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    Default Ideas for VIP Room Charges in Club that Doesn't Allow Overcharge/Asking for Tips

    What do you all think about doing one of the following two (in a club that doesn't allow you to overcharge): (1) Ask, before starting to dance, if he wants to tip you before or after room ends. Say something along lines of, "The better the tip, the more fun we can have " Then also say that you basically do the # of lapdances that equals how much money that you get to keep that club doesn't get." <---That's the simplest way that I can put it. So, for instance, if I get $50 for 15 min. room, that means at the bare minimum, he gets about 2 dances. If he wants me to keep dancing whole time, I suggest another $50. OR (2) Start by giving 2 really good lapdances, then say that I can tell he's having fun and wants me to continue. He'll probably say yes. I'll then say that I got $50 for about 3 lapdances (even though it will be 2 1/2), and if he wants me to keep going, I suggest that he tips another $50 for about 3 more dances. --------The key word in both of the transactions is "suggest." I'm not demanding a tip, nor am I charging extra. I will continue to stay in the room and talk w/him (while on his lap) if he chooses not to tip.

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    Default Re: Ideas for VIP Room Charges in Club that Doesn't Allow Overcharge/Asking for Tips

    Your first way is going to confuse customers by trying to distinguish how much the club gets, how much you get, and all that. When it comes down to it, $x leave the customers pocket to pay for your time, and any more information will just get lost on them. Stick with your line about "the more you tip, the more fun we can have" and throw in another about "most gentlemen tip $x". Do this before the room starts. If they don't tip/don't tip a lot, go slow with the room. You dot want to start with two really good dances and then just sit in their lap talking, as that's not how you'll get extensions or more tips. You want to start with the lap sitting conversation with light sensual touches, move in to sexy dances, and end with your hottest moves.

    The second way you're phrasing it makes it sound like overcharging rather than asking or "suggesting" tips because from his perspective, it sounds like you're saying your time is up after only 2 dances. How strict is your club actually with this? Like, have they fired girls over this sort of thing? Do other girls do it regularly? Is it just one of those rules that doesn't really matter unless someone complains? You might be able to get away with your phrasing depending on how much this rule is actually enforced.

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    Default Re: Ideas for VIP Room Charges in Club that Doesn't Allow Overcharge/Asking for Tips

    Oh, that totally makes sense about not starting w/two good dances, but to be honest, I'd rather NOT get extensions on a room where I was making $50 for 15 minutes, to be honest. I could be using that time to hustle lapdances where we get to keep all $20 for one dance (about 3 minutes, bc they cut songs short). I see what you're saying about ending with sexy moves, though, to keep them wanting more

    I don't think that girls regularly say the second thing that I suggested, but I know that I, personally, would rather make $0 than an amount that I think is not worth my time. I know that, when I do work for an amt that I don't think is worth my time, I come out of it feeling used, degraded, annoyed, and angry lol.

    I'm not saying that his time is up, in the room w/me, after the two dances are complete. I'm just saying that I won't grind on his lap/massage/dance on him anymore - I will surely entertain him with conversation, though. A VIP room, to me, is not just about lapdancing, though many guys Do get dances for the total amount of time. It's about a more intimate, private experience where the guy won't have to worry about the girl being called to stage and other people around him...and where he can feel "special."

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotica268 View Post
    Oh, that totally makes sense about not starting w/two good dances, but to be honest, I'd rather NOT get extensions on a room where I was making $50 for 15 minutes, to be honest. I could be using that time to hustle lapdances where we get to keep all $20 for one dance (about 3 minutes, bc they cut songs short).
    Why bother selling them at all then? It doesn't sound like a good deal for you, so in the off-chance you get a customer who actually asks you for VIP, just offer him a block of time for the same amount of money as the club charges (or even a bit less to make it a deal but still worthwhile for you) but go to the normal dance room so the club doesn't get its cut. It just doesn't seem worth the hassle of not only hustling someone into VIP but then sneakily hustling them to tip twice as much to make it worth it for you.

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    That would totally work (selling regular lapdances, and not selling VIP rooms), and I'd normally do that, but I heard that, in this club, 15 minutes rooms are the big sellers. Basically, the lapdances are more like air dances - customers can't touch, dancers have to keep both feet on ground at all times, dancers can't be in same position on guy for more than 3 seconds - they're basically advertised as air dances. Each of the air dances costs $20 (dancer gets to keep all). So...say that each dance is about 3 minutes. For 15 minutes, for $100, customers can touch, have private area, and get full contact dances...all for, essentially, the same price ($20/song breaks down to about five 3 minute songs). If I were a customer, I'd opt for the $100 offer, because I get more for the same amount of money.

    I could technically just not try to sell them, but it's hard for me to stack air dances - its hard for me to sell a product that I don't believe is worth the value, and I don't really think that an air dance is worth $20. Soon, the club is raising the air dance price to $30, of which the club will get $10 - even worse.

    I guess that I could offer 5 songs for $90, instead of $100...but there again, if I were a customer, I'd rather pay an extra $10 or $20 to be able to touch, to get full contact, and to have more privacy and not have the girl jumping around to a new position every 3 seconds. And they're VERY strict about the lapdance rules. I thought that they were just saying stuff (like some clubs do), but no, they actually have 2 people watching the cameras, and if a girl does something wrong, they will flash a really bright light. I'm so trained to do other types of dances, that I wasn't Trying to break the rules, but during my first dances there, I did at least 3 things wrong. Right afterwards, the DJ (who's one person who watches the cams) came back and literally told me everything that I did wrong.

    I also watched some of the other girls give dances, thinking that they'd "break the rules" by staying in a position for more than 3 seconds, but they ALL jump around like crazy. I actually used to work at this one club where this girl gave very active dances, and I wondered why in the heck she kept jumping around like that...and she said she used to work where I do now...now I understand.

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    Default Re: Ideas for VIP Room Charges in Club that Doesn't Allow Overcharge/Asking for Tips

    Aaaah. Gotcha. That's.... Damn. That club is good at getting its money from you girls. It does indeed sound like that VIP will be a much easier sell since it offers contact for the same price. I bet they're very strict about the overcharging if they're that on the ball with the touching rules too. I think your best bet would be to always bring up tipping whenever pricing is mentioned, even before you get to the VIP - "it's $100 and tips are always appreciated, most gentlemen tip around $50" nod and smile. So while you're hustling, say that. On the way to VIP, say that. While he's handing you the money, say that. Obviously use different phrasing, but always nod, smile, and tell them tips will make their time that much more enjoyable. That way you're all covered so the club can't get mad and you're also not barraging the customer with information about who gets how much of his money.

    Also, push for longer sales right off the bat so you (a) don't have to worry about getting tipped between each 15 minute block and (b) make it more worthwhile. Like, if you sell an hour for $400, you can tell the client that most gentlemen tip $100-200. Obviously you'd prefer to get that extra $200 but even if they only tip half that, $300 for an hour is a very respectable amount (that's how much I get!) and you will most certainly not be dancing throughout the whole hour either, so it won't feel like you're working too hard for too little. Besides, the reality is that not everyone will be tipping you (certainly not half the cost of the room) for each 15 minute VIP, so you won't be missing out too much. Of course, this does depend on the clientele of the club. If there's not many big spenders, it won't be as successful, but certainly push for the longer rooms.

    And, since this tends to be the go-to solution in so many threads, are there any other clubs in your area you can check out?

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