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    Question Share a secret?

    EDITED to present a post that has a more concise point and purpose :p

    To the more seasoned veteran cam girls, how much insight are you willing to offer a new camgirl to help her on her journey?
    Are you willing to share any of your own personal tips, experiences and tricks or do you keep them to yourself?

    Yes or no and why
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    Pretty sure a lot of us do this all day on SW, thru posts & PM, but cool that you're posting an informative thread.

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    ^ 'xactly. In addition to posting and reading I exhange PMs with a handful of girls. A couple of girls have been so amazing about giving me ideas and motivation to earn more/be better. I like to pay it forward with newer girls who are genuinely trying and not getting the results they want. I love to share strategies with them that have woked for me.

    Am I going to share all of my secrets on this open forum? Heck no! Because when you put something out there to the masses it usually becomes oversaturated and is no longer effective. Generic stuff, I am fine with discussing in open. Detailed tricks of the trade? No. I don't discuss that openly. I am not a top cam girl but I've been making a comfortable living at this for years and I have no problem discussing strategies with cam hosts who are polite and will actually apply the advice they ask for. Otherwise I am just wastng my time.

    It's so funny, a couple of nights ago I was telling my fiance about one girl on here in particular who is incredibly negative, rude, and I dare say, a bit racist. In fact this one girl just makes my blood boil and I felt so guilty wasting his time with my stories about her. He encouraged me to just stop coming on here but I told him I couldn't. StripperWeb has been a great resource for me and for all cam girls who use the site as intended, and I genuinely enjoy contributing here. He didn't quite understand why I would choose to give advice to "haters" (his word, not mine) which is exactly why I think I will be sticking more to PMs and verified from this point.

    I'm not sure, is this thread meant for people to actually share their secrets, or is it more like a yes/no?

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    Default Re: Share a secret?

    thank you and of course, this is something that many of us already know and do every day but I think that offering new ideas and approaches to new cam girls is always well received. I'd rather do this than receive PM's. JMO

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    Pretty sure a lot of us do this all day on SW, thru posts & PM, but cool that you're posting an informative thread.

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    I'm not meaning to strike a nerve or anything but why would you let someone on the internet that you don't even know and have never met get to you so badly? I'm just curious...I never have difficulty hitting the close window button and forgetting about it entirely. To me they don't pay my bills and don't effect me in any way shape or form.

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    ^ 'xactly. In addition to posting and reading I exhange PMs with a handful of girls. A couple of girls have been so amazing about giving me ideas and motivation to earn more/be better. I like to pay it forward with newer girls who are genuinely trying and not getting the results they want. I love to share strategies with them that have woked for me.

    Am I going to share all of my secrets on this open forum? Heck no! Because when you put something out there to the masses it usually becomes oversaturated and is no longer effective. Generic stuff, I am fine with discussing in open. Detailed tricks of the trade? No. I don't discuss that openly. I am not a top cam girl but I've been making a comfortable living at this for years and I have no problem discussing strategies with cam hosts who are polite and will actually apply the advice they ask for. Otherwise I am just wastng my time.

    It's so funny, a couple of nights ago I was telling my fiance about one girl on here in particular who is incredibly negative, rude, and I dare say, a bit racist. In fact this one girl just makes my blood boil and I felt so guilty wasting his time with my stories about her. He encouraged me to just stop coming on here but I told him I couldn't. StripperWeb has been a great resource for me and for all cam girls who use the site as intended, and I genuinely enjoy contributing here. He didn't quite understand why I would choose to give advice to "haters" (his word, not mine) which is exactly why I think I will be sticking more to PMs and verified from this point.

    I'm not sure, is this thread meant for people to actually share their secrets, or is it more like a yes/no?

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    ^Well, beause when people make racist comments, it is upsetting. Maybe as someone not of color you don't understand why it's so hard to just let it go when you've been told derogatory things all your life. Also, when this communty is creating an awesome vibe and a select few people come along and ruin it? Kind of a mood killer. Of course I don't expect you to understand this. There have been many threads recently, one recently locked, where a select few people choose to take on the role of Negative Nancy just... because? Because they are miserable and want to bring others down? I come here for support, laughs, and to kill time when I'm bored in free chat. When I'm in free chat in a relatively good mood, come here out of boredom, and read sheer rudeness it does put a damper on my mood while I am still in free chat. Thus, I may stick with PMs and verified where at least everyone has some manners. Once again, I would not expect you to understand.

    So to answer the poll and try to get back on topic, I answered it depends on who and in what situation. That's why. Because rude people don't deserve my help, but kind girls who actually put forth effort? I love to help them to succeed, just like my mentors have helped me.

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    Default Re: Share a secret?

    I actually just had a discussion with a girl in real life that just happened to be taking up camming. I told her a bit about my experience, and gave her some key tips (such as treat it like a job, consistent schedule etc). She kept badgering me for more details, but I just let her know everyone is different. I'll give obvious tips and encouragement where I can (I'm by no means an expert), but I'll keep my little tried and true tricks to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    ^Well, beause when people make racist comments, it is upsetting. Maybe as someone not of color you don't understand why it's so hard to just let it go when you've been told derogatory things all your life. Also, when this communty is creating an awesome vibe and a select few people come along and ruin it? Kind of a mood killer. Of course I don't expect you to understand this. There have been many threads recently, one recently locked, where a select few people choose to take on the role of Negative Nancy just... because? Because they are miserable and want to bring others down? I come here for support, laughs, and to kill time when I'm bored in free chat.

    So to answer the poll and try to get back on topic, I answered it depends on who and in what situation. That's why. Because rude people don't deserve my help, but kind girls who actually put forth effort? I love to help them to succeed, just like my mentors have helped me.

    I feel the same way. A person I admire on here who's contributed a lot to this forum has had TWO recent threads locked because of someone else's negativity.

    And Courtney, I don't think it's a big deal if you choose to vent to your boyfriend. It feels good to vent, and just about every single active poster on here does it too.

    I don't mind helping a fellow model out with basic info and ideas, as long as they're not using my public chat (I AM trying to work, after all) to ask me 50 questions in front of other guys. I've seen that kind of behavior in some of the SM rooms, and I just thought to myself "Why doesn't that chick just MESSAGE the model privately, instead of putting her on the spot like that with the 50 questions?"

    I'd also want to let the model know about the 'NO PAYPAL' thing, because I think it's a mistake a lot of models make. And I'd want to let her know about this forum, so I'd probably tell her to message me for more info. When I'm on cam in public chat, I never mention camming forums by name because there are guys in the room, and I don't want to contribute to us getting even more male lurkers on the forums. I hate to see a model's troll joining a cam forum with the intent to bash her in front of everyone.
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    Default Re: Share a secret?

    I don't mind giving new camgirls advice or help if they ask. I've been given help, tips, and advice from several helpful ladies on this board...actually in this very thread and I really appreciated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
    I'm not meaning to strike a nerve or anything but why would you let someone on the internet that you don't even know and have never met get to you so badly? I'm just curious...I never have difficulty hitting the close window button and forgetting about it entirely. To me they don't pay my bills and don't effect me in any way shape or form.

    I get what you're saying. A lot of times I can ignore ignorant asses but sometimes I get sick of the racist comments and actions. A person of color has a better understanding of this.

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    I don't mind giving advice. In any case, I know that there is no one-size formula for everyone, so I'm not worried about it slimming my chances of making money. People come to my room for who I am, and there aren't too many like me (just as there aren't too many like you or you).

    I can give my advice to girls, but as it has been said, I will usually only give it to those who are genuinely TRYING to better their skills at camming. I don't always want to give advice to newbies who haven't even tried to look through the forums before asking FAQ's. Besides, being a good cam girl requires initiative, and for those who aren't street smart and who can't simply use effing google for research won't much help from me.

    Newbs, do you research FIRST. Then, when you don't understand something or if you have a situation in particular that is not described on the threads, feel free to ask away. Again, I personally love sharing and I love helping people, but I don't want to waste my time on girls that aren't motivated.

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    What I am getting sick of is people DEMANDING help. Especially in SW chat, there are girls who would come on SW, DEMAND answers and instructions with no "Thanks" or anything. Bitch, this is not live tech support. So in that case, I am done giving out advice unless it is one of my SW friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    What I am getting sick of is people DEMANDING help. Especially in SW chat
    Yea that is very annoying especially when they pop into chat asking for help and then leave without saying anything

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    I will happily give out advice - more than when I was dancing, that is for sure! I feel like when we are online, we have the entire world as a customer base, so there is plenty to go around! With dancing, you really felt the competition, and were in direct competition with 100 girls (at the most, usually more like 30) so I would hoard my secrets jealously.

    But as others have said...there is only so much advice that you can give! What I've learned, and what I say to people that ask me directly, is that I can tell you what "I" do, and I can help you with the practicalities of signing up, but you have to figure out certain things for yourself. I can give you a script of my every cam session, or a recording of every one, but unless you have the same niche, attitude and energy, and feel comfortable with EXACTLY the same things I do, it's not going to be that much help.

    And at the same time, I don't think that just because another girl uses an identical "formula" for success as me, it doesn't mean that she will be as successful (or more, for that matter). The sex industry is all about connections on a personal level, so it is by definition very personal.

    That said, it does drive me BONKERS when I see girls posting who have clearly read NOTHING else on the forum, and often not even the FAQ section of the site that they are signing up on. I think I lurked on SW for a full year before posting, and it took me another year or so of replying to threads before I felt comfortable starting one. And like JoJo said, it makes me really frustrated when girls don't say thank you, or don't respond to replies on their own thread, or act as though there is some secret formula that we are all hiding from them. Grrr.
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    I've had tons of other people ask me for help camming. Some of them cam in when my room was doing well and asked me questions, I didn't want to talk to them about it, but I did. Half of them have since turned around and copied everything that I do to the T. I mean the topics I had up, the games I play, even some of the outfits. Instead of saying anything nice to me, they just used it and went away.

    I had a few people be nice, but ultimately I quit helping because I was tired of feeling used. Eventually, it got to the point where they would ask normal questions, then suddenly,

    "How much do you make?"
    "Enough to pay the bills."
    "Well, yeah, but how much do you actually make, a day, a month?"
    "I think that's a bit personal. I make enough to not be hungry."
    "How much do you pay in taxes?"
    "None of your business, seriously? I am not answering that."
    "I just want to know."

    OMG. Ban. No, I make enough and that's all you need to know.

    I don't mind helping a bit, but when you're asking me how much I make on a daily basis, then it seems more like you are being nosey and less like you want help.

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    I'm a little leery of responding to this thread cuz I'm kinda wondering what the motivation behind it was, but here goes...

    it depends

    If the chica is a friend of mine or someone I know and respect I'll answer anything. If chica is someone I've never spoken to before that approaches me politely I'll answer anything. If the chica is rude or acts entitled I ignore her. I don't get annoyed, I just move on.

    I don't see a newbie vs vet dichotomy, I see politeness vs rudeness, basic human respect vs entitlement

    it's funny how the rude ish sticks out though....after dozens of pleasant interactions with great chicas who treated me like a human being and appreciated my time, the one Q&A interaction I recall most vividly is the chica who contacted me unsolicited on yahoo and called me a bitch because I wouldn't write her a point form blue-print for how to "go indie" (I kid you not). It's ridiculous that I remember that incident that happened almost 2 years ago, but I raise it here to make the point that I think we sometimes focus on the bad interactions because the great ones aren't as memorable. It's routine when chicas ask a question politely, respond to the answer and thank the contributors for their time. What sticks out are the bishes because their behaviour is more extrordinary. Also, I haven't found that more seasoned cam chicas are less likely to have entitlement issues than brand new cammers, but luckily I've found that kind of rudeness to be fairly scarce in both groups

    Mind you, I've been on the other side of things too. This year a cam chica I'd barely ever had a conversation with up to that point helped me out immensely with a project of sorts I'm doing, and she stepped up selflessly to help me out when I had questions, really fucking needed some answers and had no idea where to begin. That I won't forget. ever. I've also learned a ton from countless members here just by reading through the incredible resource that is sw

    As far as the poll goes...even if I wanted to choose 'yes, always', I don't have any 'tricks of the trade', unless "try different ish until it works" counts as a secret.

    What I have observed is that the more questions a chica asks instead of researching herself, in general the less successful she'll be. Success means thinking creatively, finding new unique ways to do things and not getting caught up in following someone else's path. This business isn't for those who need step-by-step hand-holding throughout the process. There is no 'one' process. Tlulu said it already...motivation is something no one can teach

    Being brand new and intimidated is one thing, but chances are a chica who is already getting acclimatized to the job but who can't logically think through and execute different strategies until one sticks or research basic site info for herself won't make it. If they do, chances are they won't ever reach the potential they'd achieve if they were willing to do their own thing or exercise some initiative.

    Neither I think will those who treat their peers with less compassion and kindness than they themselves would hope to receive. This job can be isolating at times, and having peer support in various forms is vital to many. I know it is to me.


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    There's no point in keeping secrets from *serious* newbies, and you can usually tell when someone is serious about being successful as opposed to just wanting everything done for them. For serious newbies, I'll gladly tell them everything I know. The more educated new girls are, the better everyone does in the long run because they don't make stupid mistakes that end up costing everyone money(free flashes, paypal, etc). At the same time I think once a model is directed to a place like Camming Connection they should just read and read and read and read forever. If someone gives me the feeling they won't read, I won't help them.

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    It really depends on a lot of variables for me. Some people are like information leeches. They drain on the energy here, and throw out little bones once in a while, usually info we all already have, to appear helpful. Those people I'm not really interested in helping b/c they appear manipulative. They seem to be here with the intent to suck dry the people & information here, & give back little positivity to replace what they've taken.

    Most people who appear to be trying to help themselves, who have done the reading, have experimented, etc., are nice to others, I LOVE to help them. I don't always post info out in CC b/c customers read here & because I am a human being and subscribe the self-preservation. A lot of times when I answer a call for help, I will post a generic answer out here & then send a PM with more info.

    If someone specifically asks me for help, I will almost always help them to the best of my ability. I have frequently spent more hours on here in one day trying to help newbies than I have spent camming that day, if that person seems genuinely able to do for themselves with the info. And I also exchange very specific info & tips with some girls who I've known around here for a while. Sure, I've been burned. But if I go around expecting to be burned, I will do very little giving in my life. So I try to be open with info when I can.

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    I've given lots of advice in the past (I'm a real "learn as you go and learn it quickly" kind of person); I like to share my experiences with others. Now I'm a bit more focused on my own income so I have less time to sit around and chat (and coincidentally, way more helpful advice lol) but I think I have a good give-and-take repertoire with a few girls I've become friends with. I don't mind helping new girls if they ask questions and I have the time to answer.

    In my experience, half of the advice given in this job doesn't really count. I could tell you what plugin I have on my site to record what content is copied - that will probably be useful to you. I could tell you exactly what I said in a 7 minute findom video which netted me $1600 TODAY, and you could do the exact same thing, and get $10. Just because something works for me doesn't guarantee it'll work for everyone else. SO... I figure what's the harm in sharing my secrets?


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    I voted " sure, there is plenty for everyone"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    it makes me really frustrated when girls don't say thank you, or don't respond to replies on their own thread, or act as though there is some secret formula that we are all hiding from them. Grrr.
    no.. .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissEgo View Post
    Just because something works for me doesn't guarantee it'll work for everyone else. SO... I figure what's the harm in sharing my secrets?
    lol....
    so ull only share if you think it wont actually work for someone else?
    is that what you mean? or is my English that bad and I dont understand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    lol....
    so ull only share if you think it wont actually work for someone else?
    is that what you mean? or is my English that bad and I dont understand...
    Yes, your English is that bad LOL. That isn't how I read it and I'm sure that's not how it was meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    lol....
    so ull only share if you think it wont actually work for someone else?
    is that what you mean? or is my English that bad and I dont understand...

    No, you misunderstood. She's simply stating that what works for one model doesn't always work for the next model. And then she added that she doesn't mind sharing her secrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Yes, your English is that bad LOL. That isn't how I read it and I'm sure that's not how it was meant.
    lol..
    Are u 100 % sure?
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