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    Question Computer hardware / upload speeds? SM front page girls

    I want to find out what does it take to get to the front page top row of Streamate? What type of computer hardware / Processor and upload speeds does it take to make it to the top? I upgraded my computer to a AMD phenom x4 910 2.60 ghz quad core, 2 gigs of ram new A6VMX foxconn motherboard, usb 3.0 pcie card, Nvidia GeForce GT520 video card with 3 gigs onboard ram, Using a HD Microsoft lifecam Studio web cam. Running a stripped down version of windows xp. I also upgraded my internet to the highest cable had to offer DOCSIS 3 modem running at 50.0 mbps Download an 6.0 mbps Upload With a 10/100/1000 mbps router and ethernet card wired. With all this i still only make it to the bottom of the front page sometimes. I know i could improve my pc specs more and plan on it but im trying to figure out what to shoot for. I would like to hear from some top front page Sm girls or some people who know what kind of hardware and money it takes to get to the top.

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    Im on the front page and have been there awhile...on the 1st-4th row depending who else is on..
    I got there with a i3, upload 30 download around 6....now I have an i7 and it hasnt really helped my placement much...but has enabled me to do gold shows without my computer crashing lol
    You have to remember that placement is also effected by things such as consistency, hours worked, ratings, and using sound not just harware/internet speeds....earnings may play into placement and while I wont talk about my earnings here I can tell you there are girls with higher placement that make less than me and girls with lower placement that make more than me.
    Also remember if guys have you favorited you will be on the first page for them above the 'top girls' and guys sometimes use the geo filter so if the filter out everything but north america bam you just went up 5 rows for them....dont worry about your placement to much...worry about your $$$, consistency, and working hard..and the placement will come.

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    Thanks so much, Ms.B!


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    I'm in the top 2 rows (normally row 1). I run an i5 desktop with a 1GB graphics card, 8GB RAM. I only have 1.2 upload!!! MY computer is about 18 months old now and it feels in need of an upgrade (sometimes the encoder crashes now).
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    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    I am in the middle-bottom rows to the bottom rows of the front page usually. I recently moved to a place that has epic internet upload and download speeds and upgraded the ram on my already high-end computer. I was like a kid on Christmas with excitment to see how it would improve my placement. I was beyond pissed to find out that it made almost ZERO difference in my placement. In fact, I found through experimentation that if I set my encoder back to 15 frames a second then my placement will end up in the middle-bottom of the page. If I set my encoder to the 27 frames a second that Streamate recommends that I am IN THE BOTTOM ROW.

    I fucking MOVED cities and gave up my apartment beause people in the forums told me that I needed to 'suck it up' and 'invest in my business'. What a slap in the face at the end of it all to find out that it was essentially all for nothing.

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    Cassie, everything you mentioned looks fine. Now you just need the rest of the variables in place. I did want to mention that you can do better than the Lifecam, but that might just be my opinion. The girls I see with better quality streams (at least the ones I've spoken to) are using Logitech or camcorder.

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    Put in time, dedication, consistency and effort and see where that gets you... then try other things out.
    Don't do what me and justanothercamgirl did unless you KNOW 100% that it'll make a difference.

    I've been #1 with 0.60 mbps, and a laptop I bought in 2007 for £250.
    I've been 2nd page with a slightly higher internet speed and my i7.

    Some girls obsess over upgrading their tech when it might be their upload speed at fault.
    Some girls obsess over upgrading their upload speed when it might be their tech at fault.
    Some girls obsess over upgrading their makeup, costume sets, and toy collection, when it might be the amount of time they spend online.
    Some girls obsess over all the above - have them all nailed - and don't pay any mind to their attitude.

    Let us say there's a woman who has 1st page placement, fantastic quality stream, great range of outfits, high-end tech... and she spends half her time out of view, cussing out her audience, complaining that good placement is only given to studio girls and generally showing off a terrible attitude. < The attitude won't see her placement shift! No amount of upgrading anything else will help her! She is stuck in her placement until she "upgrades" her working mentality!

    Either that, or she maxes it out by advertising it persistently and with dedication through external sites and brings in her own traffic comprised of guys with a fetish for that particular attitude...


    In my experience, what got me to #1 is (in no particular order!)... - Being talkative, smiling often, exuding a positive attitude (thanking, being grateful), having decent quality stream, (which you can check for yourself if you open up the URL of your stream in a separate tab as you're streaming to check it over), using the encoder, and consistently logging on.

    There is one girl on SM whose hustle is like nothing I've ever seen before... - she barely acknowledges her audience; she spends most of her time crafting (that's right, making crafts!) in free chat; she very well-known for turning down exclusives and privates... WHY? Because she makes a mint off her cool, nonchalant attitude, she gives off the attitude that she doesn't care about the money, and she slays her audience with it by having them on the edge of their seats wondering when her next GOLD show will be so they can throw their cash at her!

    She pretty much proves with her hustle that you don't need to flash constantly, beg for tips, be on the edge of your seat waiting for the next private / exclusive. Just do your own thing!




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    Yeah, that's what I meant by "the rest of the variables". Giving up the voyeur sleep shows in exchange for actually interacting with customers is going to increase your placement far more than any piece of computer equipment, Cassie.

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    High five


    Quote Originally Posted by incantatious View Post
    put in time, dedication, consistency and effort and see where that gets you... then try other things out.
    Don't do what me and justanothercamgirl did unless you know 100% that it'll make a difference.

    I've been #1 with 0.60 mbps, and a laptop i bought in 2007 for £250.
    I've been 2nd page with a slightly higher internet speed and my i7.

    Some girls obsess over upgrading their tech when it might be their upload speed at fault.
    Some girls obsess over upgrading their upload speed when it might be their tech at fault.
    Some girls obsess over upgrading their makeup, costume sets, and toy collection, when it might be the amount of time they spend online.
    Some girls obsess over all the above - have them all nailed - and don't pay any mind to their attitude.

    Let us say there's a woman who has 1st page placement, fantastic quality stream, great range of outfits, high-end tech... And she spends half her time out of view, cussing out her audience, complaining that good placement is only given to studio girls and generally showing off a terrible attitude. < the attitude won't see her placement shift! No amount of upgrading anything else will help her! She is stuck in her placement until she "upgrades" her working mentality!

    Either that, or she maxes it out by advertising it persistently and with dedication through external sites and brings in her own traffic comprised of guys with a fetish for that particular attitude...


    In my experience, what got me to #1 is (in no particular order!)... - being talkative, smiling often, exuding a positive attitude (thanking, being grateful), having decent quality stream, (which you can check for yourself if you open up the url of your stream in a separate tab as you're streaming to check it over), using the encoder, and consistently logging on.

    There is one girl on sm whose hustle is like nothing i've ever seen before... - she barely acknowledges her audience; she spends most of her time crafting (that's right, making crafts!) in free chat; she very well-known for turning down exclusives and privates... Why? Because she makes a mint off her cool, nonchalant attitude, she gives off the attitude that she doesn't care about the money, and she slays her audience with it by having them on the edge of their seats wondering when her next gold show will be so they can throw their cash at her!

    She pretty much proves with her hustle that you don't need to flash constantly, beg for tips, be on the edge of your seat waiting for the next private / exclusive. just do your own thing!

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    Default Re: Computer hardware / upload speeds? SM front page girls

    I really think getting into the top rows has less to do with equipment and like Jess said, "other variables" such as how much you are making, ratings, attitude, etc.

    Good luck!
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    Top placement on SM is always a good thing, but really the guys will find you no matter what. I am a BBW so I know already that my placement cannot compete with the other top models on SM>I have been online for 3 months so far, use HD encoder have 3mbps upload 20 download and using an old as hell windows vista 1.6ghz and 1g ram. Even with an old pc I am always on the first row in the BBW category, might as well not even try to see where I am at in any other category. I like to know where I am at and make it better if I have to. When I stream I look up cammodels.com and go to my category, find myself and if its not too good, I will see if any bbw are doing a gold show, if not I start one to get better placement. Even if I dont run the gold show I get a lot more new faces peeking in my chat room and those people wind up taking me private, and the more guests in party chat at a time the higher your placement. Your pc setup should be just fine just keep using encoder and HQ audio, then when you see that many ppl are in your party chat and others are logging on in guest area, try to send them a message in guest area saying you are in a show to plz join, that may get more guests in party and boost your placement.

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    Cassie - it sounds like you have a great set up, and your time and energy would now be better used in trying to get those "other variables" up and running! Time, consistency, hustle, etc.

    I'm usually in row 2-3 on the front page, and my computer is waaaaay worse than yours!!

    It's a custom build, but old - probably around 3-4years old. I thiiiink that it is a quad core, but I didn't build it, so I'm not 100%. My upload is around 2.5.

    I do want to upgrade, but it is because this is starting to die under the weight of everything I do, and I want to be able to go back to running camtasia to record my shows, and running more programms at the same time, I don't expect it to affect my placement at all.

    The things that I have found to affect placement the most are:
    - being consistently online, and just time online in general
    - having the encoder running
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    Cassie I'm not on all the time & I don't go into rooms a whole lot, but when I do see you on, you're doing a lot of goldshows w/o a countdown (it's easy to tell b/c those shows usually have no audio icon). I've even seen your goldshow end & then you were in free chat sleeping for over an hour. I only checked back b/c I found it amazing that they hadn't cut your feed. I wouldn't mention this if you hadn't previously offered up your cam name in the public area & weren't asking for input.

    Before assuming your equipment needs to be upgraded & asking for the advice of other models about how to become a top row model, and before asking people to invest their time & energy into helping you, maybe you could try to do what the other top row models do. SM is not going to promote you to top status when you're taking up so much bandwidth for so little return. I don't mean any offense by this, but I was honestly quite surprised you didn't see that as one of your main obstacles to better placement. Voyeur shows have their place, but consider your income & how you're utilizing SM's bandwidth before you wonder too much about why you're not higher up.

    If you're asking this preemptively b/c you plan on changing your hustle, I apologize. I just find this thread kind of amazing. Once you've started doing other things to promote yourself in free chat and/or gold show countdowns, maybe you'll have a better idea of what kinds of changes you might need to make in order to gain better placement. My educated guess is it has very little or nothing to do with your tech.
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    Edit to add: I can't see GR models (no customer acct) and, as I've said, I don't view other models often. So if I have old info b/c you've moved on to something different, disregard everything I've said. I wanted to add that to be fair.

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    In my three years on SM, all I can tell you is that the number of people in your room and the amount you're making consistently is what effects your placement.

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    Time, patience, hustle, good equipment and internet speed. This question should have been search function easily.

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