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    Hello All,

    Although im a "newbie" here... i don't like people discriminating (sp) about people in general. i feel this forum is to help each other in this line of work, and motivate each other,, i browsed this forum for many weeks before i signed up.. and i'm no idiot to the internet in fact all my "vanilla" jobs i make on the internet.. i just find it kind of "mean" that the majority of "newbies" seem to be discriminated against.. i take camming very seriously and have been doing my research etc etc and yes i have asked questions on this forum... why because im trying to learn... isn't that what is a forum is to help each other? lets help each other succeed instead of tear each other down... while i agree with many things about raising prices etc i think for "newbies" i feel their should be more encouragement and motivation etc but i understand not all "newbies" see this forum its not fair to judge others, while i don't agree with cheap prices and i do believe it affects the other models, i just want to remind everyone you were all a "newbie" once.... lets just help each other and encourage each other to be successful powerful women.

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    Hey Ladies, First off i would like to say thank you to you all for your replies and welcomes! I apologize if i confused some of you! haha i guess the way i wrote the topic came out different than i had in my head hahaha! This forum has been so helpful to me already and i'm not trying to start off here on the wrong foot. I think discriminate was the wrong word to use to start with. I have been reading through the posts and going far back into them and 99% i've read have been amazing women supporting and encouraging each other and being helpful! So in noway did i mean to say that the entire forum or all the people are negative towards newbies, in fact it is the reverse and they have been very helpful and supportive.

    I have been reading so much on this forum daily, i've literally been spending all day and night on SW lol that i guess the little bits of negativity here and there as small or unimportant as they were, kinda built up and then i saw the video about all newbies should see this or something and how they put their prices so low etc and are messing it up for the others and i agreed 10000% with it because i think she is completely true, and i know it was for anyone camming in general, i probably took it and a few posts personal even if i had nothing to do with them hahaha because i am learning as much as can, i know when i start that i will put my prices high to begin with etc that i felt like hey im not like that and im sure not every new person is either,

    When i said everything in life is attitude i ment feeling good, looking at the good in everything, and being positive!

    Once again sorry for any confusion. I hope you all enjoy the holidays and are happy, making more and more $$$ and enjoying life
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    p.s eveything in your life is your attitude.....

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    I'm sorry you feel like you've been discriminated against. I read the thread you started, asking about camming, and everyone was very helpful, so I'm not sure where this post is coming from. Rudeness is definitely not tolerated here. When there is a drama thread, Loveshooks (our mod) is very quick to close it.

    No matter what, there is going to be occasional drama, but the helpful wonderful people on this forum outweigh it by far. I know I've had a few moments here when I've said something really out of my character, and trust me, I regretted it. This job can be really stressful sometimes (but also awesome and I'm very thankful). I hope you like it here and if you can't find your answers in search functions, most girls here (including me) are happy to help.

    Also, my main advice when you're asking for advice is, don't forget to show your gratitude to people who help. I see posters, particularly ManyRoses who helps a lot and the person she is helping often forgets to tell her "thank you for your help." This doesn't apply to you at all, OP, because I know you appreciate it when people give you advice. It's just directed at people who forget sometimes.

    By the way, I still consider myself a newbie still because I just started camming in August 2012 after a year long hiatus.

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    Oh i agree!! i'm sorry because there are many many people here who are VERY helpful i was not talking about people who replied to my thread, i was just speaking in general... i know this forum has sooo many wonderful ladies and really they are amazing. i just felt like there were so many "topics" or theads about newbies as if they are alll the same.. and it just bugged me. i would not be here if i didn't believe the ladies were helpful and lovely. All i was trying to say is everyone was a newbie once and while i understand the frustration about many newbies and what they do.. not all have been fortunate to see this forum.

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    I'm sorry you feel that many newbies are being discriminated against. I may be missing something because I was taken back by this thread. I feel many of us here, myself included were once newbies so we're trying to make it as helpful and welcoming as we can. I still feel like I have so much to learn and so much to share. I do see where you're coming from. I do see there's a "clique" with some of the girls but not the majority of us. Loveshooks is doing a great job at regulating them. The best way to resolve that is to add them to your 'ignore list'. Life is too short and precious to let anyone rent negative space in your head.
    On a lighter note, welcum to Stripperweb and I hope you prosper!

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    Yep, I'm totally lost. To my knowledge there hasn't been any dissing of newbies lately. When I first came around, I was a lot more sensitive and easily offended than I am now. I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but consider that it's possible, and if you've been browsing for "many weeks" perhaps you dug back into some old threads. I haven't seen any threads about newbies. Honestly, I'm pretty surprised by this. And since you say that people were helpful to you, I'm not sure why you decided to start this. Sorry that you feel "newbies" are being discriminated against, but I just don't see where you're getting that. Hopefully whatever is going on to make you feel that way will change.

    Look around, lots of positive threads started lately. Welcome to SW, and good luck.

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    Oh, well if you're talking about this:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...-CAM-GIRL-LOOK

    Mimi is a sweetie, and she's kind of newbie herself since she had to take a break, so I think she was posting that as more of a "we" need to do this.... everyone pay attention, kind of thing. I don't think it was offensive at all, and most people seemed to find that helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    Yep, I'm totally lost. To my knowledge there hasn't been any dissing of newbies lately. When I first came around, I was a lot more sensitive and easily offended than I am now. I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but consider that it's possible, and if you've been browsing for "many weeks" perhaps you dug back into some old threads. I haven't seen any threads about newbies. Honestly, I'm pretty surprised by this. And since you say that people were helpful to you, I'm not sure why you decided to start this. Sorry that you feel "newbies" are being discriminated against, but I just don't see where you're getting that. Hopefully whatever is going on to make you feel that way will change.

    Look around, lots of positive threads started lately. Welcome to SW, and good luck.

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    I must admit, like Marina Starr & Cam_Model_Jess that I am a little confused to newbies being discrimated against.

    Then again, I don't really see the "cliques" that Marina Starr sees, so it is very possible I might have missed these other goings on.

    It is my personal opinion that the 'concept' of support is different to many people. I find Camming Connection to be very supportive. It just isn't it that common 'kitten and rainbows' way that people use the word. Here, everything is like learning to ride a bicycle without training wheels. We will hold on to your seat and run behind you for a little while but we can't run behind you forever. We will have to let go at some point and the new girls will have to balance on their own. I know that upsets the people who are used to the 'kittens and rainbows' type of support sometimes.

    My personal opinion is also that people often use the word 'negativity' when they are talking about the amount of debating that goes on in this forum. You have a group of strong and opinionated women here who very much like to express those opinions. I know this because I am one of them.

    For all the 'clashing of egos' I have gotten into in Camming Connection it is a rare time that I have had anyone call me a name or disrepect me. The few rare times it has happen the mods handled the situation beautiful, such as they always do. People may disagree with each others opinions here but they are mature enough to know that people are not only their opinions. There are many women that I don't always see eye-to-eye with on everything little thing but who I still completely adore none-the-less.

    But in the end, these are all just words aren't they? To prove to you how welcoming Camming Connection is to newbies flor0586, I want you to know that you can send me a private message any time you find you are stuck or want an immediate answer and don't want to deal with waiting for the forums to answer and I can promise you that I will help you the best that I can.

    We are all in this together, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    By the way, I still consider myself a newbie still because I just started camming in August 2012 after a year long hiatus.
    Hijacking this thread for just a second.....Sammii, I am really glad you came back.

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    Apologies for the threadjack, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
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    Somebody call the waaaahmbulance.

    None of us have to offer our insight and help to newbies but we do it, every single day because we want to. Ungrateful.
    What the hell? This is the EXACT sort of negativity shit we need to start seeing the back of. Perhaps you might wish to take yourself away from the forums for a little while over the festive period and regain a sense of humility and compassion? God knows you need it, from what I've seen of you in recent threads.


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    LRRG: That might be the kind of unnecessary rudeness the OP is talking about. Seriously, you're rude to people and you should really examine how much help you've gotten from this forum & how often you ask for help around here. People keep trying to politely point this out to you, but it's thus far gone over your head or you just don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
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    Somebody call the waaaahmbulance.

    None of us have to offer our insight and help to newbies but we do it, every single day because we want to. Ungrateful.

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    And OP, I'm following jac's lead here. You're also welcome to PM me anytime you want.

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    Maybe there's some truth to that but IMO over the course of a year I've watched this forum turn into cafemom.
    When I joined, every redundant post was answered with "please do a search prior to posting" with 15 links provided where the topic had already been discussed in great lengths.
    Now it's a place for stroking ego's and soothing ruffled feathers. No wonder we haven't seen Hayden in weeks.
    I'll remove myself. Peace out

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    I've been a very active member of forums since the early 2000s and I'm also a forum moderator myself, but, said with the best possible intentions, I don't understand the very present mentality here of this attitude towards newcomers. I haven't seen it many places elsewhere. The only places this tends to happen is online gatherings of people who spend a lot of their time online. But the attitude is very noticeable, especially if you're new to it. If you're not so new to the forum, the chances are you won't notice it because you're so used to it, but it is still there. If someone new asks a question, it could be only a couple of minutes until they get layed into or snapped at by a veteran member who might respond like it's their job, and not even one they like very much.

    A big beef had with newbies is not reading the stickies - a newbie who knows nothing about camming and hasn't checked the stickies...? Oh my, I am sure a lot of you know I'm saying... She had better watch out! Honestly, how comfortable would you be about posting a thread like that here? But it will always happen, because not everyone has spent as much time on forums as us bunch. I can't expect that many girls who haven't spent a week researching camming or StripperWeb etiquette would expect she might be looked down upon for not already knowing the basics of camming even though she is new to it all.

    Lil Red - If you respond every day to threads that make you want to phone the "waaahmbulance", then why do you do it? No one is forcing you to offer your insight, (topped off with a side-order of snark there in your message before). Isn't it more worthwhile to concentrate your energies on all the positive you have to give? Because no one has to grateful for a snarky attitude. If you spend huge portions of your day here like I do, like many of us do, isn't it more worthwhile to use our expertise for the good of this forum, and boost morale, rather than use it to make newcomers feel bad, guilty, unwelcome, or like they shouldn't have posted here unless they've spent their entire evening reading?

    I truly hope this message doesn't cause yet more drama - I just figure people want to be happy. We all have that in common. We all want to be happy, successful performers. So just do what makes you happy, as long as you aren't hurting anyone. x


    [EDIT] -

    I just saw your post to the Christmas greetings thread, Lil Red, and I just want to say here that the holidays have likely been the result of a lot of stress and tension and negativity around here lately. If not for fluctuating or lacking clients for some of us due to any number of varying reasons: Obligatory family gatherings, partings, partyings, bad things going on with family, Christmas shopping, rocketing costs and thus more need to work, or any of these things going on for our regs! - many of us are under a lot of pressure right now and of course it is going to show. I hope everyone is bearing up well. <3
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    Just to throw in my two cents and I know a few share my opinion with this. I am going to try to be as diplomatic and non-"talking down to" as I can.. This is just honesty. Nothing more.

    I haven't seen any bad mouthing or anything in regards to noob girls here. The reason being is because this forum has taken a pretty big improvement with the mods being assigned here and they are pretty adamant about keeping the peace.

    I was a new girl once and I get it but there's more than likely a few reasons why newbies here get the shaft:

    1. Us vet cam girls CAN get annoyed really easy due to the nature of the same crap we hear everyday... Example - when we see new threads getting posted here, over and over again, when there are 4-6 pinned stickies up there on the main page on how to use SW along with how to use the search function, it gets VERY aggravating. In my opinion, there are many girls here that are happy to help but there are some that are not. That is the nature of the beast. Some girls feel that you should have to learn many stuff on your own like we had to - and more so, some feel that you should be able to learn how to utilize this resource on your own. Whether it be by lurking for awhile or just simply navigating the site in general... just more often than not, stupid questions that are clearly answered right there on the first page are always asked. It's not meant to be discriminating in response wise, but I think you just meant more along the lines of girls getting an attitude with you for asking something. There isn't any discriminating because that would be who you are and what color you are and the other etc things that come with that.

    2. The Girls on SW are not here to be against you. We are here to share our experiences and even though some of us fight, doesn't mean we don't all look out for one another. If that wasn't the case, there wouldn't be almost 10 forums here and a million subforums with 5454787448 threads and posts. Even if we are here to help you, you just cannot be lazy about looking for information here. Granted, the search tool is an asshole to many of us - but you just have to figure out the correct ways to use it before asking the question on a new thread stating you couldn't find it using the search tool only with the admin throwing links at you when it's actually there to be found.

    3. I hate to put it this way - and this might be tough love... so please don't take this too personal. We are not here to cater to just the new girls. We are here to cater to each other. We are here to look out for one another, keep each other's hopes up, hold each other up when we are about to break and share our experiences with the occasional banter of ranting and raving. You cannot take things personal when another girl appears to get an attitude with you in a reply or post. It happens because we are all different. Many of us agree on the same thing in the world of camming, but every girl treats their business different in the effect of how we go about making money. Some girls are defensive and mean by nature. Some girls are just like that - you just have to remember it's very hard to interpret text as a feeling. So you just have to take it with a grain of salt, take the information you need instead of the puns or BS that might be said, and just let it roll off. However, all of us cannot cater to every single new girl here when there is a wealth of information on the first page. Many of us see it as the new girls being lazy and not taking enough time to do what they need to in order to utilize this place in being a successful cam girl - because this place has the tools, advice and the experiences to make that happen for you. There is more than enough encouragement here - again, the first page and second page of the Camming Connection - you see so many threads on encouragement, laughter, joking and more. There are way more threads of girls lifting each other up and making each other laugh than there is tearing down. If you haven't noticed, admins here keep a lid on it because they just shut that thread down because they don't tolerate it.

    In conclusion - no one is judging you. No one is trying to make you feel bad or worthless on this forum. Everyone is different and answers posts different from their experiences. Many of us have taken bitter to the level because the camming world isn't easy these days. Many of us have bills to pay. Many of us have X-mas presents to buy. Many of us have dealt with the scum of the earth and just sometimes, when they don't have anyone else to take it out on, they do it here without even realizing it. You making this thread is the sort of negativity we hate... because we don't need to be reminded of when we were a newbie once, because it sucked. Then we have to relive all the mistakes we made, the things that we lost money on and the like BEFORE we found this wealth of information forum...and because we already posted about the mistakes we made when we were you at one point. It was because of the next thread we read only to learn how to evolve and excel at this job. This forum is how we, as cam girls, escorts, etc., learned to be successful by learning what was posted here. We take each others' experiences and try to adapt them to our own.

    The only thing that many girls are going to take offense to on this thread is the way you have told us how we need to remember this and what this forum is for in your opinion. Trust me, we all know the good, the bad, the ugly, the success, the mistakes, the fighting, the bullshit and the more that happens here on this forum. You have to remember that you are a newbie and while you have done your research here, you haven't quite figured out the ways of SW and how to adapt to how things work around here. Think of it as unwritten rules involving respect and consideration for your fellow cam girls here. We are ALL in this TOGETHER and while we all have our own hustle and do things our way, get mad at another for something they post, at the end of the day - we are all in this together and there's no reason to be negative about it at all. We all know how we should act here. We all know what the rules are, what is expected of us and how we are supposed to act... You have to learn that too - especially being a newbie, while we understand where you are coming from in this thread, you have no right to tell may of us how to act or what we should be doing... There are plenty of threads that have changed the lives of some girls camming and their business - so we already do encourage and help each other out so many of us are successful and powerful cam models.

    I hope you take as much from this forum as we do and in time learn how things work around here. It might be just a forum in many opinions that people just banter and post on - but many of us here are family and best friends... If that didn't happen, this would just be one huge place where women went to tear each other apart for not learning the ways of the force.

    I hope things look up for you and you have a wonderful holiday.

    Added: If you need anything, feel free to PM me. I will surely help as I can but I only deal with one particular cam site these days - so if I can't help, I can try to find someone who can. I apologize if you feel people have been mean.. but I can only do my job to help as I can when I can, when I am able to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilRedRidinGood View Post
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    Somebody call the waaaahmbulance.

    None of us have to offer our insight and help to newbies but we do it, every single day because we want to. Ungrateful.
    Uncalled for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    LRRG: That might be the kind of unnecessary rudeness the OP is talking about. Seriously, you're rude to people and you should really examine how much help you've gotten from this forum & how often you ask for help around here. People keep trying to politely point this out to you, but it's thus far gone over your head or you just don't care.
    I would have to agree. I think many of us, even me at times, say things a little too brash. I just think that you tend to be too hard on people and say things the wrong way. I appreciate your honesty - but the other day, you made me feel this big on a post you seem to got an attitude with me on. I wasn't happy but I did get over it, letting it roll off.

    But I agree with Jess, I don't know if it's that you just don't care how you talk to the other girls or what... You do have some very great information and views on many things and while I appreciate them and value that, I think you could do a little better on relaying things instead of coming off so mean and brash. I used to do the same thing the way that you do - till I got my ass handed me on a silver platter from some of the girls here. I will be the first to tell you I deserved it and I stepped away from this place for a long time and then I came back with a new outlook - I would have never learned if these girls wouldn't have put me in my place - because I was being a serious cunt to girls that didn't deserve it.

    I just don't want that to happen to you either.
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    There's no reason to get offended Red.

    This place hasn't turned into that - it's evolved in being a better places without girls ripping each others' heads off for a view that they don't agree on.

    WE ALL used to have to deal with the crap of people posting over and over - we got over that. AS the more time you spend here and time goes by, you just gotta let these things roll off. There WERE a lot of postings that were repeated, it happens with the like of new girls - this place can be SO intimidating and frustrating UNTIL you learn how to use it... you have to give the noobs SOME type of leeway in that. You also have to know that the search function is an asshole to EVERYONE and not just the vet girls here.

    No one said we wanted you to leave, we just are saying you come off harsh and mean sometimes. You seriously make people feel like crap and small as ever when they ask something... That's all. I would think you would just want to improve that rather than taking the route "Well, if you don't like me, F U all and I'm outtie."
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    Default Re: Let's Stop the Negativity

    Ok, hold up,



    I was mentioned twice. So lets just iron some things out.

    1. Please don't throw my name around like it's an excuse for being rude. I did have a bitchy streak. I'M NOT IMMORTAL. lol Don't use my name/look at me like I'm some sort of example/excuse to be rude or bitchy. I'm blunt and sometimes I cross that line into cunt territory and guess what it did to me here? I racked up 25 points and got the ban hammer thrown at me. I'm lucky and sooo grateful I'm still even on SW. I'm grateful I even have friends! <3 I've apologized and I've chilled out since I've been back.

    2. I wasn't annoyed with newbies (the people themselves) just the endless repetitive questions. I've uh, made that clear before, yes. Instead of endlessly bitching I just shut my gob and only posted when I felt like it. Wah-la. I hardly post in CC because I barely even read it - I'm good and am busy enough with verified and Chatzy via internet and then work and life. But that's hilarious that you feel like you know my reasoning for not posting in CC? lol

    This is a super good resource/support system so I don't understand why anyone would want to just throw it away by being endlessly bitchy. There is like blunt honesty...then there is cunty to the point of no compassion at all. People have feelings, we need to be reminded of that all the time. We're not just dueling keyboards in cyberspace. Step back from the keyboard, read and re-read what you write before you post, if it's full of bitter/anger/bitchy snark. Delete it and go pummel a punching bag for a few hours, get fucked, get high. Something. Get your mood back up.

    Lets not go down LovelyMe's path to the Dark Side. It's an ugly cycle. Yeesh.

    (I may go back and edit/add to this when I'm fully awake...lol)








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    Cunty, oh how I love that word! For example, 'How you doing?' I'm feeling a bit cunty. LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    Ok, hold up,



    I was mentioned twice. So lets just iron some things out.

    1. Please don't throw my name around like it's an excuse for being rude. I did have a bitchy streak. I'M NOT IMMORTAL. lol Don't use my name/look at me like I'm some sort of example/excuse to be rude or bitchy. I'm blunt and sometimes I cross that line into cunt territory and guess what it did to me here? I racked up 25 points and got the ban hammer thrown at me. I'm lucky and sooo grateful I'm still even on SW. I'm grateful I even have friends! <3 I've apologized and I've chilled out since I've been back.

    2. I wasn't annoyed with newbies (the people themselves) just the endless repetitive questions. I've uh, made that clear before, yes. Instead of endlessly bitching I just shut my gob and only posted when I felt like it. Wah-la. I hardly post in CC because I barely even read it - I'm good and am busy enough with verified and Chatzy via internet and then work and life. But that's hilarious that you feel like you know my reasoning for not posting in CC? lol

    This is a super good resource/support system so I don't understand why anyone would want to just throw it away by being endlessly bitchy. There is like blunt honesty...then there is cunty to the point of no compassion at all. People have feelings, we need to be reminded of that all the time. We're not just dueling keyboards in cyberspace. Step back from the keyboard, read and re-read what you write before you post, if it's full of bitter/anger/bitchy snark. Delete it and go pummel a punching bag for a few hours, get fucked, get high. Something. Get your mood back up.

    Lets not go down LovelyMe's path to the Dark Side. It's an ugly cycle. Yeesh.

    (I may go back and edit/add to this when I'm fully awake...lol)

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    Default Re: Let's Stop the Negativity

    Ya'll just need to chill
    its allllll goood. just have fun with camming
    Nobody is hating on newbies...but it is important for them to read the stickies, as it will answer ur questions. if you want to bitch, fine...bitch in the camming sucks right now thread fucking blow that shit up if you want, we dont't care..IF you want to brag by all means, go to the brag thread...girls love to read it as it helps get their game on for work! HEY I CAN DO THAT!!! if you have a question about SM OR MFC....use the threads, people will reply no matter how redundant it is to hear the same question. we were all new at one here...and have learned a lot from each other. tried and true secrets are kept aren't really discussed, but the basics will get you started and your creativity will blossom there you go, ur very own tried and true secret )
    If you need an answer right away go to the general chat, its fucking awesome, to rant, bitch, brag, and ask questions.
    I love it here and i love my friends I have made.

    best advice I can give is HAVE FUN WHEN CAMMING, FUCK WHAT PEOPLE SAY and DONT drink a shit ton on cam like i did last night >.< no bueno...fill that shit with soda, water and food coloring if needed.

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    Default Re: Let's Stop the Negativity

    I would challenge you to find any other industry where there are folks willing to donate their time and share their precious hard won tips and tricks to their competition!

    (with that said, I feel there is more than enough biz to go around. I'm making way more than I ever have as a whole this past year, even with this shitty economy).

    When I started camming back in the dark ages there was pretty much nothing and nobody to help me.

    To the newbies - first search, do your best to find the info and figure it out on your own and then ask your questions. This place is a gold mine!



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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I would challenge you to find any other industry where there are folks willing to donate their time and share their precious hard won tips and tricks to their competition!
    ^ Truer words were never spoken.




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