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    Default How do you get a normal job?

    I've dance every since I was eighteen so I have very limited job experience (unless you want to count my high school jobs which have been six years in the pas). I want a normal job because I don't want to dance for the rest of my life and want to gain some experience / build networking opportunities for better and more stable positions.

    So how do you get a normal job? I have no college experience and I'm not okay with doing mindless jobs like cashiering at McDonalds or being a bagger at a grocery store.

    Please help. I want to stop dancing but I don't know how.

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    Reach out to anyone you know who might have a job lead (or could in the future) and has a good opinion of you. Networking is the best thing you can do for your employment situation.

    If you want to work in an office setting, brush up on basic Microsoft Office programs. Do a test online to get an idea of your WPM.

    Clean up your online presence if you have social media accounts.

    Would you be willing to invest in some professional licenses or certifications? Real estate license, insurance sales, certifications if you want to have a tech job, etc?

    Check out your local Craigslist for leads on entry-level positions, or even gigs to add to your resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuesdaymarie View Post
    Reach out to anyone you know who might have a job lead (or could in the future) and has a good opinion of you. Networking is the best thing you can do for your employment situation.

    If you want to work in an office setting, brush up on basic Microsoft Office programs. Do a test online to get an idea of your WPM.

    Clean up your online presence if you have social media accounts.

    Would you be willing to invest in some professional licenses or certifications? Real estate license, insurance sales, certifications if you want to have a tech job, etc?

    Check out your local Craigslist for leads on entry-level positions, or even gigs to add to your resume.
    I've been trying to do that. I'm really shy and I have a lot of anxiety so it makes it difficult for me to follow up with people. I have a few connections and I've been asking them over the last few months for job opportunities but I'm afraid that everything they have to offer is way above my skill level. Most of my friends are professionals with college degrees.

    I could probably do office work seeing as I'm proficient in Microsoft Office and type fairly quickly (over (90 WPM). The problem is that I have no office related experience or relevant skills to place on an application.

    My problem is I have NOTHING to put on a resume and almost all entry-level positions require some sort of resume. What do I do?

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    As much as you don't want to take on a "mindless" job, if your networking isn't bringing up any options, you're basically going to have to work your way up from a "mindless" retail or food service gig. Typing fast won't get you office work, you need something, and even retail/food service is better than nothing. You may also try getting with a temp agency, but I'm not sure how useful that will be since you still have no experience to draw on. The job market is tough right now and competition is fierce, so the only way you can get a "normal" but not "mindless" job with literally no experience is to know someone.

    You could also try getting in with an organization trough volunteering, especially with admin work. At the very least, it'll give you something to put on your resume and give you networking opportunities.

    I really recommend sitting down and thinking about what sort of career you actually want though, other than just looking for a "stable position." It's very likely that going to school will greatly help you and speed up the job search as you'll gain knowledge and skills, have access to internships (work experience), and get networking opportunities. It can be a long road otherwise without connections. Not that school guarantees a job, but it'll make you a far more hireable candidate.

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    What are your strengths and what do you think you'd enjoy doing?
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    Agree with Shanna. Also yes, work out what you would like to be doing, is a good idea-then try to gain some experience either by volunteering or applying to be the dogsbody at first in a related company perhaps, can work your way up.
    This probably isn't the sort of advice that 'should' be given, but I've blagged my way into jobs. I won't call it lies, just 'Constructive Exaggeration'
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    I'll sincerely try not to be pessimistic, but ... per ... some economic facts cannot be avoided.

    Right now, in the USA, 52% of unemployed workers have a high school education ( or less ), while only 32% of newly created jobs have skill requirements that can be met with a high school diploma. Arguably, the number of high school education level NEW workers entering the US workforce each year already exceeds the number of newly created jobs whose skill level requirements can be met with a high school diploma.

    To make matters worse, rising minimum wage levels, rising future ObamaCare related business taxes etc., are driving 'low skill level' job providing US employers to permanently eliminate jobs ... by increased automation ( automated check-outs, automated warehouse equipment, etc. ), by subcontracting ( temp worker services, business service companies, etc. ), and by outright outsourcing of certain types or work to lower cost foreign countries. And the easiest, least expensive, type of jobs for US employers to eliminate are 'low skill level' jobs.

    Thus as Shanna has already pointed out, the single best avenue toward landing ANY full time job that doesn't require education beyond a high school diploma in today's economy is a 'network' connection ... i.e. knowing somebody who operates / already works for a business that can provide you with an inside track toward a job opening.

    Without an inside track, attempting to compete head to head for available low skill level jobs will essentially place you in a situation where ...

    - thousands of other job candidates already have years of job experience to list on their resumes
    - new high school graduates lacking job experience ALSO lack 'negatives' that 'older' workers bring to the workplace ... expectation of pay raises / time off, knowledge / credibility necessary to file DOL and other claims against the employer, etc.

    With this in mind, hot girls in their 20's do have an advantage when seeking certain types of low skill level jobs ... among them waitress / barmaid, retail sales involving personal interaction etc.

    However, looking forward over the next 40+ years until you reach official retirement age, there aren't a lot of hopeful options that don't begin with 'higher education'. And even then, the amount of time and money which must be invested to obtain that 'higher education' is no longer guaranteed to provide an overall positive result in terms of total dollars spent versus total dollars earned after graduation.

    Personally speaking, even though I had already obtained a college degree and already worked as a Respiratory Therapist for several years before I started dancing, I chose to view exotic dancing as a 'serious professional' career. I worked my ass off while I was young enough and energetic enough to do so, I scrimped and saved, and I invested wisely. As a result, I was able to retire from dancing before age 40 with enough of a 'nest egg' built up to guarantee that I would never have to work a straight job again for the rest of my life.

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    If you don’t have a lot of connections then its going to be very hard to find something other than a position at McDonalds or the grocery store.

    If your truly serious about quitting then perhaps you should look into going back to school. I know its not easy but you can always just dance on the side until you get your certificate or degree.

    You could also try and see if you can get a waitressing position at the club.

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    Try to find an unpaid or paid internship and continue dancing to make money while you're interning. Lots of people can't afford to take unpaid internships, so you can use your dancing income to give you an advantage there.

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    How long are you willing to dance for, to invest in a job that you will enjoy? There are PLENTY of fields that have jobs available after completing a one or two year certification program, but it will require a strong mindful investment in your future.

    Here: http://www.campusexplorer.com/certificate-programs/ is a resource for fields that you can break into upon receiving certification.

    A lot of the girls are right in saying it is a poor job market right now, and it will serve you better to maintain a realistic outlook during your pursuits. However, don't let this discourage you from pursuing something you might really enjoy. It is also helpful to bear in mind that completing a certification program in this job market may not be enough to find a job. You'll need to network, pursue internships and reach out to anyone and everyone who will enable you to be better connected to your field. This means building rapport with your instructors, fellow students and potential colleagues. There are a lot of cheap e-books offering advice to people who want above average success in community college and certification programs. I have a friend who wrote and published one recently, you can contact me if you're interested in it.

    If you want to be finished stripping ASAP, you should try first to find a job bartending or waitressing, either at your club or at others. Right now, there are even many restaurants that aren't hiring servers without experience, so start with places where you know people and have connections. Serving/Bartending will be far more lucrative than minimum wage as a retail associate or fry cook.

    One last thing to consider is networking IN the club! Seriously -- when I quit stripping for a while, I got a job as a pharmacy technician through one of my regulars who was the president of a large chain grocery store/pharmacy. I was hired with absolutely no experience and didn't even obtain my certification until after I started working, simply because he said the word. He even raised the base pay for my district, so that I could live more comfortably working part time while I was still in college. Do NOT underestimate the power of a good regular... Most of them are probably more willing to help you than you might think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seatortuga View Post
    There are certificates you can get very quickly and will get you in the door for a real career. For example, in TX you can be a CNA in 3 weeks, through your local community college (Don't know where you live, every state is different) and they can start as high as 13-14 an hour in the big hospitals. Being a CNA is not glamourous at all, but many hospitals, with a contract, will help you go on and get your LVN or RN.
    Get on your local CC's website and there should be a tab for "certificate programs". That is a good place to start.
    This is very good advice. Working in the health industry = great benefits, too. Starting as a CNA and working your way up (or just building up job experience to do something else) is a great idea. Be sure to apply soon, as these programs tend to be very competitive (i.e. spots fill up within an hour of opening for the following school year).

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    As a country (assuming you're in the US), we've forgotten that you have to start from the bottom up in the job market. (Or be your own boss). So that means volunteering, which leads to networking, which leads to an entry level position (like a receptionist), which leads to advancement in that field over the years due to further networking.

    Once college degrees were pushed (so the US gov & banks could make a huuuuuuge profit), the lie out there was that all you needed was a degree. That has now backfired because its just not true at all. Networking. That is the key. Anyone can do it, but it takes time to build up. Start with volunteering and internships (of which most are unpaid). Go in and talk to a company you'd ideally love to work for and appear motivated & put together. Ask for an internship/volunteer work. If its a trade job, ask them to "assist" or "apprentice for free" with them. I have several friends who have done this which ended up leading to their dream jobs.

    The most cost-effective and logical thing to do would be to dance at night and volunteer/intern in the day time. If you end up liking the industry/career path you are volunteering/interning for, go to a community college and get a certificate or AA in it (unless you don't really need a degree at all for which, which is the case with many trades) in your spare time. Take classes online through the community college and maybe try to pile them all into 1 or 2 days so you can still intern. If its something like nursing or engineering, you'll need a bachelors degree, but otherwise don't worry about a bachelors degree unless you really want one and/or have the extra money to pay for it. Continue to volunteer/intern AND dance while going to school (trust me, its not as hard as it seems), and snatch up the first entry level job (receptionist, assistant, etc) in your industry of choice that piques your interest. Continue making contacts, graduate, continue making contacts some more, move up the ladder every 3-7 years, make more contacts, finally you'll have the job of your dreams. Hard work, networking, and time. Quit dancing once you have a stable job if you don't want to do it anymore.

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    ^ Volunteering is a great suggestion too.

    This thread has relevant information: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...hrough-College

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    I'd love to hear what you decide to do, lighthouse! Keep us posted, please!

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    I put in some applications for some volunteer work and got an email back from one of the gigs. Unfortunately it's a temporary event.

    How do I go about interning? I'd rather do an unpaid internship and meet people than try to start at the lowest of lows at some minimum wage crap job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lighthouse View Post
    I put in some applications for some volunteer work and got an email back from one of the gigs. Unfortunately it's a temporary event.
    Don't let that discourage you. If you impress the coordinators, they'll be more likely to take you on for other events or perhaps even paid work. Besides, it's still something good and current to put on your resume.

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    How do I go about interning? I'd rather do an unpaid internship and meet people than try to start at the lowest of lows at some minimum wage crap job.
    Interning can be tricky to do without being a current student, especially without any experience. The job market is tough, so lots of people with work experience are thrnif to internships as a way to get their foot in the door since their job hunts aren't coming up with much.

    If you're not going to go to school (and even if you are), you need to figure out what sort of industry you'd like a career in and then research companies with offices in your area. Most have career pages on their websites that mention internships if they offer any. The most common way of getting an internship is via schooling though, since even if you have no practical experience in the field, you at least have a knowledge base. You could also look into professional associations for whatever industry you settle on. They often have meetings, networking opportunities, and even job/internship postings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lighthouse View Post
    I put in some applications for some volunteer work and got an email back from one of the gigs. Unfortunately it's a temporary event.

    How do I go about interning? I'd rather do an unpaid internship and meet people than try to start at the lowest of lows at some minimum wage crap job.
    Volunteering has actually become a very weird thing. I think its because laws changed or something, so they have to be careful about who they hire to volunteer, and they have to actually have work for you to do or theres no sense in even taking a volunteer. That being said, I think its still easier to land a volunteer position than it is to land an unpaid internship because internships are still competitive. Like the person above said, look into what you want to, seek out local companies/places, figure out who the owner or hiring director is, and then contact them directly and say you're very interest. Seem really motivated, creative, and eager to learn.

    After that, its just luck of the draw because I have no idea how you're supposed to follow that up. You could be persistent if they turn you down right away, but that might annoy them and make them never take you on board (though I still think its your best option). On the other hand, you could be persistent, and they may end up taking that as extreme motivation, which employers tend to love.

    Basically, to hunt for an internship/volunteer work, it will take the same effort as job hunting. Its essentially landing an unpaid, temporary job.

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    Consider doing Temp work to get more experience.
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    Volunteering is insane at the current moment. The shitty economy has created a hilariously outlandish environment where unpaid volunteers are being rigorously interviewed, asked for cover letters, asked for resumes, and.... wait for it...... being required to have extensive experience. Volunteer organizations realize that tons of ultra-qualified people are out of work and want to remain current... so they can essentially hire a superb workforce for free. And yeah, things are in their favor.

    Nothing hurts more than being rejected from an unpaid position at an organization you truly care about just because there are fancier applicants.
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    I dont know how these things do nowadays, but what does the temp agency field look like?

    Thats how I got my start, well...after I got out the army anyway. They just gave me a bunch of tests to figure out what Im capable of, and sent me out on jobs to fit that. Some jobs were short term, like only a day..and others were a couple weeks... When I was ready for it, I let them know I wanted to be set up in some long term positions so they did, and that company ended up hiring me as a permanent employee... Was an awesome job too.
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    ^Much like with volunteering, even temp work now expects some experience and not just being able to pass typing tests and such. It's still worth getting in touch with a few agencies and giving it a shot, but it's not as easy of a start as it used to be.

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    Everything changes so much... Yeah, when I did it, this was like 15 yrs ago (like, back in the dark ages it feels like now )

    It was pretty intensive still from what I recall...it was 2 days of testing, with typing skills and Office Suite comprehension. But yeah, back then it was a good way to get a start in any job, cause usually for office jobs, it was the crap grunt work...like data entry, filing, answering phones (which I refused to do...it was my only limit lol) But makes sense...with the job market the way it is now, Im sure temp jobs are filled to capacity so they can be more selective and expect more from who they hire.
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    Why does it have to be so damn hard to volunteer even? This economy and world is getting ridiculous and forcing me to stay dancing for longer than id like to...

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    i would really look into the those short certifiate programs well before getting into them. i have my CNA, and phlebotomy certificates, and was unable to find a job in the latter because it is flooded and they only take those with experience..CNA is also flooded i'd say, because everyone else is looking for a quick degree with maximum earnings as well (plus it is HARD, very draining work and you aren't paid well)..and to earn anything even comparable to dancing you'd have to go back to school for nursing. you can add on certificates to you LNA but i'd tried it and wasnt too successful. not trying to be pessimistic, just my experience. i'd say to find a good job that isn't fast food, etc. you're going to have to network or go back to school. this economy is tough and competition is fierce. without much experience others will be chosen first usually, and it does suck. i myself am trying to work out some way to support myself after dancing so good luck!!

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    It's a pretty crazy job market right now, for sure! Honestly, there are so many opportunities for current students to gain experience that it might be worth taking a short or part-time program so you can take advantage of them and gain some skills and knowledge to transition out of stripping.

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