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    Default How many of you get 1099s? Risk for later jobs?

    I'm curious as to how many clubs are issuing 1099s now... I had heard that it was now mandatory for strip clubs to do so, but my dancer friends have reported back "negative, ghostrider" to "are they actually doing it".

    I'm really wanting to go back to the business, but not if it's going to be risky later on for state licensure. I've read up on every post I can find here (mainly Melonie and Laurisa's), and the arguments are strong for both sides.
    - According to some, if you don't use stripping for a credit application, don't get a club issued 1099 and file your own taxes without naming the club directly (i.e., I'd file under "freelance model" since I legitimately do model otherwise), and don't make repeated bank deposits of checks, you're pretty safe, aside from getting caught up in a raid. According to others, you will be found out somehow no matter what.
    - On the issue of states that issue licenses, my state does, but it is totally sealed except for a court order, and a search only reveals that you were issued a general business license, along with 1000 other people that month.

    Anyone have experience with this? Especially anyone licensed with a medical board?

    ...... I find it absolutely ridiculous I have to be concerned about this - I have a friend who has a felony for sale of narcotics, and is still planning on med school... on a lawyer's advice of "It'll be so long ago, they won't care about it"... sheesh.

    Also, sorry if I'm beating a dead horse

    Edit: Directed straight at Melonie, did you get in trouble for "conduct" because it was WHILE you held the license? All the stories I find about teachers and nurses are also that they got in trouble because they were either actively in sex work, or they had left trails online so they were still technically in it as far as the board was concerned... Would this be the same if, in my case, the dancing was 5 years in the past and before a license?
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    Default Re: How many of you get 1099s? Risk for later jobs?

    Issuance of 1099's by all businesses that pay more than a few hundred dollars per year to the same contractor is a provision of the ObamaCare law. In 2012 compliance with that provision was 'waived' regarding mandatory issuance of 1099's for payments made in 2011. However, to the best of my knowledge, that 'waiver' has not been extended. Thus it's very likely that 1099's for moneys paid out in 2012 by strip clubs and webcam hosts will start showing up in the mailboxes of dancers and camgirls in early March.

    Issuance of a 1099 can create a 'paper trail' of work in the adult entertainment industry. Thus, on the surface, on the payer side it matters whether the name listed on the 1099 is well known ( i.e. Hustler, Scores, StreaMates etc. ) or rather obscure. On the recipient side, it matters whether the name listed is the dancer / camgirl's real name ( and SS# ) or the name of a corporation ( and EI # ) owned by the dancer / camgirl.

    The likelihood that 1099's will be a real factor to a potential straight job employer is directly related to the 'sensitivity' of the position being sought ... thus the thoroughness of the background check performed. 'Standard' background checks will NOT turn up 1099 information, or any detailed tax information of any form. 'In Depth' background checks, accompanied by a requirement that the applicant sign a 4506 IRS information release form, MAY turn up 1099 information. The 'May' is related to linkage factors that can be gleaned from the 1040 tax return.

    Organizations that perform 'In Depth' background checks do include state professional licensing boards. And those state professional licensing boards are free to establish their own standards, and assess penalties for failure to hold to those standards. In New York at least, the state professional licensing board considers work in the adult entertainment industry to be 'unprofessional conduct' ... for which a licensed professional can be reprimanded, fined, cited, or even sentenced to 'community service'. However, given that adult entertainment work is legal, the state professional licensing board cannot deny / revoke a professional license for this reason. They can however levee big fines, place a citation letter spelling out the person's past adult entertainment industry work history in the person's professional license file for any prospective employer to immediately see, etc.

    In regard to the direct question, I received my 'unprofessional conduct' citation for adult industry work which in no way overlapped with work involving my professional license. Also, I would speculate that if I had formed my out-of-state S-Corp sooner, thus the 'In Depth' background check in my name would only have turned up the fact that I worked for an obscure company ( as opposed to working for several 'high profile' adult businesses ), I would never have been cited.
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    Default Re: How many of you get 1099s? Risk for later jobs?

    Thanks for your response, I really appreciate your time in typing all that out!

    So what I'm gleaning is that the best way to cover your tracks is to A) hope the club files under an ambiguous name to begin with and B) file an out-of-state S-corp and have the 1099 made out to that... in effect, creating a wall. The investigator would then see on my 1040 that I received pay from the S-corp and it stops there, yes? (Of course, remembering that they can attempt to Google my corp) Would I need to file the corp before even starting to dance, or can I just transfer to that mid-year as long as it's before 1099s are issued? And is the 4506 a blatant, glaring separate form with "IRS" stamped on it, or is it something that can be worked into fine print legalese at the bottom of an application?

    Also, I remember reading that you were reprimanded not because it overlapped with your work but just because you held the license while doing it... I think in one post you stated you were not even working in the field and it was just because you had a license that they were upset. That's what I meant by that - most of the state boards I've looked at restrict the "unprofessional conduct" clause to something occurring while licensed, whether or not it happens in the workplace/in connection with it, but not concerning anything before licensure.

    I'm hoping I would not have as much trouble, if the dancing was done 5 years in the past and not during grad school/clinicals/residency.

    I apologize if I seem like a creepy creeper for knowing all your dealings; I've read every post I can find about this on here and you are the authority it seems -bows-
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    Default Re: How many of you get 1099s? Risk for later jobs?

    Unless you have already gone through the motions of establishing an LLC or S-Corp, the very first night that you work in a club or on a webcam host money will start being tracked toward a 1099 made out in your real name with your personal SS #. Once that money is actually paid to you, there is no way for the club or webcam host to 'go back' and alter the payee's tax information. While it may be possible to change the payee info to an S-Corp or LLC at a later date, this will merely result in the club or webcam host having to issue two 1099's that year.

    Yes the IRS form 4506 is glaringly separate. But if your state's professional licensing board hands the form to you as a condition of applying for a professional license, refusing to sign it is not an option.

    As to 'prior activities', I would tend to agree with your assessment that in my particular case it involved adult industry work while I already held my professional license ... even though I was 100% working in the adult entertainment field and doing zero work for which that professional license was a requirement. And indeed my issue turned up at the point of renewing my license. However, that does not mean that a background check performed during an initial professional license application won't result in negative repurcussions if a history of adult industry work is discovered. The 'kicker' of course is the professional licensing board's interpretation that you LIED on your professional license application by not including your previous adult industry work history on the application form - which is grounds for denial of that professional license. You can avoid this by listing your adult industry work history, but then any potential straight job employer who checks your professional license file will also see that prior adult industry work history.

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    Default Re: How many of you get 1099s? Risk for later jobs?

    I figured - I was mostly asking so I could check right now what boards or jobs pertaining to my BS would ask for it. If it was workable into fine print they could easily lie (though I guess they could now too).

    I agree it shouldn't matter... Alas, close minded people. I don't think it would be considered lying - I think RTs have a different app format than docs. Docs just ask for clinicals, internships/residencies and med school verification. Nothing about undergrad or non-med employment history. The only other questions are direct "have you been convicted of a crime" deals. Unless they expect me, without being asked, to write and attach a separate letter informing them about something they never asked about in case it would offend them... Ugh. You never know who might be in charge of your app and their views :/

    Thanks again!
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