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    IQ myth debunked by Canadian researchers
    Human intelligence consists of different components, researchers say

    An individual's IQ score — long-held as the standard measure of human intelligence — is not a valid way of assessing brainpower, say Canadian researchers.

    A team from Western University is debunking the concept of general intelligence, saying that there is no single component that can account for how a person performs various mental and cognitive tasks.

    Instead, human intelligence is made up of multiple and distinct components, each of which must be looked at independently.

    'We have shown categorically that you cannot sum up the difference between people in terms of one number.'—Adrian M. Owen, project senior investigator

    The study, published today in the journal Neuron, included the largest online intelligence survey on record, which recruited more than 100,000 participants.

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    i have long been against the whole traditional IQ tests..i know so many people who are very intelligent who believed they were stupid because of that damn test

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    Im probably the opposite Simone I have a high iq, but I sure can do some stupid things....

    I am thankful for it though, that there is *something* in place, cause for years kiddos school kept saying she was a problem child cause she wouldnt pay attention in class. And for years I kept telling them it was because she was bored with the work, not cause she has add or need meds like they were trying to say was the issue. They strongly disagreed saying if she cant even handle normal classwork, she will never be able to handle more intensive classwork.

    Finally a teacher recommended her for an iq test, which got her placed in the gifted honours program, and immediately she started doing better, her grades went up, and though shes always liked school, she now loves it. With her, the more challenged she is, the more interested she is...the easier it is, the more she feels like its not worth her time. Yeah, I drilled it into her to show her teachers what she can do, and do the work anyway, but no dice.. Now that shes older, she will speak up more...

    But anyway..I thikn even though the iq test may not be wholly accurate, its still something, cause without it a lot of kids who should be in certain programs wouldnt be, based off someones opinion more than the students capability. As for the opposite, I dont know. I can say Ive heard of people call themselves stupid because of social reasons, being around people more intelligent and knowing they dont process things as easily... Like when I was in hs, I was the "dunce" in my group of friends cause I only had a 3.8gpa...most of my friends had 4.0+ one of them had a 4.7. It was a geek joke between us though, obviously just because someone is smarter than me doesnt mean Im stupid, I never felt that way...if it mattered I guess I could have hung out with non-geeks and be the smartest one in the group, but stuff like that didnt matter to me.

    Still, I can understand feeling intellectually inadequate while around somoene who is far more andvanced, but to be intelligent and then say and really believe they are stupid solely based on an IQ test is interesting. Id think if someone did that, it says more about their self-esteem/mental state than iq/intellectual capabilities.
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    when i took the test as a younger child i came out stupid because i just didn't do well under pressure..took it again as an adult and got a very high score..same for my father who was told " there isn't a right answer, just put whatever you think is right" so he never took it seriously and was branded as a retard for the rest of his childhood ( that was the 60s though) ..my friend would also probably flunk but she's very adept socially and has amazing coordination ..a lot of people think that if you're good at sports that is just your body doing the work but quite the opposite..just makes me mad that some gifted people are made to feel stupid because of a test lol. but that's good about your daughter! my friends' son is having problems in school but i know that its just because he's bored and he's way too intelligent for the work he's being assigned. they want to put him in special ED just because he isn't a cookie cutter child like they want him to be..very sad

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    That really sucks about the test..Someone must have pressured you about what an IQ test means, and what it would mean if you didnt do well on it...thats really not fair to you at all, cuase yeah, of course thats going to screw with you and the results. and well, your dad didnt take the test seriously so the results couldnt have been a reflection on him anyway...other than that he didnt take it seriously hehe!

    Your friends son should really fight to get him tested though, dont put pressure on him or tell him what it would mean if he does well or anyting like that, I mean...nothing anyone says toa person will encourage them to be more intelligent, know what I mean? Its just a matter of seeing what level hes at...but *fight for it* I wish that I had when kiddo was younger, cause it would have saved her a lot of stressful years...cause her school was doing the exact same thing. And heres the thing, schools get money for each special needs child that they have, so its to their benefit to push kids in that direction. If a kid isnt "normal" they want to stick them in special ed to make more money off of them...they dont get money for getting kids into advanced or gifted classses though, so its up to a parent to fight hard to make sure their kids end up in the right place. It just so happened that when kiddo was in middle school, a teacher finally noticed that kiddo had smarts to her and recommended her...I got lucky cause I had already given up after so many years of saying kiddo dooesnt have add. Def suggest to your friend to fight for her sons right to a proper education.

    I see what youre saying about the sports...the same can be said for someone who is artistically / musically gifted...but I have to say, I dont think that being physically gifted or artistically gifted equals being intellectually gifted. A person could be both, but one does not assume the other, know what I mean?
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    When I was younger I took a test because I would get bored with school. Turned out I have a genius IQ and the class work was way too easy for me. I was put in more challenging classes. The thing is though one might have a high IQ doesn't mean they have equal smarts in everything. My writing and reading ability is way off the map (I was always several years above my age)but my math skills aren't as high (though oddly are higher than I though).

    However, I will say though that I might have a High IQ in terms of intelligence I don't always have common sense smart and have done a lot of stupid things. I also am somewhat shy and quiet and don't often show my intelligence because I don't talk all that much in groups, especially if I don't know that person. Contrary to popular belief that athletes are stupid, I lettered in several sports in high school and ironically most of the top students were all athletes. The valedictorian actually got both a volleyball and an academic scholarship.

    The one thing though that makes me wonder about this study is I have seen this idea to get rid of these tests and put everyone together. I think that is wrong because it isn't fair to put a student with above average intelligence with students with below. As someone who dealt with this several times, it's not fair to anyone. The smarter kids just end up finishing the assignments early while the other kids struggle. The fact is not everyone is the same when it comes to intelligence.

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    BLK sharpie wow, i didn't know that about schools..i was homeschooled until i was 15 and then i just took the GED..stories like that make me nervous about sending my son to school next year :/
    yeah, some people are definitely smarter than others no question..although i was always off the charts in reading, writing, verbal skills but i had no clue what i was doing in math. i do notice a lot of incredibly intelligent people often can't function in day to day life..i've had to hold my moms hand since i was a teenager when it comes to driving, shopping, any real life stuff but she's got like 3 college degrees.i guess nobody is good at everything! well, nobody that i've known anyways ..this thread makes me want to take an IQ test again haha

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    i took it when younger and scored high.

    i wonder how all the alcohol and drugs since then has affected it.....
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    When I was in high school I got the average college IQ of like 118 or something. Once I learned how to answer the questions better I was like genius at 135-140. The tests can be learned. They are fairly accurate, but experience counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i have long been against the whole traditional IQ tests..i know so many people who are very intelligent who believed they were stupid because of that damn test
    Truth. I also knew a guy who had an IQ of 186. I believe he still lives in his parents basement. Brilliant yes, unable to do much in the "real world" no. A high IQ is a specific type of intelligence sure, but as the article does a nice job of explaining, it's far more complex than any single number or test could can really quantify.
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    I took the test in the beginning of high school.. eight times I think.. My average score for the test was 173.. they kept making me take it again cause they thought I was cheating. Even after they changed it out, reworded the questions, and moved them around I was still in the 170 to 180 range. They still treated me like my IQ was 50 for the rest of years I was in.

    I retook it again about a year ago and it says I'm 197. I'm mostly a crafty person, I'm bad with social skills and alot of today's problem solving tactics. I really think the test is bad to have in schools.. I mean if you look at my school the ones that get the best treatment is the one who kicks a ball around.. Not the ones who hit the books.

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    My sister has a high IQ but she's an idiot.

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    Its actually *very* common for someone with a very high iq and of high intelligence to lack common sense, street smarts and have social issues and as luck would have it, contrary to popular belief, a lot of people who end up in prison are incredibly intelligent. If you look at info on some of the brilliant minds in history, their personal lives were a complete mess...they were brilliant when it comes to their field, but when it came to day to day living...things that seem so simple and common sense to other people, arent to them. Theres a lot of truth in how geeks are protrayed as being detached from social norms and unable to understand stuff thats basic to everyone else.

    I also had to take tests over and again too...because I scored just as high in reading/writing/comprehension as I did in science/math. Neverminding that Im a girl and generally girls score lower than boys do in math / science, and boys score lower than girls in reading/writing...its just rare that someone can excel in both since the comprehension comes from different sides of the brain, and one side of the brain is usually more dominant than the other.Kiddo is the same way as I am...cept that Im super relieved that she has a lot more common sense / street smarts than I do. I heard way too many times growing up, how can someone so smart be so stupid. So if Im not sure, I say nothing... Just super grateful kiddo isnt like that.

    Then again, it just strengthens my argument that shes an alien from out of space...

    As for cheating an IQ test, yeah of course any test can be cheated. If you "study" for it, know what answers your "supposed" to give as opposed to choosing the answers that seem right to you, then youll be able to trick it into giving you a higher score. But that doent change anyones ability to process information. At the end of the day, its just a test...I find it useful for placement, but I dont think much of it when it comes to bragging rights. Like i said, I have no idea what my IQ score is, or my ACT or my ASVAB. All I know is at the time i took the tests, it served its purpose to get me where I should be placed. I could care less how I compare to anyone else. There are people who I know arent as intelligent as me, but have taught me so much and are super interesting and cool to be around, and I know people more intelligent than me who are annoying as hell and have nothing to say that I care to hear about.

    BTW, speaking of cheating The school psychologist and the person giving her the test called me into a meeting to tell me kiddos results, she was in the waiting room, and when I went out there to leave, she was like..did I do good? And me..not realizing the psychologist had followed me out, told her..yeah way too good, I think you cheated. And she was all..omg no I didnt! and I said, well...they told me you scored very well, Iiii dont know. And she was like nooo I didnt cheat! I didnt even know what was going to be on the test!!! and I told her..see...thats how smart you are, you figured out how to cheat on a test without even knowing what would be on it. Thats when I heard the psephologist laughing, and I kind of freaked out thinking, oh man she must think Im fucking crazy lol

    Even now, when kiddo says something too smart for her own good, and Im arguing with her knowing full well shes right and im wrong, I tell her, what do you know! you cheated on your IQ test! Tahts about the point she figures its useless trying to reason with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    when i took the test as a younger child i came out stupid because i just didn't do well under pressure..took it again as an adult and got a very high score..same for my father who was told " there isn't a right answer, just put whatever you think is right" so he never took it seriously and was branded as a retard for the rest of his childhood ( that was the 60s though) ..my friend would also probably flunk but she's very adept socially and has amazing coordination ..a lot of people think that if you're good at sports that is just your body doing the work but quite the opposite..just makes me mad that some gifted people are made to feel stupid because of a test lol. but that's good about your daughter! my friends' son is having problems in school but i know that its just because he's bored and he's way too intelligent for the work he's being assigned. they want to put him in special ED just because he isn't a cookie cutter child like they want him to be..very sad
    Public schools are horrible for this and I know if I have kids they will either be homeschooled or go to private schools because of the cookie cutter one size fits all education in public schools. Kids who are more creative especially often get labeled special education when they are not. When I was in grade school I had a horrible math teacher who used to yell at me when I got an answer wrong so I got this severe math anxiety and ended up struggling with math. Years later while attending college I had to take a math test and found out in fact I wasn't as bad in math as I thought. I was very lucky because in college I got a wonderful math teacher who would tell me that many people hate math because of anxiety. I ended up getting a B in the class which was the first time I ever got a B in math I am sure. I was just as proud of getting that B as I was of the fact that my 6 other classes were all A's.

    I still have issues about what happened to me in grade school, such as teachers trying to hold me back because I was very shy, severe bullying by students and teachers and the whole testing issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Public schools are horrible for this and I know if I have kids they will either be homeschooled or go to private schools because of the cookie cutter one size fits all education in public schools. Kids who are more creative especially often get labeled special education when they are not. When I was in grade school I had a horrible math teacher who used to yell at me when I got an answer wrong so I got this severe math anxiety and ended up struggling with math. Years later while attending college I had to take a math test and found out in fact I wasn't as bad in math as I thought. I was very lucky because in college I got a wonderful math teacher who would tell me that many people hate math because of anxiety. I ended up getting a B in the class which was the first time I ever got a B in math I am sure. I was just as proud of getting that B as I was of the fact that my 6 other classes were all A's.
    nice! good for you for getting over that anxiety, i know i still have it..the thought of college to this day makes me want to grab a paper bag lol. yeah i was home schooled myself ( it was a disaster in my situation but I'm sure you'd be a better teacher than my dad!) , but from what I'm hearing the school systems really do suck with that. and its so fuckn sad when bright, sweet talented kids get told they are stupid because they are different, and the schools don't want to be bothered! I'm praying my friend doesn't just go with whatever the teachers are feeding her. I'm thinking about private school for my own..

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    i always though IQ tests were more a meaurement of education. The fact that you can "study up" and improve your IQ score is a good indication of that. Also IQ is really relative, I mean you can be smart as all shit but if it isn't relative to your environment then it's not much good is it? For example, if you're stranded in the desert then the creative type who has a good sense of observation (to see what the desert critters are doing to stay alive) will probably last longer than the academic guru who knows the nomaclature of the plants and the geographical make-up of the soil.

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    nice! good for you for getting over that anxiety, i know i still have it..the thought of college to this day makes me want to grab a paper bag lol. yeah i was home schooled myself ( it was a disaster in my situation but I'm sure you'd be a better teacher than my dad!) , but from what I'm hearing the school systems really do suck with that. and its so fuckn sad when bright, sweet talented kids get told they are stupid because they are different, and the schools don't want to be bothered! I'm praying my friend doesn't just go with whatever the teachers are feeding her. I'm thinking about private school for my own..
    It took me a while but getting over it was so important. I think having a wonderful math teacher who didn't pressure and understand being art students were probably weren't going to be great at math (this was an art college). I'm of the belief that homeschooling can be good if the parents are college educated but I'm not sure all parents doing it are and that concerns me. Oddly, I am going back to become a teacher so I can teach in private or religious schools because I don't trust public. I have heard they have gotten worse about this one size fits all mentality and it bothers me because it strikes me as brainwashing at an early age.

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    @Kelly, dont swear off public schools...there are crappy ones, and there are good ones. Also, a school that is "awesome" may not fit the specific intellectual needs of your child, while one that is "crappy" might. Like right now, kiddo is going to what is one of the worst schools, if she was a regular student taking the standard classes she would be screwed, but they have an amazing IB and gifted program. Paying for education doesnt necessarily make it better. Now, I will say though, something I strongly recommend is montessori....its very non traditional learning, not for all kids, but I was floored by their methods of self learning/self advancement and think its worth a shot. Kiddo went to montessori for her first 2 years of school, and by the time she finished 1st grade, she was reading on a middle school level, was doing basic algebra.

    The kids are allowed to move at their level....so yeah there were kids in her class that were still strugging through reading or doing basic math, and there were kids in her class at higher levels than she was. The whole point was to give kids thier coursework, and if it came easy to them, and they showed interest in something more advanced, instead of saying no you have to stay at this level with everyone else, they gave them that opportunity to be at their own level. If a kid showed interest in learning something, they taught it to them.

    We did look around at several regular private schools and was not impressed...they wouldnt have done anything for kiddo that public schools would have, and there were some public schools that rated higher than the private schools did. But yeah, the key here is to do your research, and find the right school for your child...whether its private or public doesnt mean as much as whether or not they are the right fit for your child.
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    i always though IQ tests were more a meaurement of education. The fact that you can "study up" and improve your IQ score is a good indication of that. Also IQ is really relative, I mean you can be smart as all shit but if it isn't relative to your environment then it's not much good is it? For example, if you're stranded in the desert then the creative type who has a good sense of observation (to see what the desert critters are doing to stay alive) will probably last longer than the academic guru who knows the nomaclature of the plants and the geographical make-up of the soil.
    No its not a test of education....the stuff thats on the tests isnt something that can be taught actually. Being able to study what answer youre supposed to give its just memorization and well...cheating. Yeah, its possible to cheat at anything. but doesnt change the actual purpose of the test, which is to see how your mind is able to process information.

    To give you an idea, the way I described it to kiddo to help her understand...is that the IQ test is like a bunch of logic puzzles. Not necessasrily stuff you can solve and work out like a math problem, or something you can learn...its to see how your brain makes sense of the information. So it really doesnt matter what environment someone is, whether they have a phd or a 3rd grade education.

    For a really lame example There could be say...a picture shape of a circle with a star inside of it, with instructions to pick its opposite. a) a picture of a circle with a star inside of it b) a square with a circle inside of it c) a star with a circle inside of it d) a star with a star inside of it.

    You cant "learn" something like that...either it makes sense to you that the opposite of a circle with a star in it, is a star with a circle in it....or it doesnt. Yeah you can cheat, if you know whats going to be on the test that if that question is asked, put down c, but that doesnt mean you actually understand why the answer should be c..youre not any more or less intelligent for having given the correct answer, no more than anyone is more or less educated for being able to genuinely choose the correct answer.

    Thats why its possible to test a childs IQ who hasnt much education at all...cause its not based on that...only on how your brain processes information.

    I genuinely dont understand the purpose of cheating on an IQ test though...a person who does that is only cheating themselves really. If they are really interested in knowing what their IQ is, just take the test and see your results. If you cheat on the test, youll never know what your actual IQ is. And it really doesnt take smarts to cheat...like I said, thats just memorization..all it proves is you have a good memory, which has no reflect on intellect.

    Neverminding, I think I would feel more inadequate to pretend I have a certain IQ, and be in a class or around people who by my "cheated IQ" I should be on their level, but completely lost and cant understand what any of them are talking about. I can also almost always spot when someone is faking or lying about their IQ. The people who talk about it and find a way to work their IQ into conversation all the time, usually dont actually have it...neverminding the way they talk give them away too. Ive talked to college educated people who make me feel like my IQ dropped a couple points just having to hear them,..on the other hand, I still remember talking to a guy who had dropped out of school, and it was one of the most stimulating convos Id had...he was brilliant.

    So faking it does nothing for anyone.
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    @Kelly, dont swear off public schools...there are crappy ones, and there are good ones. Also, a school that is "awesome" may not fit the specific intellectual needs of your child, while one that is "crappy" might. Like right now, kiddo is going to what is one of the worst schools, if she was a regular student taking the standard classes she would be screwed, but they have an amazing IB and gifted program. Paying for education doesnt necessarily make it better. Now, I will say though, something I strongly recommend is montessori....its very non traditional learning, not for all kids, but I was floored by their methods of self learning/self advancement and think its worth a shot. Kiddo went to montessori for her first 2 years of school, and by the time she finished 1st grade, she was reading on a middle school level, was doing basic algebra.

    The kids are allowed to move at their level....so yeah there were kids in her class that were still strugging through reading or doing basic math, and there were kids in her class at higher levels than she was. The whole point was to give kids thier coursework, and if it came easy to them, and they showed interest in something more advanced, instead of saying no you have to stay at this level with everyone else, they gave them that opportunity to be at their own level. If a kid showed interest in learning something, they taught it to them.

    We did look around at several regular private schools and was not impressed...they wouldnt have done anything for kiddo that public schools would have, and there were some public schools that rated higher than the private schools did. But yeah, the key here is to do your research, and find the right school for your child...whether its private or public doesnt mean as much as whether or not they are the right fit for your child.
    I subbed at a Montessori school and I recommend those. At this school kids went at their own pace which meant some were reading advanced and some were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    No its not a test of education....the stuff thats on the tests isnt something that can be taught actually. Being able to study what answer youre supposed to give its just memorization and well...cheating. Yeah, its possible to cheat at anything. but doesnt change the actual purpose of the test, which is to see how your mind is able to process information.

    To give you an idea, the way I described it to kiddo to help her understand...is that the IQ test is like a bunch of logic puzzles. Not necessasrily stuff you can solve and work out like a math problem, or something you can learn...its to see how your brain makes sense of the information. So it really doesnt matter what environment someone is, whether they have a phd or a 3rd grade education.

    For a really lame example There could be say...a picture shape of a circle with a star inside of it, with instructions to pick its opposite. a) a picture of a circle with a star inside of it b) a square with a circle inside of it c) a star with a circle inside of it d) a star with a star inside of it.

    You cant "learn" something like that...either it makes sense to you that the opposite of a circle with a star in it, is a star with a circle in it....or it doesnt. Yeah you can cheat, if you know whats going to be on the test that if that question is asked, put down c, but that doesnt mean you actually understand why the answer should be c..youre not any more or less intelligent for having given the correct answer, no more than anyone is more or less educated for being able to genuinely choose the correct answer.

    Thats why its possible to test a childs IQ who hasnt much education at all...cause its not based on that...only on how your brain processes information.

    I genuinely dont understand the purpose of cheating on an IQ test though...a person who does that is only cheating themselves really. If they are really interested in knowing what their IQ is, just take the test and see your results. If you cheat on the test, youll never know what your actual IQ is. And it really doesnt take smarts to cheat...like I said, thats just memorization..all it proves is you have a good memory, which has no reflect on intellect.

    Neverminding, I think I would feel more inadequate to pretend I have a certain IQ, and be in a class or around people who by my "cheated IQ" I should be on their level, but completely lost and cant understand what any of them are talking about. I can also almost always spot when someone is faking or lying about their IQ. The people who talk about it and find a way to work their IQ into conversation all the time, usually dont actually have it...neverminding the way they talk give them away too. Ive talked to college educated people who make me feel like my IQ dropped a couple points just having to hear them,..on the other hand, I still remember talking to a guy who had dropped out of school, and it was one of the most stimulating convos Id had...he was brilliant.

    So faking it does nothing for anyone.
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    To me, Montessori is right up there in importance as potty training Cost is of course a factor...but if the funds are there, I would say go for it. Its not even so much what kiddo learned, but the skills they taught her in *how* to learn..if that makes any sense? Even though she only went for K and 1st Gr, it gave her a solid foundation to build on, that helps her even all these years later now that shes in high school. It made such a major and positive impact on her, that she still drops by her old campus to see and say hi to the teachers and administration working there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    To me, Montessori is right up there in importance as potty training Cost is of course a factor...but if the funds are there, I would say go for it. Its not even so much what kiddo learned, but the skills they taught her in *how* to learn..if that makes any sense? Even though she only went for K and 1st Gr, it gave her a solid foundation to build on, that helps her even all these years later now that shes in high school. It made such a major and positive impact on her, that she still drops by her old campus to see and say hi to the teachers and administration working there.
    I went to Montessori school as a kid for a short time myself. My mother was sad when we moved as she said it changed my considerably for the better. Maybe it set a good foundation, and I have fond memories of it as a small kid. Was about 100 years ago, but I do have some memories of being out on field trips learning about the natural world, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    I went to Montessori school as a kid for a short time myself. My mother was sad when we moved as she said it changed my considerably for the better. Maybe it set a good foundation, and I have fond memories of it as a small kid. Was about 100 years ago, but I do have some memories of being out on field trips learning about the natural world, etc.
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    Idk I think IQ tests are slightly unfair.

    Example: the brain develops differently at different times for everyone. I was tested in third grade, 6th grade, and 9th grade. My third grade scores were very poor on the part of the test for spatial recognition questions. You know, like the ones where they unfold the box and you have to refold it? And the math-type questions were also low. I didn't really "get" those types of things til 9th grade. My brain was slow to develop those skills. Not to mention, those scores influenced how teachers saw me with math. Have me serious math anxiety problems.

    My scores increased 28 points between 6th grade and 9th grade. I think that says something about the unfairness if the test.
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