****MODS****Delete this thread. I didn't realize some of the camgirls on this site would use this as advertising. I find it appalling and disgusting and I want to throw up reading that people are using this advertising.





****MODS****Delete this thread. I didn't realize some of the camgirls on this site would use this as advertising. I find it appalling and disgusting and I want to throw up reading that people are using this advertising.
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I don't think anyone is advertising, but maybe I am wrong. I was under the impression from reading some of these posts that girls are *role playing* bestiality, not actually engaging in the act.





I don't think K9 guys that come to camming sites really believe in treating animals as loved partners, not as sex toys. Otherwise they wouldn't ask a random girl to have sex with her obviously, er, unprepaired for interspecific sex dog (because, in this terms, that would be nothing but rape).





Look, I try not to start or involve myself with drama on this site but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don't think that she was advertising LAC but merely stating that she's okay with providing a no taboo service. I don't think it's fair to jump on the bandwagon and judge the cam/phone girls who are okay with discussing no taboos just because you won't yourself. Can we just leave it as a to each their own agree to disagree situation? Everyone has their opinion on what is and isn't vile. It's also not fair to point fingers. I'm not trying to defend the act of harming/hurting animals here so please, don't get me wrong. But I will say that if a girl chooses to discuss whatever is between her and her client, that's where it should stay. There are "normal" people who don't deserve to home a pet yet still do. If a client's fantasy is too extreme for you, just don't do it.
Though I wouldn't discuss or do those sorts of things on cam, I follow a no taboo rule on my calls. I of course can deny any call but am I just as vile because I choose to talk about things some girls won't? So what? It's great you guys are passionate about something but why do you care what sorts of fantasies other girls are giving their clients? Tell the customer no, and move the fuck on. So. What. My point is, there are a helluva lot of people who don't like the fact that we are cam/phone girls. There are wives, mothers, girlfriends, pastors, politicians and whomever else who think we are the most filthy and disgusting things on the face of the earth. That we're home wreckers, sluts, skanks, hoes, and every other name in the book because we choose to give their men their fantasies and do things they won't. There are plenty of people who think you are just as vile. Pot meet Kettle. So what's the issue here again? To each their own.
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Chloe bb I agree with you completely on your personal policy to not engage with bestiality guys, but it's a situation every cam chica encounters on cam (and during phone sex) and I don't feel comfortable deleting a thread just because some chicas have a policy/opinion on the matter that differs from what most of us are comfortable with.
If I felt any given chica here was using this thread opportunistically to 'advertise' her services I would delete those posts, but I honestly don't feel that's the case here. In a discussion about an 'extreme taboo' type of customer, it's expected that multiple perspectives will be shared. Although I'm not personally comfortable engaing in that type of fantasy role play either (I find it horrifying) I don't feel within my rights to shut down a discussion just because people have offered differential perspectives. Trolling and drama needs to get shut down, not discussion.
If Isobel feels differently I'll be happy to defer to her judgement, but personally I don't feel comfortable deleting a topic just because chicas shared a minority perspective. I hope that explanation makes sense :/




Kind of side-topic, but still pretty relevant... does it piss anyone else off that even role playing is "illegal"? (Talking about camsites) Like as in, if you want to talk erotically to another person about something - not a single soul getting hurt in the process - it's almost as bad as if it wasn't role play but reality? Even though there's something of a GIGANTIC difference between the two? :/
To me, that's a huge misunderstanding of fantasy and reality. Like why would / should I care what other people talk about / get off from their own imaginations? Why should anyone? In my opinion, it should be no one's business what two people might role play as together - no one is being harmed. *shrugs*
I mean, I might not like it, it might not be up my street, it might make me want to throw up, but - since when did everyone's fantasies have to be approved by me in the first place?





Yes, but since I started the thread don't I have the right to ask that it be deleted? I have never asked for any of my threads to be deleted in my almost 6 years on SW. This is how upset I am about this. I believe it is my right to ask for a thread to be deleted (I have seen Miss Katie/Sexy Susie do this numerous times and have her requests granted for absolute trivial things). I am asking you to delete this thread because it is MY thread and I would really like it deleted. Please. Please. Please delete this thread.





And if for what ever reason you find that you can't delete it, please lock it. The above poster is already trying to derail it- asking why this should be illegal? That is not what this about.
Wow, I must be really dense b/c I just don't see the problem. I think bestiality is horrible, it makes me very angry when someone asks for it, and it's a bannable offense IMHO, but that's IN MY ROOM. I won't participate in it, even if it's completely make-believe. But I have no control over what other models do & I won't condemn them for it or waste my time with hate. I didn't at all get the feeling that anyone in this thread was trying to advertise for themselves. And if responding with an opposing opinion is derailing, then I guess every thread on this forum has been derailed. I insert relevant side-topics all the time. If we're going to start imposing rules about who can respond to our threads in what manner (aside from the established forum rules), it's gonna get pretty boring & uninformative around here.
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Did you mean me? I wasn't trying to derail your thread; I was bringing up something in association with the discussion. I certainly am not asking why bestiality should be illegal - but I do think fantasizing should be legal (i.e. owning your own brain. Because if we can't even think about something without punishment, I honestly wouldn't want to live in a world where other people have a say over what I do with my own mind!)
So on that note, I absolutely believe that role play of ANY subject should also be 100% legal.
But carrying out abusive fantasies in reality causing harm to another living creature? Absolutely NOT!
Aside from that my opinion on this is pretty much identical to that of HaydenBlue's.![]()
i personally don't think it's wrong if a girl chooses to roleplay these types of fetishes with guys as long as there are no actual animals involved. so i totally get what your saying here incantatious. i personally choose to not do these types of roleplays myself when asked. tho i will not hold it against someone else for choosing to fake role play. i am not against taboo roleplays and even engage in some myself. what others choose to do is on them as long as they are not actually engaging in the activity.




Same here.
I so badly wish I could do taboo role play! I do get that it's their site to do as they wish with, and I do appreciate that, but damn do I lose a shit ton of business.
I get mistaken for a teenager a lot in my daily life, and I can pull off the innocent look extremely easily, and so whenever I've had clients who want age-play, I have to decline over and over. For that reason I actually try to look older than I do in order to fit a niche that doesn't mean I get those guys anymore because SM doesn't permit it and I don't fancy losing my job over it.
If a guy starts saying disgusting shit like "I have a little girl / dog / here I'm going to abuse" - BAN AND REPORT that fucker. And probably log off disgusted to gather myself for a while. Heaven forbid, if he actually opens up C2C and I see a crime being committed, I will do everything in my power to ensure some serious action is taken.
BUT - if I get a guy say, "How do you feel about age play with me?" - it's just two consenting adults playing make-believe with each other, no harm done and I'm going to wish I could have taken him up on the offer!
When I used to work no taboo phone sex lines I actually got a lot of bestiality *role play* calls and I never had a problem with those phone calls. Probably because it was always me talking about what I would do rather than them talking about what they would/will do, so I knew for a fact no animals were actually involved. I look at it like this: I would MUCH rather a guy call up a PSO and get sexual fulfillment from another consenting adult talking about dogs than have that guy go out and find a dog and/or non-consenting girl to actually act out his fantasy. I believe that because these guys are able to have gratification through taboo conversations they are far less likely to seek their gratification through ilegal actions. In that way I look at PSOs and cam girls who do taboo *role play* as providing an important public service and actually preventing a lot of these things from really happening. Again, *role playing* and talking about what you would do is VERY different from actually doing it, and I do not find mere fantasy conversations to be harmful.




Completely agreed CourtneyRaine.Wow.. I must say, I'm really, really pleasantly surprised there are people who share a lot of my thoughts on this.
I find this kind of stuff truly fascinating, but whenever I've aired my thoughts about this in the past, I've usually had people jump down my throat with all kinds of hate and abuse. - All because I don't condone punishing people for thinking. That is insane to me.
I know that there are many, many people who will maintain that giving actual LEGAL sexual satisfaction (such as role play - because it's still legal to do that in the privacy of our own homes I believe? At least where I live! Thank goodness!) to those with taboo fetishes is "just encouraging them", or even supporting them carrying it out in reality in some way. I couldn't disagree more with this...
If a human being - any human being, no matter what fetish they may have - is being constantly, relentlessly being told that they're fucked up scum, monstrous, and don't deserve any outlet for their sexual desires, and made to feel 100% trapped by way of their fetish, on top of being encouraged to plainly just STOP thinking about it, I believe that could actually increase the likelihood of them acting it out in real life, because they're already being treated and pretty much convicted and punished for a crime before they've even done it! It's like it just doesn't make a difference what they do - they're already criminals in the eyes of a huge portion of society for their feelings.
It is surely enough to drive even a person with the most vanilla fetish to complete madness if they are constantly outcast, guilty and terrified of themselves just because of some shit that they think. In honesty, when I get clients (or fuck it, anyone I know) come to me and disclose a very personal, very taboo fetish of theirs, I feel compelled to tell them "Dude, it's okay. You're acting like you've killed someone when all you've done is fantasize. You haven't hurt a single soul and you don't even want to. So lay back and enjoy your imagination: it's yours and nobody else has a right to police your brain".
Having "normal" (i.e. what society is comfortable talking about, which covers only a small amount of what people are actually turned on by - all us sex workers are aware of the diverse world of sexual fantasy) sexual fantasies about fucking a woman doesn't just automatically rule that "normal sexual fantasy" guy out of being a potential rapist, murderer, whatever.
It isn't just black and white. ~ You can have a guy who faps over regular tube-site porn who goes on to become a serial rapist, and you can have a 100% law-abiding paedophile who doesn't lay a finger on anyone.
Camchick - but what if after we've finished a regular cam session that just turns them on more to the point where they go out and rape the nearest redhead that resembles me? What then...? Just curious...
^ Whelp, of course I will never know what my customers do outside of out phone and cam sessions. However, what I do know is that most of my taboo guys are regular repeat customers. I am inclined to think that they keep coming back because I have fulfilled their fantasy. I doubt that if they went out and got a dog, underage girl, tied up their mother and locked her in the basement, etc. that they'd keep coming to pay me for the conversations about it if they were actually getting the real thing. Like I said I will never know for sure but based on the long term frequency of our role plays I truly believe that was enough for them.





That's the thing. There is never really anyway of actually knowing. In this industry it's best to NEVER lose sleep over it. You've done your job, you got them off and on to the next. 95% (and this is my own opinion) of callers/voyeurs are pure shit talkers. They merely get off on something and don't act on it. I think people tend to forget that when blood rushes to the head and genitals, things can get a little crazy. Once that nut is busted, those clients are more than likely moving on with their day just like you are. I consider myself to be a companion. Once they are done using my nut busting skills, they go back to reality and so do I. I don't think about them, and I don't care about what they do when we are off the phone. It's just a job to me. They aren't even thought of until they pick up the phone or log in to cam again. Now, that may seem a bit harsh to some but it is what it is. These clients have lives and wives, gfs, children, etc. They come to you to ensure that you help them with their fantasies and leave it between two consenting adults. I can't count how many clients I've had cum and then sheepishly mention that they aren't "really" into the things we just spoke about. I of course know that but it's good fun and you can't assume that these clients are actually doing the deed. Unless there's an actual crime being committed in front of your eyes, who's to say a crime is being committed at all even when the fun is done? It's best not to lose sleep over it and just do your job as a performer.





Does everyone here have really basic, straight sex fantasies? The things I fantasise about sexually would be illegal if they were conducted in real life. Although I fantasise about them, I would not want those things to happen to me or anyone else in real life and when I hear of those things happening, I am as shocked and against them as anyone else would be...they are purely fantasies!
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Oh I have committed unimaginable atrocities in the vast gutter that is my erotic imagination! XD
But desire to carry them out in real life? Nope. Not one iota.
Though take my pussy away, give me a penis instead, and you bet I'd be torn apart for having a rampant sexual imagination a looooooooong time ago (to the point where I might not even have the balls to admit I think about stuff)...
I also have some fetishes that are considered wrong and would definitely be illegal if I acted them out.
CamChick I see what you are saying about how the more you exposed you are to something sexual the more extreme you need it to be in order to receive the same pleasure. When I first saw porn at a young age 13+ years ago naked pictures could get me off. Now I really only like to get off watching gangbang, bukkake, bdsm, and other exteme varieties of pornography. Vanilla stuff just doesn't do it for me the same as it used to when I was younger and inexperienced. So I believe there is something to your point.
The difference is, watching or talking about extreme scenes with consenting adults is waaaaaay different from wanting to risk engaging in illegal and damaging behaviors with helpless victims. I think any sane person who is not a psychopath or sociopath, no matter how horny, knows where that line is and actually does not want to cross it. When I watch gangbang porn where the woman looks like she is practically being raped I think it's hot and I sometimes wish I was the one in that position. But, I would NEVER actually want a woman to actually be gang raped, nor would I like to ever be in that position. I like the *fantasy* of it and the *idea* of it, even though the reality of it is traumatic just thinking about. I think the same holds true for extreme fetishes as well- it's the *idea* of it that is enough. Just like I don't go out dressed like a hooker to truck stops getting gangbanged at glory holes- even though the *idea* of it is hot to me- I genuinely believe that beast, pedo, incest, etc. fans don't actually *want* to engage in those activities in the real world.





There are so many events in ones life that could've sparked interest. A lot of things that people were exposed to good or bad in their adolescent years are often the source of ones fantasy. For example, my husband's mother has huge tits. Although he hates her, there's a possibility that his connection through being breastfed resulted in him ONLY dating women with huge tits. See avatar please! LOL. Or perhaps, someone else could've had a very close and healthy loving relationship with their NaNa who was round, busty, and fed them sweets, fried chicken, and pies every time they visited her. This man gets off or only dates BIG women who are extremely sweet and affectionate and who stuff themselves with pies and cakes. I was flashed several times as a child. One incident I remember was in the first grade. It was the first time I'd seen a live penis. I screamed, ran away and told the teacher. It was frightening, but to this very day I'm fascinated with ejaculating penises or pretty peens in general. Anything can trigger a fantasy. It doesn't however have to be something sick, perverted, or even anything that happened as a child/teen.
No. Because again. Fantasy and reality is very separate. MOST people know how to separate that.
I have rape fantasys. It does not mean after the 5th roleplay I wanna walk down a dark alley and have John Mcsleezy rape my ass.
I'm SURE my castrate fantasy customers do not want to really chop off their own cock - because they are furiously jerking it in c2c lol.
That suggestion is the same as VIDEO GAMES CAUSES PEOPLE TO BE VIOLENT.
The people who want to do it are NOT fantasizing about it - they are out there already doing it.
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