doing fetishes and doing dominatrix stuff as two separate categories, two different things. On SM I still get guys who are into fetishes like stocking, feet, role play fetishes. What I'm saying that I noticed the dominatrix (I'm going to dominate you and make you say and do things for MY pleasure) doesn't work very well on SM in my opinion and experience as the custies on SM still want you t"'show ass bb, turn around bb, you do anal bb". I used to wonder are these guys even reading my (back then strictly dom oriented) profile, they read it but SM just doesn't really cater to that dominate me kind of crowd, so most of them just still want the usual stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by space_cowgirl View Post
    I do well on SM offering fetish-oriented play. I think its important, as you mentioned, to have photos up of you in some type of BDSM gear. Also, without going off on a huge rant, I think that guys can tell who is genuinely into BDSM and not just faking a surface interest. Having a 'set' and lots of props and gear, as well as actually being interested in many fetishes/kinks are all things that work in your favor.

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    Default Re: Switching around my Primary cam site, How do you transition?

    Oh wow, thank you. Things have picked up a bit and I've been working a lot more so after I'm done camming I'm kinda just sick of looking at a computer.
    Interestingly enough, when I mention this a thread about ImLive gets started and most of my issues for wanting to leave are mentioned in the other thread also. Mostly it's the lack of traffic and the shitty site glitches that have happened since they tried "revamping" the site. Pffft.

    I do have an SM account. It needs to be updated with new photos and I'd like a photo that stays static instead of changing on the site when I'm broadcasting to how I look at that moment. It always catches me at a REALLY unattractive time. Eh...

    I can go either way with Fetish or Domination...the whole thing being I offer Kink and not mainstream or vanilla shows. Because of that I know I can charge a bit more with supply/demand existing but it's just making sure guys know I'm there. I'm not entirely sure if I want to tell my regulars from ImLive that I'm moving to sm because I have a better idea in mind for that depending on how things go. My ImLive regulars are all about long shows so I have a plan...

    Camming for more than 6 hours could be REALLY taxing for me but I think I can do it with minimal involvement on the imlive free video chat. I think with the next two pay periods I will be financially okay to make a slight transition without hurting too badly which is what I'm worried about since sm checks are three weeks behind.

    I do have a clips4sale store which is kinda "ehh". It's never done that well for me. What I am looking into is extralunchmoney for some ideas of how to get regulars connecting with me in another fashion. We will see how that goes.

    thank you everyone!

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedprincess View Post
    Lola, first off I absolutely adore you! I hadn't really seen you post in a bit, and I was wondering if things had picked up at all since the last time we chatted.

    You can definitely make more than $20-$30/hr as fetish. Just being fetish doesn't put an arbitrary cap on your earnings imo. I say just close your eyes and JUMP! You definitely want to try Streamate (if you open a new account, you can get the new model tag which helps you pick up business). Avoid the non-nude tag IMO as it takes you out of all the fetish and other categories.

    If you have any regulars, let them know that you're changing sites and pick a username close to your current if you want people to find you. E-mail support right off the bat to get your per minute caps raised up, so you can price shows to what you want and not be stuck with low per minute prices. Don't worry so much about the competition amount. You're a unique product. No one else is you and can do what you do. If they want it, they'll pay.

    We have some amazing fetish girls on here, and I hope they chime in too!

    PS: fetish does REALLY well on clips4sale. If you don't have a c4s store, start filming clips and open one. Two points for passive income!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    hey come up with things like: "oh, why to pay to JUST see ur feet? they are feet not pussy" and they go on and on about all the rest, !
    I tell then yeah put you have a foot fetish, so you asking to see my feet is like a reg guy asking to see my pussy.

    I did very well doing non nude domme and tease shows with some toys if they asked nicely and I was in the mood... But you have to make sure you keep up that persona you can go back and forth between domme and girl next door... oh and I think keep a schedule made more because they guys that like you will find you and will want to keep playing with you ....

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    @Lola if you are in the US you can ask them to take you off the three week delay, and you won't have to week.
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