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MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
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http://www.madlady.co.uk/studded-bra.html
http://www.karmaloop.com/product/The...-Silver/292967
thou I see no E cup
I might craft a bra like this once I'll have time. I like it so much!
LOL - I had to look at what I was wearing. . . It was bit expensive for where I got it. New York Apparel in the Haight! If you don't know of it yet - it is the ONLY place to get stockings for camming they have them for like 2 bucks sometimes. I wanna say that bra was $30. They are awesome and give a sex-worker discount.
It might be in an E-cup. Some were HUGE! If it is too small - a little bubble boob is alright in my book.
Wanna say thanks to all those with positive feedback. I have had alot of really negative shit thrown at me from other girls in SF - first time I walked into Diva's I had a crazy threaten to cut my face! The Lusty didn't clock me and I had a very embarrassing experience there. I have also gotten a lot of bs from gg's - I don't wanna sound arrogant, but I threaten them I think. Which is funny - because I am a fucking femme tranny-dyke who likes to top other femmes, and the girls I will try and hit on will be fucking catty sometimes. quite a trip.
LOL - I had to look at what I was wearing. . . It was bit expensive for where I got it. New York Apparel in the Haight! If you don't know of it yet - it is the ONLY place to get stockings for camming they have them for like 2 bucks sometimes. I wanna say that bra was $30. They are awesome and give a sex-worker discount.
It might be in an E-cup. Some were HUGE! If it is too small - a little bubble boob is alright in my book.
Wanna say thanks to all those with positive feedback. I have had alot of really negative shit thrown at me from other girls in SF - first time I walked into Diva's I had a crazy threaten to cut my face! The Lusty didn't clock me and I had a very embarrassing experience there. I have also gotten a lot of bs from gg's - I don't wanna sound arrogant, but I threaten them I think. Which is funny - because I am a fucking femme tranny-dyke who likes to top other femmes, and the girls I will try and hit on will be fucking catty sometimes.quite a trip.





Actually, since you were advertising for someone to come to your space and PAY you, no- I didn't expect to see a cam model, nor did I expect to see girating, bending over, or BAWLS on youtube. Notice how I wasn't making any jabs, just stating what I saw, (which was your sack) and notice how I said "no offense". I would've said the same thing if it were a boob, or a pussy lip. It had nothing to do with taking jabs at trans people. You mentioned cleanliness in your video, and others in the forum did as well and once I saw it in "action" it reminded me that yes, if someone was to buy a cam space, cleanliness is def key pussy or bawls honey. I'm a lover of all and couldn't care less who or what you are.
However, you risk all sorts of things when you post online. Of course, it was my fault for clicking the video, but if I were to professionally sell space to someone, especially a cam space, I wouldn't necessarily have to dress provocatively to get my point across or spread my legs. If a girl was selling me cam space an was flashing her lips or dildoing on the couch that someone else would be using, I'd rethink cleanliness again lol.
Each person interested in the space knows what will be going on in that room. No need for sack exposure. I wasn't expecting a free flash but okay. I'm not a cruel person and I feel that you took what I said out of context, or perhaps, you intentionally wanted everyone to see your sack. Freudian ball slip >.< Okay, I'll stop now, I just think it's hilarious that you took it to another level when it wasn't meant to be cruel. I was just stating a fact and got a giggle out of it. My point being, I felt like it was a marketing ploy for customers more than a professional renting out their cam space to other professionals.
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Daaang, $100 for a 6-8 hour block is standard for studios???? Holy hell that is a lot, my rent is only $14/day. Plus utilities but STILL! Goodness gracious how do new girls ever manage to make that and still have enough left over to make a decent wage? Seriously, how does the average girl do it?
I like Roast's idea of maybe setting a flat rate but then cutting models a discount if they come in for many shifts throughout the week. As a new girl I'd be super bummed if I ended up not making much after the studio fee but of course one has to be consistent to build up to a good hourly. A discounted rate for putting in a certain number of hours might give them an incentive to keep at it until they start making a decent return.
No - Stop. No offense - I don't like you. You are clumsy with you words and rude. I don't have the time or the energy for you. Don't write apologies and then be critical of the person you are apologizing to. I am not impressed nor do I care about your opinions about my "sack"
You may not be cruel but you are belligerent and clumsy
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I ws going to say, "Shes replying to Courtney" then I was like wait what, and scrolled up and saw..so I was going to say..."shes replying to Kortney", then had a senile moment and thought..wait no thats the same name! I mean Courtney!!! no Kortney!
Then I gave up and decided to just post my trainwreck thoughtand to keep it simple...she wasnt replying to you
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You don't have to like me sweetie. I didn't like seeing your sack either, but I can't erase that out of my mind now can I? Just make sure the next time you "advertise" for a room, be more professional. Sack or no sack. It was a harmless joke, it's okay. You don't have to be so over the top. K? And obviously if you didn't care, you wouldn't have cared to respond. Now I'll stop before I "stumble" over my words as I'm SUPER clumsy *tosses hair back*





What is the purpose of derailing this thread with drama? There wasn't a sack ... let's move on.
OOOOOH thank you BlkSharpie! I didn't even notice that Kortney had posted at the same time as me, I was about to get a bit butt hurt because I really am trying to offer some legitimate ideas to the OP that will help her rent her camming space in a way that's beneficial both to her and her... tenants? And then I thought, why doesn't she like meee????? But now I see.
So I know I'm not a mod or anything but once again, WHY is it so important what she's showing in the video? As long as viewers can see the space, which she did a good job of showng every angle of it. Personal attacks don't do anyone any good![]()
It is an interesting situation - I have a space I want to share it. I really really don't like how negative everyone is being. Any Models who want to collaborate and make some cool things happen? I have this space and I am looking to do another a 3 bedroom or something. If we all want to stop saying how much we hate how little we get paid - why don't we work to find solutions?
I have a space with a bunch of internet security folks(they are hackers but work in security) the bandwidth here is outrageous. we have other fun spaces to use and a wonderful group of people around us that want to be helpful. We have a server with enough bandwidth to do an entire camming site here. That IS my goal. But jesus is anyone actually interested in doing something other than just putting a camera in front of their bed?
I have a friend that is going to help me with the lightning he does the lightning at the armory - I am shoot there for tspussyhunters in january. I want to ride the wave of that shoot and create a camming site that is owned by cam-models. What streamate is from a developer's perspective is laughably easy. there is 0 reason we can't make that website actually let models link their social networks, take home more than half their earning etc. blah blah blah. I have been working on a payment solution using bit-coins that is completely free of fees(I am not sure if it will work yet)I have this space and a chance to do more if I can get people on board.
at the very least stop being sooooo negative it is painful to listen to. Things are shitty and expensive but there are awesome possibilities in SF still with the influx of the tech industry, and all of its money. I landed in it, it would be criminal for me not to try and build a site.
I kinda thought the leg spreading (and subsequent flashing) and wall grinding was a bit unnecessary and unexpected as well and as a viewer that turned me off, but whatever. I'm not renting the place, but maybe someone else will so do you booboo.
I for one do not live in SF so I would have no need to rent out your space, but I am VERY curious to hear more about your new site idea.





Ive been following this thread with interest... I do think that the rate is too high, but backtracking to how escorts set rates (please forgive me...I can relate damn near everything to escorting nowadays) the higher your rate, the more you get per date, but the less dates youll get with fewer repeats...the lower your rate, the less you get per date, but the more dates youll get, with more repeats.
So putting that in terms for this...it will not hurt as much as you may think to charge less, because youll be able to attract more ladies to rent from you, and they will be likely to keep coming back....so in the end, even if you charge less, youll end up making more.
I agree with the sheets, to ask girls to bring / supply their own. Also, with the furry background, with something like that an idea would be to have several, in different shades/textures to swap it out with. That way if a girl isnt into furry (like me...its a texture thing lol) or if you dont have much time between girls shifts, you can put up a fresh / different panel and then have time to wash that one.
Also, not sure if I missed it in the video (I skipped through some parts..sorry!) but what is the bathroom situation? Like if a girl needs to use the bathroom, or wash her toys, is it private without having to be in a hallway where others are? Or if she needs to quickly eat/drink something or wants to take a smoke break...like what are the off camera options?
On that note too...keep in mind that if a lady were to rent a hotel room to use for cam...the bathroom is right there in the room, so not only does she have a space with privacy, but also a new space for shows, like a shower cam and such. plus likely a fridge in the room to keep some food and drink etc. On top of that, she would get that room for at least 21 hrs (3p checkin to noon check out) and have a lot of room to stretch, walk around, take a break etc. Just some things to keep in mind while considering rates to amenities for comparison to stay competitive.
But, on the other hand, you are offering a lot...with having all the equipment right there for a lady to use, so its saves the cost of buying a laptop, cam, and decorating a sexy time area to work out of, so there is a benefit/tradeoff there.
Anyway, those are my initial thoughtsI think its a good idea, and one that will probably really help ladies out...but just keep in mind what the average girl earns..esp if shes new, she may not see her first paycheck for 2wks, so if shes working 3x a week for 2 wks, thats $300 she would have to come up with before getting that first paycheck...and thats if she is even able to earn that that much and more to make it worth it...so there is an initial investment cost involved here too.
Brainstorming this even more, I imagine another idea would be to set up a studio on SM and MFC, and instead of charging the ladies a flat rate, you charge them a percentage through the online studio, and it would cover the cost of your physical studio and there would be no issues as far as collecting payment since it would all be automatic. Of course..the risk with that is a girl might work her shift and not make any money at all...but then it just may balance out with the girls who are power horses, and make mad money every shift. And if you find a girl constantly does not bring in money or improve her earnings, and its losing you money to let her work in your studio, let her go or offer her only shifts where other girls arent working.
Just ideas that Im throwing out there...I know not the logistics![]()
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all the resources are right here. Server people who are willing to do skill trades for website's that are like famous hackers.
I changed the price. I am just going to do $20x3hr
There is an upstairs bathroom - I have 2 robes. there is also a large bathroom with a shower and an anal spray thingy form mister s downstairs(getyour own nozzle). There is a kitchen an a fridge downstairs that anyone is free to use. Everyone will have a dresser door and a cubby. I have 12 cubbies. Everyone will need theere own sheets and there is plastic on the mattress.![]()
You have good ideas - Smoking is the downside - is is kidda right by civic center bart. There is some crazy - it wouldn't be bad at all - for the fact you will be likely wearing a skimpy robe.
I have an old laptop that ppl can use(works okay) - but they can't use my new machine. prolly would best that if they brought there own. yeah - I have a good 1080p camera that can stay. I want to do another with a swiveling arm that will be wireless.
I was like homeless and landed in a cummunal hacker space in SOMA somehow - lol. I really think two things are really in our favor timing wise:
1. cam-modeling is big, and getting bigger. strip clubs will always exist, but the market of 40 year old guys are staying at home rather than using peepshows or jack shacks
2. SM MFC and companies like them are only going to get bigger. There is a market for ethical work-owned cam sites right now. problem is nobody has money. It think it cam be done still now though.





Very cool...all good updatesIm super interested in how things work out.
Please be sure to keep us updated!!! Who knows...something this might become my next venture after escorting hehe!
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