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    So...went to the Spearmint Rhino while in Vegas with my hubby about two weeks ago. (I posted before our trip here: ) I was so looking forward to a night of sexy fun with my husband, but it didn’t end up being that way at all, and I’m trying to figure out if this was just an off night or what.

    We walked in, and they sat us in a corner booth where we couldn’t see the main stage, which kinda sucked, but whatever. We were approached in less than five minutes by three girls—two who came up together, which seemed a little weird to me (one for my husband and one for me, I guess?), and another who asked if we wanted a dance without so much as a smile. I politely explained that we’d just arrived and wanted to relax & have a few drinks first. I felt like I needed a minimum of two drinks and 30 minutes to relax, take it all in, and get my bearings a little. So, we order a drink, and it’s about this time that my husband & I start realizing we are the only people there who are not getting a dance out on the floor. Literally, the ONLY ONES THERE! It automatically made me feel awkward and uncomfortable, like we were doing something wrong to just want to chill, drink, watch (and of course tip), and get comfortable before waving someone over to join us, with the idea that if all went well we could move to the VIP room.

    Another put-off was that the guys at all the tables around us were being REALLY aggressive and rough with the girls—swinging them around, putting their legs up on their shoulders, dipping them so low that sometimes they actually fell over, etc.—stuff I totally wouldn’t have thought would be OK with the bouncers for a floor dance. It was sloppy-looking, and it felt more like we were at a late-night fraternity party than a strip club.

    Anyway, I was just wondering...

    1) Is this kind of stuff typical? I’ve been to a SC before but in a different setting—with a big group of people, not just my husband & me, and it was nothing like this. The Spearmint Rhino is supposed to be one of the “classier” clubs in Vegas, and yet it felt more like a frat house than a strip club. Are guys usually so rough with the girls out on the floor, and everyone just looks the other way? Or did we just happen to be there on an extremely rowdy night?

    2) Is it OK to take some time to drink, watch, tip, etc. without having someone join you? I’ve never felt like I was doing something wrong more in my entire life than at the Rhino! If it is OK to take some time to get comfortable, then how do I make it clear that I want/need some time to enjoy some liquid courage and soak everything in before asking someone to join us?

    My hubby & I had both been fantasizing about this awesome night for so long, and I was really disappointed that it didn’t turn out even remotely as fun as I’d expected. We would've had more fun continuing our winning streak at the blackjack tables. We’re thinking of venturing out to a club around town on some random night, but I don’t want a repeat experience of Vegas. Any advice?

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorVegas View Post
    1) Is this kind of stuff typical? I’ve been to a SC before but in a different setting—with a big group of people, not just my husband & me, and it was nothing like this. The Spearmint Rhino is supposed to be one of the “classier” clubs in Vegas, and yet it felt more like a frat house than a strip club. Are guys usually so rough with the girls out on the floor, and everyone just looks the other way? Or did we just happen to be there on an extremely rowdy night?
    No it is not typical. Customs vary dramatically from one region to another, but in most areas contact on the floor is more limited and guys swinging girls around by the legs is certainly not the norm - LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorVegas View Post
    2) Is it OK to take some time to drink, watch, tip, etc. without having someone join you? I’ve never felt like I was doing something wrong more in my entire life than at the Rhino! If it is OK to take some time to get comfortable, then how do I make it clear that I want/need some time to enjoy some liquid courage and soak everything in before asking someone to join us?
    Of course it is. You are the customer and the money in your pocket is yours to spend as you see fit. When you are in a strip club, you need to control your own experience and stop worrying about what other customers are doing with the girls. Succumbing to real or perceived pressure is the quickest way to spending your money on services/girls that you do not want.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorVegas View Post
    My hubby & I had both been fantasizing about this awesome night for so long, and I was really disappointed that it didn’t turn out even remotely as fun as I’d expected. We would've had more fun continuing our winning streak at the blackjack tables. We’re thinking of venturing out to a club around town on some random night, but I don’t want a repeat experience of Vegas. Any advice?
    My suggestion is that you visit a club closer to where you live rather than one in Vegas. I think that you will find your local club(s) to be a bit more your speed.
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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    I was recently at the Rhino and, yes, it's gotten MUCH rowdier. There was also a huge conference in town and many of the other patrons were young, foreign and very, very aggressive. The girls were also allowing much more on the floor than I'm used to seeing - and I live in a city where A LOT goes on. I guess when there's that much money, it becomes a feeding frenzy for both customer and dancer.

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Btw, regarding SR Vegas, does anyone know if the girls get to keep any of the bottle service $$ in VIP? Or do they just get the full $400 that gets handed to them prior to going in?

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    I wish that I had seen your first post because I would have warned you against the SRVegas for the very reasons that you've posted about. I would have recommended Olympic Garden because it's very couples friendly, and there is a website (vegas-after-dark.com) where you can communicate directly with the staff there and set up a special night in advance.
    Maybe next time.

    @Kessler- knowing that it's a Rhino I seriously doubt that the dancers get to keep 100% of anything. But maybe a dancer from there will post here and prove me wrong.

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Lo, I think there's a $80 fee to work and then they get to keep what's handed to them directly by the customer as he walks in? After that, there's a bottle fee, but I'm thinking the club does indeed keep all of that since it's pretty much a 50/50 split (provided the dancer really does get to keep everything she's handed to initially).

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    I've never been to SR-LV. It seems to me that hubby and you got off to a bad start by not being seated where you liked. One of you should have spoken up, stating preference to the host for seating with a better stage view.

    I'm surmising that on the floor dances are the least expensive option, and thus popular with a lot of customers. In that case, seating by the bar may be a good alternative. Better luck next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    One of you should have spoken up, stating preference to the host for seating with a better stage view.
    The only way they would get seated where they want is if they slip the host a large tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kessler View Post
    Btw, regarding SR Vegas, does anyone know if the girls get to keep any of the bottle service $$ in VIP? Or do they just get the full $400 that gets handed to them prior to going in?
    We keep the whole $400.

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    Good to know. I'd rather my $$ go to the girl directly than the club. Thx JoJo.

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Yes we keep the whole 400 but it is customary for some of us to tip the bouncers ten percent of that or if they helped us get the customer then I tip twenty percent. We don't get anything for liquor sales at all whatsoever. Also someone mentioned the house fee being 80 dollars which is right unless you don't go on stage , then house fee is 135

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Thanks, Magggs - that helps me figure out how to spend. I like the privacy of the bottle rooms, but frankly, if I'm gonna spend, I'd rather spend on the girl, not the club. If she got a cut of the liquor sales, then it'd be a different story. But if the clubs keeps all of that, then I'll probably forgo that next time.

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Sounds like its your own fault that you didnt have fun, tbh.

    My first sc was the rhino few monthes ago and while its def way more touchy than what seems to be the norm in this forum, the things youre complaining about are your own doing.

    1- noone came and blamed you for wanting to take your time and have drinks. You for some reason felt self conscious about it, which is a result of being too nervous yourselves. Its not like any of the customers care what you do.
    its their job to come ask for dances and theyll do it all the time, just say no and wait until you want one.

    2- i doubt the guys were swinging girls by their legs or being rough. Some girls allow more touching and are flexible with their dances. You make it sound like the girls were being abused while in reality theyre completely in control.

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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    ^ Dude, no offense, but SR a few months ago is VERY, VERY different from SR a few weeks ago. I've been there several times in the last few years and I've never seen it as crowded or rowdy as it was this past month. When the dancer I was with went to freshen up, I was approached every 15-30 seconds. After 6 dancers in the first few minutes, I started counting in between approaches. In 5 minutes, I was approached by 12 girls.

    It's impossible to do anything when you're getting approached that often. Especially when so many of them mutter under their breath, give you dirty looks, tell you to fuck off when you politely say you're waiting for another dancer who's in the bathroom. I think only 2 dancers were gracious about it. Read my past posts - I don't mind getting approached at all. It's part of the game and I enjoy it. But when it's that relentless, it fucking sucks. For the first time, I wasn't having any fun... at least until VIP

    And yes, it was pretty damn rowdy. I saw multiple guys pick up girls and swing them around in a bear hug. I saw girls hanging off guys' waists, half-lying on the floor, grinding at weird angles. I saw a guy pick a girl up and drop her on his lap. Shit that would never play at other times became the norm that night. Why? Because there were just too many people for the bouncers to control - and a lot of them were foreign, drunk and spending A LOT so the dancers tolerated more than usual. Let's put it this way: at around 4am, the bouncer told me the VIP bottle rooms had a 1-2 hour wait. The line for the normal VIP rooms, just to sit on the couches, were 5 people deep. Not just 1 VIP room. ALL of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kessler View Post
    And yes, it was pretty damn rowdy. I saw multiple guys pick up girls and swing them around in a bear hug. I saw girls hanging off guys' waists, half-lying on the floor, grinding at weird angles. I saw a guy pick a girl up and drop her on his lap. Shit that would never play at other times became the norm that night. Why? Because there were just too many people for the bouncers to control - and a lot of them were foreign, drunk and spending A LOT so the dancers tolerated more than usual. Let's put it this way: at around 4am, the bouncer told me the VIP bottle rooms had a 1-2 hour wait. The line for the normal VIP rooms, just to sit on the couches, were 5 people deep. Not just 1 VIP room. ALL of them.
    I can say with certainty that I hope never to experience a night like that in any club I frequent.
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    Default Re: Is this normal? Follow-up from the "couple headed to Las Vegas"...

    Times have changed I guess....

    Been to SR Vegas many times. Probably about 20 months since the last time though.

    Dances on the floor were uncommon. Never saw the rowdy behavior referenced.

    Most opted for the 3 for $100. I only did that a couple of times. I normally did the 1/2 hr VIP as I would have an "appointment" with a girl that I knew. Lot more privacy.

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